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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
June 20 2012 10:55 GMT
#12861
Not all spells could be stolen in dota 1, probably similar limitations... Morph was one such spell that could not be stolen.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 20 2012 10:57 GMT
#12862
Currently all can be stolen (bug ) and some just crash the game I tried looking for a dota1 list but couldn't find :/
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
June 20 2012 10:59 GMT
#12863
On June 20 2012 19:49 Dattish wrote:
I wonder if you can steal morph, and if so, if the morphed stats stays.

It can, it's been tested.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 11:46:12
June 20 2012 11:29 GMT
#12864
Just finished reading through the update:

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/06/dota-2-19th-june/

I think it would be cool if someone could prepare the TL logos for the base so we could start using it once the update goes live. Anyone with the necessary graphical skills? Maybe make a small contest?
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
June 20 2012 11:57 GMT
#12865
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 12:03:43
June 20 2012 12:03 GMT
#12866
~3.70 euros, seems nice.
WriterXiao8~~
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
June 20 2012 12:16 GMT
#12867
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


congrats and welcome to the club!
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
June 20 2012 12:19 GMT
#12868
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


You've played 1920 hours!? Jesus christ man take a break O_O
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 13:33:47
June 20 2012 12:19 GMT
#12869
Dota 2...with the wc3 engine =)
http://www.vn-zoom.com/f354/tong-hop-trai-nghiem-dota2-tren-warcraft-dota-1881169.html
Pretty sick work.

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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 20 2012 12:21 GMT
#12870
yo so i heard dota is the real life! i suspected that since long time ago!!!

+ Show Spoiler +
singsing is streaming!!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 12:36:50
June 20 2012 12:31 GMT
#12871
Rubick is still stupid imo

Fade Bolt mana cost is high but the spell is still incredibly powerfull
Spellsteal speaks for itself
Displacement spell which can go over cliffs if need be
and an aoe 20% spell damage reduction, more then half a hood aoe for your team which stacks afaik.
WriterXiao8~~
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
June 20 2012 12:53 GMT
#12872
On June 20 2012 21:19 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


You've played 1920 hours!? Jesus christ man take a break O_O


Ugh sorry, duno why I wrote that :S 80 HOURS played. The funny thing is in my opinion I've only played Dota 2 very rarely casually, but it's probably the most played game on my steam list of 30+ games now.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 20 2012 13:00 GMT
#12873
On June 20 2012 21:53 AndyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:19 anonymitylol wrote:
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


You've played 1920 hours!? Jesus christ man take a break O_O


Ugh sorry, duno why I wrote that :S 80 HOURS played. The funny thing is in my opinion I've only played Dota 2 very rarely casually, but it's probably the most played game on my steam list of 30+ games now.

Same here, about 85 hours played (most vs bots though because I'm terrible and insecure) which is far more than I play most games. I can't believe I've played about as much as a decently normal playthrough of final fantasy VII takes, and I'm still getting the basic knowledge down of enough heroes so that I can start playing random draft somewhat comfortably.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
June 20 2012 13:03 GMT
#12874
On June 20 2012 21:53 AndyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:19 anonymitylol wrote:
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


You've played 1920 hours!? Jesus christ man take a break O_O


Ugh sorry, duno why I wrote that :S 80 HOURS played. The funny thing is in my opinion I've only played Dota 2 very rarely casually, but it's probably the most played game on my steam list of 30+ games now.


Well shit, I'm at about 535 hours. 93.1 hours in the past 2 weeks.

:X
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 20 2012 13:37 GMT
#12875
On June 20 2012 19:55 Catch]22 wrote:
Not all spells could be stolen in dota 1, probably similar limitations... Morph was one such spell that could not be stolen.

iirc the spells that couldn't be stolen in dota 1 were due to engine restrictions, mostly hotkey conflicts.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 13:44:55
June 20 2012 13:43 GMT
#12876
On June 20 2012 22:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 19:55 Catch]22 wrote:
Not all spells could be stolen in dota 1, probably similar limitations... Morph was one such spell that could not be stolen.

iirc the spells that couldn't be stolen in dota 1 were due to engine restrictions, mostly hotkey conflicts.

