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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:38:07
September 03 2014 19:37 GMT
#127341
On September 04 2014 04:29 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:26 Torte de Lini wrote:
When do updates usually get released? I don't want to go to bed now and miss it if they're coming today.


itll probably come out thursday

There's a korean nexon competition where you have to guess Korean techies names. The deadline to submit them is friday night, so the update is probably not coming sooner than that.
super gg
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:40:18
September 03 2014 19:39 GMT
#127342
oh look creative draft losing to void
+ Show Spoiler [trolldusa] +

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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
September 03 2014 19:39 GMT
#127343
On September 04 2014 03:37 Comeh wrote:
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On September 04 2014 03:33 Targe wrote:
On September 04 2014 03:27 Comeh wrote:
I've started a new thing to do while bored at work
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by comeh, age 25

On September 04 2014 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On September 04 2014 03:31 ahswtini wrote:
On September 04 2014 03:27 Comeh wrote:
I've started a new thing to do while bored at work
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Your life revolves around not working at work

So's everybody in LD GD yes



aha! i do nothing all day erry day

I'm having a lot of trouble making a good morph.
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This made me laugh a lot
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:41:19
September 03 2014 19:40 GMT
#127344
On September 04 2014 04:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with ti4 is that the finals were 2 Chinese teams, neither of whom where DK or even iG

In terms of overall game quality it was vastly superior to ti3

I know you love Chinese Dota, but you can't possibly be serious, rolf. :D :D TI3 finals went to 5 games with a baserace at the end of the last game, had awesome stuff not seen before in the tournament (wisp mid, for example) and most importantly it wasn't a 4 game 20 minute roflstomp with pretty much the same deathball all 4 games.

Just try being the tiniest bit objective.
super gg
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 03 2014 19:41 GMT
#127345
Not in terms of the finals, but throughout the entire event

The finals of ti4 was basically the same as the first 4 games of the ti3 finals without the last game
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:42:53
September 03 2014 19:41 GMT
#127346
On September 04 2014 04:40 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:37 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem with ti4 is that the finals were 2 Chinese teams, neither of whom where DK or even iG

In terms of overall game quality it was vastly superior to ti3

I know you love Chinese Dota, but you can't possibly be serious, rolf. :D :D TI3 finals went to 5 games with a baserace at the end of the last game, had awesome stuff not seen before in the tournament (wisp mid, for example) and most importantly it wasn't a 4 game 20 minute roflstomp with pretty much the same deathball all 4 games.

He's talking about overall quality of the entire tournament, which was indeed better than TI3.

EDIT: Ninja'd
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 03 2014 19:42 GMT
#127347
On September 04 2014 04:39 Comeh wrote:
oh look creative draft losing to void
+ Show Spoiler [trolldusa] +

[image loading]


I didn't watch the game - did they just get outplayed or was drafting anything creative vs void/sky doomed to lose
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 03 2014 19:44 GMT
#127348
They had an undying
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 03 2014 19:45 GMT
#127349
I think everyone response really goes to show the power of the last, nail biter game. As long as the event finishes on a high note, everyone loves it. If its a blow out, everyone curses the event, Valve and Icefrog for failing to catch lightning in a bottle twice.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 03 2014 19:49 GMT
#127350
It's crap too, because the vast majority of the games leading up to that were literally some of the best games of any tournament. Each series seemed to have players and teams stepping it up and improving on their play in almost every area. The EG vs Newbee series was exceptionally good (excluding game 3) and both sides really showed potential to have another good match if they played again. I really wish that EG had been able to make it, but unfortunately they couldn't stop VG.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 03 2014 19:50 GMT
#127351
On September 04 2014 04:41 Kupon3ss wrote:
Not in terms of the finals, but throughout the entire event

The finals of ti4 was basically the same as the first 4 games of the ti3 finals without the last game

The entire event yeah, I agree. I think the format this year was much better, which helped a ton.

The first 4 games of TI 3 finals were way better than TI4 finals. Tons of cool picks and new stuff, carry venge in the first game, mid wisp, bulldog's unbanned bear, Ogre picked for the first time in the entire event in the third game, Nightstalker was also picked for like only the third time in the fourth game. And the games were pretty close, only game 1 and 2 were stomps comparable to Newbee vs VG.
super gg
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 03 2014 19:52 GMT
#127352
That amazing C9 meepo buy back play was one of the most amazing plays I have seen in dota and it is so under rated. I went from "WTF really?" to "Holy shit they are doing this" in under a minute.

