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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 21 2014 01:31 GMT
#118541
go VG!
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 21 2014 01:37 GMT
#118542
I'm exited for the finals but Tobi+Lumi? Are you for real? I just don't think Lumi cuts it on the stage as large as The International main stage. Especially not for the grand finals. Without a shadow of a doubt it should be Synd+Tobi/LD
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 21 2014 01:38 GMT
#118543
On July 21 2014 10:37 NexUmbra wrote:
I'm exited for the finals but Tobi+Lumi? Are you for real? I just don't think Lumi cuts it on the stage as large as The International main stage. Especially not for the grand finals. Without a shadow of a doubt it should be Synd+Tobi/LD

tobi + lumi is da best
fuck da rest
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 21 2014 01:39 GMT
#118544
I'd rather Lumi than Tobi missing kills and not knowing how the game works half the time. But he yells a lot so people like him.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 01:42:27
July 21 2014 01:41 GMT
#118545
thats pretty rich coming from you
and stop caster bashing pls guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 21 2014 01:42 GMT
#118546
On July 21 2014 10:39 Jaaaaasper wrote:
I'd rather Lumi than Tobi missing kills and not knowing how the game works half the time. But he yells a lot so people like him.

Lumi says a lot of wrong shit too, difference is that he is apparently an 'analyst.' Also no matter how much hate people have for Tobi you must admit that he has brilliant synergy with Synd.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
July 21 2014 01:45 GMT
#118547
dont care about tobi +lumi.
went for chinese commentary and nvr came back.
bias as fuck but zhou, longdd and co really knows their shit.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 21 2014 01:47 GMT
#118548
On July 21 2014 10:41 Erasme wrote:
thats pretty rich coming from you
and stop caster bashing pls guys

that itemization
so much defense
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 21 2014 01:52 GMT
#118549
lol did u expect offense?


i really hope VG takes it now
not that i care much anymore
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 01:55 GMT
#118550
why was the stostakovich blog brought down from the community news?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
July 21 2014 01:57 GMT
#118551
rOtk too likeable to not root for him.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 21 2014 02:01 GMT
#118552
Don't forget guys!

WriterXiao8~~
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 21 2014 02:15 GMT
#118553
[image loading]


apparently mushi is american now
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 21 2014 02:31 GMT
#118554
sad to see no epic west vs east finals but at least my favorite chinese team is still alive. googog sylar, fanboy since ti2, fy ain't bad either
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
July 21 2014 02:42 GMT
#118555
Is anyone else slightly disappointed with TI this year? I don't know if it is the format or the way most of the games have been stomps but I am not excited about the finals and haven't really had any "omfg that series" moments either. Even the all star match was kinda killed by 430 putting on his srs face
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
July 21 2014 02:49 GMT
#118556
On July 21 2014 11:42 giftdgecko wrote:
Is anyone else slightly disappointed with TI this year? I don't know if it is the format or the way most of the games have been stomps but I am not excited about the finals and haven't really had any "omfg that series" moments either. Even the all star match was kinda killed by 430 putting on his srs face

A little bit . I liked the round robin format but it being b01 and how they handled tiebreakers was the one i didn't like. I wish it was b02 instead of b01. And i didn't like the tiebreaker format because it was a hype killer that liquid had to experience it and navi and c9 didn't. Really hated that stuff. But i'm biased so don't believe anything i say.
this is a quote
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
July 21 2014 02:56 GMT
#118557
On July 21 2014 11:49 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2014 11:42 giftdgecko wrote:
Is anyone else slightly disappointed with TI this year? I don't know if it is the format or the way most of the games have been stomps but I am not excited about the finals and haven't really had any "omfg that series" moments either. Even the all star match was kinda killed by 430 putting on his srs face

A little bit . I liked the round robin format but it being b01 and how they handled tiebreakers was the one i didn't like. I wish it was b02 instead of b01. And i didn't like the tiebreaker format because it was a hype killer that liquid had to experience it and navi and c9 didn't. Really hated that stuff. But i'm biased so don't believe anything i say.

They definitely should look at the group stage format again next year, I think it can be made better. I am also a bit biased because of liquid but putting that aside the main event has been kinda meh. Maybe it is the stompy way some of these push strats feel from VG and LGD. Call me crazy but I'd rather have a 65 minute game or even rat dota instead
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 21 2014 02:59 GMT
#118558
not if you were rooting for china... then this year is the best year ever... all chinese team got to top 8 and only got knocked out by another chinese team.

Meta wise these wards push has been all over dota1 since 2007-2008. Abusing ward spell immune feature to sieg and fast push is not impossible to stop but teams made too many mistakes as a lot of them are young and inexperience. Analysis like maelk and merlini could easily disect the draft strengths and weaknesses down to few seconds cooldown timing on an ulti that help a team push tower. Younger teams played greedily while older team made execution mistakes, the chinese teams who have a well mixed of experienced players and young talents came out on top made a lot more sense than Navi making it to the final despite xboct feeding the entire year.

Im just quite sad for C9. Their game 2 with doom and meepo was beautifully executed and if they didnt gave in for a greedy level 1 rosh, i think they could have made it much further in. Pretty much quite similar to Titan lose: self defeating.

If anything, this year TI is quite similar to last year: there is 1 meta that is ahead of every other teams and VG/newbee managed to play it better just like how [A] played their style better. Last year I think Orange Tongfu played better than both Navi and [A], Navi even played way better than [A] in that last game too. But shit happened...
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 21 2014 03:08 GMT
#118559
The reason push is working so well is because teams have been drafting these super tanky cores that need items to be in the middle of everything and fighting. Look at that last game from VG and EG. EG gives up mobility and counter push for tankiness and team fight and end up paying when they can't find a way to start in.

It's also to do with the execution from the teams. Their precision when to fight and when to be aggressive is just on another level. VG and NB just know when they can take it to the enemy and they take full advantage of it.

And sorry but rice fests and split push need this to exist so that we don't get the 50 minute no rush games where teams literally don't cross the river at all. The aggression is amazing and I hope we get even more heroes who can execute it in the future.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 03:21:50
July 21 2014 03:21 GMT
#118560
I do think the power push strats are a little to good and the early game is a little snowbally right now. I want to see how IceFrog addresses it. The games are fun, but I do like to see a little more room for comebacks. Its just what I am seeing right now and could change next week. But right now I do miss some of the greed, just a little.

This has been the TI of tunnel vision drafting for sure. I haven't seen a KotL against any of these push strats, or PL or any of the other heroes we saw just a month ago. But maybe tomorrow will surprise me.

I have also come to the strong opinion that it is BS that you can use items while smoked. Being able to blink and not break smoke is just silly. I think smoke needs to be a little easier to break since there are only two ways in the game it get revealed and one of them doesn't move.
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