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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12249 Posts
July 07 2014 18:08 GMT
#116801
Eblade has a long cd though so you can't just jump from person to person, plus it's expensive. It's really good but you'd only be able to use it on one target per fight.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 18:09:53
July 07 2014 18:09 GMT
#116802
On July 08 2014 03:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

Wait, nevermind.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 07 2014 18:21 GMT
#116803
On July 08 2014 02:48 andyrau wrote:
so basically the pairings are:
LD & Synd
Tobi & Lumi
Ayesee & Maelk
Lysander & Basskip
Merlini & Godz
Maut & Kotlguy
Blitz & Pyrion & Shane
Capitalist & Waga

i think i like ld/lumi & tobi/synd better
or sunsfan/synd wouldve been gr9 too

tobi + lumi? fuck yes
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 07 2014 18:21 GMT
#116804
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
July 07 2014 18:23 GMT
#116805
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 07 2014 18:24 GMT
#116806
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.


Some of them might care. That's why i say there will be roster changes.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
July 07 2014 18:24 GMT
#116807


Also
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 07 2014 18:25 GMT
#116808
On July 08 2014 03:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Here's a thought for a murderspree tag team that I think might be really hilarious in pubs: Huskar with Aghs+Veil and Axe with Aghs. Farm isn't too difficult to get and the results are promising.

If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

If the Veil debuff is not applied (say the secondary targets avoided the Veil AoE) your numbers are 585/878/1219 hp.

This all assumes normal magic resistance (no pipe/cloak/AM/Meepo) but it sounds really fun. Team Alley-Oop, the Dunk Bros.

I'm like 90% sure that magic resist does not factor into the kill threshold for axe
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 18:26:59
July 07 2014 18:25 GMT
#116809
Well that pic doesn't show the bottom of the schedule wat a noob.
On July 08 2014 03:25 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Here's a thought for a murderspree tag team that I think might be really hilarious in pubs: Huskar with Aghs+Veil and Axe with Aghs. Farm isn't too difficult to get and the results are promising.

If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

If the Veil debuff is not applied (say the secondary targets avoided the Veil AoE) your numbers are 585/878/1219 hp.

This all assumes normal magic resistance (no pipe/cloak/AM/Meepo) but it sounds really fun. Team Alley-Oop, the Dunk Bros.

I'm like 90% sure that magic resist does not factor into the kill threshold for axe

The point was how much HP and magic resist they can have before Huskar does/doesn't put them below axe's kill threshold.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 07 2014 18:28 GMT
#116810
On July 08 2014 03:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well that pic doesn't show the bottom of the schedule wat a noob.
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:25 andyrau wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Here's a thought for a murderspree tag team that I think might be really hilarious in pubs: Huskar with Aghs+Veil and Axe with Aghs. Farm isn't too difficult to get and the results are promising.

If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

If the Veil debuff is not applied (say the secondary targets avoided the Veil AoE) your numbers are 585/878/1219 hp.

This all assumes normal magic resistance (no pipe/cloak/AM/Meepo) but it sounds really fun. Team Alley-Oop, the Dunk Bros.

I'm like 90% sure that magic resist does not factor into the kill threshold for axe

The point was how much HP and magic resist they can have before Huskar does/doesn't put them below axe's kill threshold.

ohh
well that explains everything about his post
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
July 07 2014 18:34 GMT
#116811
On July 08 2014 03:24 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.


Some of them might care. That's why i say there will be roster changes.

Team management is likely to care about their results.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#116812
On July 08 2014 03:34 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:24 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.


Some of them might care. That's why i say there will be roster changes.

Team management is likely to care about their results.

R u kidding that same management just hired NAR
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
July 07 2014 18:36 GMT
#116813
On July 08 2014 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:34 lprk wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:24 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.


Some of them might care. That's why i say there will be roster changes.

Team management is likely to care about their results.

R u kidding that same management just hired NAR

I realised that just after I posted
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2014 18:37 GMT
#116814
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.

People could and did say the exact same thing last year. It's still NaVi and they sort of decide when they want to turn it on.

Also, I get a lot of the Stephano vibe from NaVi and their claims of not practicing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 07 2014 18:43 GMT
#116815
arent they looking worse now then they did before ti3
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#116816
On July 08 2014 03:23 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:21 TMG26 wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 hfglgg wrote:

i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.


This is exactly why i believe Na'vi will have a roster change. It is not enough for some of those players to get good salary and be a good team. They want to be the best, and their current team isn't able to do it.


Really doubt they care anymore. They all have tons of money and they obviously can't be bothered to practice.


if they really dont care anymore, they will probably end their careers. no one likes being beaten all the time, especially when you were the very best at some point.
you also have to account for the diminishing return navi gets when their squad doesnt deliver results. the last month the only lan finals they went to were the ones where they got invited and there they were eliminated quickly. navi wont be invited after ti4 if they dont have some outstanding results and if they dont qualify to those upcoming events navi will get less and less out of their players, which will natuarly decrease their salary as well.

so in the case of navi failing this TI (bottom 8) its in the best interest of the team and the organization to find a way to quickly get better results. the last time navi played consistently below the expectations the swapped to players, i dont think it will be any different if they continue having those sub par results.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 07 2014 18:47 GMT
#116817
Omg, these team banners are so cool.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#116818
On July 08 2014 03:43 Targe wrote:
arent they looking worse now then they did before ti3

They also looked terrible pre ti2, and almost won it
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 07 2014 18:52 GMT
#116819
On July 08 2014 03:50 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:43 Targe wrote:
arent they looking worse now then they did before ti3

They also looked terrible pre ti2, and almost won it

ok, i was just basing things of liquipedia, from the tournament results it looks like theyre at their worst theyve ever been at
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 07 2014 18:52 GMT
#116820
I just realized that you could mouse over each player on the large team picture in the TI4 team features
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