They were mostly transformation spells (Lycan ult, Sylla ult, Batrider Firefly) and orb effects (Frost Arrow, Searing Arrow).

However almost every spell can be stolen now and some just seem a bit too powerful, turning yourself into Sylla bear form essentially gives you 1000 extra HP, stealing morphling's str morph would make you want to switch all of your agi to str.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 20 2012 13:56 GMT
#12877
On June 20 2012 22:00 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:53 AndyJay wrote:
On June 20 2012 21:19 anonymitylol wrote:
On June 20 2012 20:57 AndyJay wrote:
Didn't think it would ever happen but I'm finally used to and enjoying the graphical style. 80 days played...


You've played 1920 hours!? Jesus christ man take a break O_O


Ugh sorry, duno why I wrote that :S 80 HOURS played. The funny thing is in my opinion I've only played Dota 2 very rarely casually, but it's probably the most played game on my steam list of 30+ games now.

Same here, about 85 hours played (most vs bots though because I'm terrible and insecure) which is far more than I play most games. I can't believe I've played about as much as a decently normal playthrough of final fantasy VII takes, and I'm still getting the basic knowledge down of enough heroes so that I can start playing random draft somewhat comfortably.


Over 100h played but only 2 games against people. Still too scared. Some day.
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
June 20 2012 14:08 GMT
#12878
I would like to ask why Bane Elementals max Nightmare rather than leaving it a level 1 and getting stats, especially support Banes who may be lacking stats. It only adds 1 extra second and nothing else each level.

I have played Bane (both farming & support roles) going 1 in Nightmare then stats (skipping Enfeeble until later) for a while and it's never felt like I ever needed extra duration on Nightmare. Yet in pro games it's always maxed (I think some people may get 1 or 2 level of stats early but they do end up maxing Nightmare).
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
June 20 2012 14:16 GMT
#12879
On June 20 2012 23:08 The Great Taste wrote:
I would like to ask why Bane Elementals max Nightmare rather than leaving it a level 1 and getting stats, especially support Banes who may be lacking stats. It only adds 1 extra second and nothing else each level.

I have played Bane (both farming & support roles) going 1 in Nightmare then stats (skipping Enfeeble until later) for a while and it's never felt like I ever needed extra duration on Nightmare. Yet in pro games it's always maxed (I think some people may get 1 or 2 level of stats early but they do end up maxing Nightmare).


Keeping an important hero out of a teamfight for an extra 3 seconds is HUGE. If you're up against a fed anti-mage, or you can get a nightmare off on a tidehunter right before he blinks/ravages then those 3 seconds are going to be huge, and give your team a giant advantage.

If you're building support Bane, there's NO reason to be going stats over nightmare. Your role as support is to help your carries do as much as they can, and keeping a big hero out of a fight for a few seconds is giant. Don't underestimate the power of CC!
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
June 20 2012 14:25 GMT
#12880
On June 20 2012 23:16 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:08 The Great Taste wrote:
I would like to ask why Bane Elementals max Nightmare rather than leaving it a level 1 and getting stats, especially support Banes who may be lacking stats. It only adds 1 extra second and nothing else each level.

I have played Bane (both farming & support roles) going 1 in Nightmare then stats (skipping Enfeeble until later) for a while and it's never felt like I ever needed extra duration on Nightmare. Yet in pro games it's always maxed (I think some people may get 1 or 2 level of stats early but they do end up maxing Nightmare).


Keeping an important hero out of a teamfight for an extra 3 seconds is HUGE. If you're up against a fed anti-mage, or you can get a nightmare off on a tidehunter right before he blinks/ravages then those 3 seconds are going to be huge, and give your team a giant advantage.

If you're building support Bane, there's NO reason to be going stats over nightmare. Your role as support is to help your carries do as much as they can, and keeping a big hero out of a fight for a few seconds is giant. Don't underestimate the power of CC!


There is so much going on in a fight though. The AOE spell of an ally hero is more than likely to bring the hero out of sleep in those 4 seconds. I don't think you will ever get the ideal situation where the Bane can sleep someone that is outside the main area of battle so they won't get woken up by AOE damage.
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