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On July 23 2014 00:36 Plansix wrote:
But you can't buy gold, so you can't buy the progression items. You need to play to get them. It will just cause people to play the game more.
Also, Feedbolt is knee deep in Wildstar apparently. Dat Passion.
You can't buy gold, but there's bound to be an effect on the pay-to-win dynamics because you'd rather be spending your gold buying new heroes. With the new system you have to pick between being on par on runes (having less heroes), being below par on runes (having more heroes) or forking up the dough.
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On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to'
despite the obvious trolling
Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be.
Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends.
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On July 23 2014 01:20 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:19 BurningSera wrote:
But the latest patches dont quite 'taking turns', we never get such a big pool of comepetitive picks in the history of dota, and even if you did get the top picks, you still dont get that much of advantage compared to the patches pre-2013.
While blizzard's way of balance is literally 'taking turns', so that they satisfy their customers in order to keep sucking their blood/money. 'Just keep playing and paying blizzard will buff us eventually!', which is certainly not the case in dota.
speaking of that, where is comeh's buff on morph in 2014 lol Curiously, that was mostly after that comic was made, so it's not even that relevant. IceFrog doesn't have the burden of having to balance the game so every hero is equally strong. It's far easier to fall into the trap of taking turns in buffs and nerfs if you have to.
ya nerfnow author is pretty meh at the games but somehow it describes the current state of the companies quite well (i have no clues about LoL though) so i like to use it for a quick overview, it is certainly not the most accurate drawing. We both used '' on 'taking turns' too.
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On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends.
that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes
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On July 23 2014 01:10 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 00:54 Fwizzz wrote:
With TI already done, Im quite excited for the new patch and roster shuffles. I am not but at the same time; I hope Blink Dagger gets nerfed
I hope they nerf it but please don't add a mana cost back as i really like to be able to casually use it to get over the map faster. I would like a gold cost increase or something.
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On July 23 2014 01:10 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 00:54 Fwizzz wrote:
With TI already done, Im quite excited for the new patch and roster shuffles. I am not but at the same time; I hope Blink Dagger gets nerfed
Blink is probably my most purchased item in the game. It's so versatile and has so many uses.
I expect a nerf or gold increase on the next patch.
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On July 23 2014 01:27 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends. that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes
and this is something a lot of players still complain about in lol, that they don't get fair games unless they grind hundreds of hours and evne if they grind they don't get fair games but don't care if they have the advantage.
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On July 23 2014 01:34 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:27 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends. that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes and this is something a lot of players still complain about in lol, that they don't get fair games unless they grind hundreds of hours and evne if they grind they don't get fair games but don't care if they have the advantage.
ok?
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It only takes aprox. 320 days of continuous 24/7 play to unlock everything that affects power in LoL
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On July 23 2014 01:37 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:34 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 23 2014 01:27 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends. that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes and this is something a lot of players still complain about in lol, that they don't get fair games unless they grind hundreds of hours and evne if they grind they don't get fair games but don't care if they have the advantage. ok?
Yeah, I with you. I am not sure that last part was english. Runes in LoL are kinda crap and are just an IP sink. They provide a reasonable advantage, but you can get by on the super cheap level 1 runes. At the end of the day, they have never gotten in the way of me enjoying the game. The only people I hear complain about them are people who don't play LoL and hold up the rune system as some sort of massive failing or flaw with the game.
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On July 23 2014 01:44 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:37 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:34 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 23 2014 01:27 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends. that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes and this is something a lot of players still complain about in lol, that they don't get fair games unless they grind hundreds of hours and evne if they grind they don't get fair games but don't care if they have the advantage. ok? Yeah, I with you. I am not sure that last part was english. Runes in LoL are kinda crap and are just an IP sink. They provide a reasonable advantage, but you can get by on the super cheap level 1 runes. At the end of the day, they have never gotten in the way of me enjoying the game. The only people I hear complain about them are people who don't play LoL and hold up the rune system as some sort of massive failing or flaw with the game.