Those EG games were great too. I just wish they had not gotten so shut down in that last game, but shit like that happens at high level games.(or pub games, really)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 03 2014 19:52 GMT
#127353
On a lighter note



YP looking to sponsor the best stache in gaming. Match made in heaven.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:57:36
September 03 2014 19:55 GMT
#127354
On September 04 2014 04:50 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:41 Kupon3ss wrote:
Not in terms of the finals, but throughout the entire event

The finals of ti4 was basically the same as the first 4 games of the ti3 finals without the last game

The entire event yeah, I agree. I think the format this year was much better, which helped a ton.

The first 4 games of TI 3 finals were way better than TI4 finals. Tons of cool picks and new stuff, carry venge in the first game, mid wisp, bulldog's unbanned bear, Ogre picked for the first time in the entire event in the third game, Nightstalker was also picked for like only the third time in the fourth game. And the games were pretty close, only game 1 and 2 were stomps comparable to Newbee vs VG.

No games weren't pretty close, in all first 4 games winner was known around 15 minutes mark at most, and 5th game was only entertaining because neither team played well.
And about TI2 buildup, during TI4 NewBee storyline is very simillar to NaVi from TI2 except they won.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 03 2014 19:55 GMT
#127355
On September 04 2014 04:55 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:50 cecek wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:41 Kupon3ss wrote:
Not in terms of the finals, but throughout the entire event

The finals of ti4 was basically the same as the first 4 games of the ti3 finals without the last game

The entire event yeah, I agree. I think the format this year was much better, which helped a ton.

The first 4 games of TI 3 finals were way better than TI4 finals. Tons of cool picks and new stuff, carry venge in the first game, mid wisp, bulldog's unbanned bear, Ogre picked for the first time in the entire event in the third game, Nightstalker was also picked for like only the third time in the fourth game. And the games were pretty close, only game 1 and 2 were stomps comparable to Newbee vs VG.

No games weren't pretty close, in all first 4 games winner was known around 15 minutes mark at most, and 5th game was only entertaining because neither team played well.

I don't think you've ever had a positive thought in ur life
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 19:58:47
September 03 2014 19:56 GMT
#127356
People care about storylines. Nobody minds Navi vs Alliance had 4 awful games because it made for a great plot, with a nailbiting final game to send it home.

TI4 was just fan favorite teams getting eliminated left and right until we got 2 teams that the vast majority didn't care or rooted for, who then proceeded to play 4 boring games. 5 million dollars was too much money for either of them to try anything new or risky, appearently.

anyone remember C9's games vs...VG was it? First game was good, but C9 lost. Things looked dire, and then they came back the next day in game 2, elmination in sight...to pick MEEPO. HOLY FUCKING SHIT RIGHT? that game just might have been the best game in TI4, with the glorious lose rax bait into teamwipe VG into take all their raxes, while Clock blocks VG's fountain. I remember being blown out of my fucking mind, I was estatic

and then 5 minutes later C9 did the most obvious level 1 rosh in existance and everyone jumped ship and chose to forget the series ever happened
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 03 2014 19:57 GMT
#127357
On September 04 2014 04:56 hooahah wrote:
People care about storylines. Nobody minds Navi vs Alliance had 4 awful games because it made for a great plot, with a nailbiting final game to send it home.

TI4 was just fan favorite teams getting eliminated left and right until we got 2 teams that the vast majority didn't care or rooted for, who then proceeded to play 4 boring games. 5 million dollars was too much money for either of them to try anything new or risky, appearently.

I don't even care about the fan favorite part, but it took 3 series and one day for NB to get into the finals.

Great story.
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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
September 03 2014 19:58 GMT
#127358
On September 04 2014 04:42 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:39 Comeh wrote:
oh look creative draft losing to void
+ Show Spoiler [trolldusa] +

[image loading]


I didn't watch the game - did they just get outplayed or was drafting anything creative vs void/sky doomed to lose

They definitely could have won, they just got outplayed in the last half of the game.
CIS Doto
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#127359
To be fair NB bubble-raced themselves from a playoff to avoid elimination all the way to the upper bracket and eventually the grand finals.

If they were C9/Alliance/EG the fans would have been jizzing themselves over the sick storyline.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#127360
On September 04 2014 04:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
To be fair NB bubble-raced themselves from a playoff to avoid elimination all the way to the upper bracket and eventually the grand finals.

If they were C9/Alliance/EG the fans would have been jizzing themselves over the sick storyline.

It was a great story there, but honestly the main event should be where the stories are made - not on the online portion.
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