I never played LoL and runes are definitely one of the things holding me away from even trying it. I just don't want to deal with that shit, I don't want to look up which fucking rune I should use with which hero or something like that before even starting the game.
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i played lol quite a few times with friends and i always got pissed they could do stuff that i just couldnt do
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On July 23 2014 02:38 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 01:44 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2014 01:37 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:34 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 23 2014 01:27 Targe wrote:On July 23 2014 01:25 idonthinksobro wrote:On July 22 2014 23:10 Targe wrote:On July 22 2014 22:59 idonthinksobro wrote:
i think it is awful, i just read the blog post and what some of the runes do. I imagine that stuff roughly translates to dota there is a rune that gives you 40% more max mana and another one that gives you up to 1.0 mana regeneration. I don't even want to think about how insanely broken stuff would be in dota with runes like that.
A hero with max runes vs a hero without any runes should win everytime. Not even a contest, how can this be acceptable by anyones standards? 'its fair because everyone has the option to get all runes you just choose not to' despite the obvious trolling Regardless if my decision is to get all runes or to not get any runes; i will not get "good and fair" games because other players can choose if they want to get the runes or not as well. It is completely irrelevant if it would be fair in theory, in practice it won't be. Stomping and getting stomped are both not very fun, in fact i stopped playing awesomenauts because 90% of the games were stomps (in your favor) especially if you stack with friends. that is what ive heard players legitimately say about lol runes and this is something a lot of players still complain about in lol, that they don't get fair games unless they grind hundreds of hours and evne if they grind they don't get fair games but don't care if they have the advantage. ok? Yeah, I with you. I am not sure that last part was english. Runes in LoL are kinda crap and are just an IP sink. They provide a reasonable advantage, but you can get by on the super cheap level 1 runes. At the end of the day, they have never gotten in the way of me enjoying the game. The only people I hear complain about them are people who don't play LoL and hold up the rune system as some sort of massive failing or flaw with the game. I never played LoL and runes are definitely one of the things holding me away from even trying it. I just don't want to deal with that shit, I don't want to look up which fucking rune I should use with which hero or something like that before even starting the game.
Ok, Im going to let you in on a little secret, 95% of the characters in LoL us the same runes for each position. Top lane mostly use the same runes, same with bottom lane, mid, jungle and supports. There are a few exceptions, but nothing worth talking about. And most of it is personal preference if you want 90 more HP or like 10 more damage or 6% more movement speed. Its the difference between having a culling blade or 3 gg branches, but you can't cut down trees. As long as you have runes in the slots that slightly resemble what the character does(like yo, this bitch uses magic, so I got dem magic runes), you will do fine since your not competing in the LCS.
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iv had lots of friends switch from lol to dota but never the other way around
it seems lame to me that people in LCS can do things that I cant though.
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On July 23 2014 02:47 PassiveAce wrote:
iv had lots of friends switch from lol to dota but never the other way around
it seems lame to me that people in LCS can do things that I cant though.
You mean get paid for playing LoL? That might be your problem more than the game's. Just saying.
I could list for days all the reasons I don't play specific games, but in the end they are my reasons. The whole argument of "Yo, the game is objectively worse than dota because look at this rune system" is just silly. Better or worse is totally subjective, unless we are talking about train wreck games like "Big Rigs" or Atari's ET.
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I think the rune system is fucking garbage.
And i have played a few hundred games of LoL with friends, not like i haven't played LoL ever. I just think it's a fucking awful system that serves no real purpose outside of being more stuff to grind for. Ontop of that everyone not being at an even playing field is also a huge turn-off.
That's just my opinion obviously. Not like it's objective truth or anything.
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does anybody have a clue when the secret shop items are going to be released online?
I need the invoker balls shirt and the axe pocket shirt
and maybe a plushie
and maybe a tiny statue
and maybe the dazzolator card
and maybe the mentor of high plains card
so yea deets pls
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Shagbark plushy is the best plushy. Confirmed by everyone who has ever held him.
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apparently we're getting a european distributor this time around that will open shop the 1st of august.
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the store will be sold out under 1 minute.
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