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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2014 17:36 GMT
#116781
On July 08 2014 02:26 TheEmulator wrote:
Time to convert euro to cad and find out how much plansix earns.

on another note. Made it to Vancouver. Boarding my seattle flight in 10 minutes.

It's like 40k, but I pull down massive over time. This might be the year they put me in salary to stop me from doing that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#116782
If I was 26, making 40K a year, I'd be desperate to improve that cuz by 30 i'd be making 0K a year and unless I had a college degree my prospects would be slim

But I do get where ur coming from, I just don't think that that mindset is where players are.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 17:40:13
July 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#116783
On July 08 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
Oh my bad, I thought Puppy was from Ukraine. I guess not. And paychecks matter if you have responsibilities and family's, which is a thing for a at least Dendi.

And it's all semantics at this point on why people would leave or stay. But I do believe that the era of quitting your current team and forming a new one to try and make it to TI the next year are almost over. It is a very risky thing to do and any seasoned player would know that. If they could be signed to another team they liked, maybe.

Edit:2.5k euros is close to what I make a year without OT and bonuses. You don't just walk away from that without a plan. And you think about it real hard if it's just over drama and shit that could be worked out be both getting a little hammered and putting on boxing gloves

2nd edit: fuck that is before prize money. Damn. He is doing well for himself if that is true.

wait what
don't want to pry but you only make ~3.5k usd a year? thats way below federal min wages wtf
or did you mean 3.5 a month after social security and taxes withheld and 401k deductions etc

e: ya you meant per month
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
July 07 2014 17:41 GMT
#116784
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 07 2014 17:41 GMT
#116785
seems like there won't be fixed caster pairings this year.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 17:42:53
July 07 2014 17:41 GMT
#116786
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

E: @cecek Opterown posted this full schedule with english casters: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9S4S3CcAARM7z.jpg:large
So yeah you can see the pairings. They are fairly fixed.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2014 17:43 GMT
#116787
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

Paralegal son. Pretending in a lawyer will get me fined 20k and 2 years in prison(hyperbole, clearly, but they will come for you)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 07 2014 17:43 GMT
#116788
On July 08 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
Oh my bad, I thought Puppy was from Ukraine. I guess not. And paychecks matter if you have responsibilities and family's, which is a thing for a at least Dendi.

And it's all semantics at this point on why people would leave or stay. But I do believe that the era of quitting your current team and forming a new one to try and make it to TI the next year are almost over. It is a very risky thing to do and any seasoned player would know that. If they could be signed to another team they liked, maybe.

Edit:2.5k euros is close to what I make a year without OT and bonuses. You don't just walk away from that without a plan. And you think about it real hard if it's just over drama and shit that could be worked out be both getting a little hammered and putting on boxing gloves

2nd edit: fuck that is before prize money. Damn. He is doing well for himself if that is true.


the core navi boys have made enough money to never work again in their respective countries it would be very surprising if they stick with a team that doesnt work anymore for a few bucks a month.
i also dont think that pros are driving by rational thoughts about how they can sustain their living standards and such. they are driven by the urge to be the best at what they do. if it were any different they wouldnt have become pro in the first place.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
July 07 2014 17:44 GMT
#116789
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

This silly thinks lawyers actually make good money these days. Maybe if you're from a top ten
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 07 2014 17:48 GMT
#116790
Pls I read jawn grishim am lawyer xpurt
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 07 2014 17:48 GMT
#116791
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

E: @cecek Opterown posted this full schedule with english casters: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9S4S3CcAARM7z.jpg:large
So yeah you can see the pairings. They are fairly fixed.

Cool, didn't see that. I guess the last column is the newbie friendly stream. Purge + Sunsfan and Shane + Blitz + Pflax should be great for that.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 07 2014 17:48 GMT
#116792
On July 08 2014 02:48 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

E: @cecek Opterown posted this full schedule with english casters: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9S4S3CcAARM7z.jpg:large
So yeah you can see the pairings. They are fairly fixed.

Cool, didn't see that. I guess the last column is the newbie friendly stream. Purge + Sunsfan and Shane + Blitz + Pflax should be great for that.

Yep, although no purge+blitz waifu stream QQ
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 17:50:07
July 07 2014 17:48 GMT
#116793
so basically the pairings are:
LD & Synd
Tobi & Lumi
Ayesee & Maelk
Lysander & Basskip
Merlini & Godz
Maut & Kotlguy
Blitz & Pyrion & Shane
Capitalist & Waga

i think i like ld/lumi & tobi/synd better
or sunsfan/synd wouldve been gr9 too
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 17:50:35
July 07 2014 17:49 GMT
#116794
It looks about 50/50 LD+Lumi vs Tobi+Lumi
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2014 17:52 GMT
#116795
On July 08 2014 02:44 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

This silly thinks lawyers actually make good money these days. Maybe if you're from a top ten

Confirmed that lawyers make shit unless you are one of the top counsels. It is one of the worst professions possible for pay vs student debt ratio.

And the NaVi guys may have made enough to never have to work, assuming they never get married, have kids or never have any family members that need help. From my impression on Dendi, I do t think he is just letting his blue collar family fend for themselves.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 17:54:07
July 07 2014 17:53 GMT
#116796
nvm
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12249 Posts
July 07 2014 18:00 GMT
#116797
Here's a thought for a murderspree tag team that I think might be really hilarious in pubs: Huskar with Aghs+Veil and Axe with Aghs. Farm isn't too difficult to get and the results are promising.

If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

If the Veil debuff is not applied (say the secondary targets avoided the Veil AoE) your numbers are 585/878/1219 hp.

This all assumes normal magic resistance (no pipe/cloak/AM/Meepo) but it sounds really fun. Team Alley-Oop, the Dunk Bros.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 07 2014 18:02 GMT
#116798
On July 08 2014 02:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:44 TheEmulator wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

This silly thinks lawyers actually make good money these days. Maybe if you're from a top ten

Confirmed that lawyers make shit unless you are one of the top counsels. It is one of the worst professions possible for pay vs student debt ratio.

And the NaVi guys may have made enough to never have to work, assuming they never get married, have kids or never have any family members that need help. From my impression on Dendi, I do t think he is just letting his blue collar family fend for themselves.

I think you're underestimating how much money Dendi and Xboct (the situation is different for Puppey in Estonia) made and how cheap it is to live in Ukraine.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 07 2014 18:05 GMT
#116799
On July 08 2014 03:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Here's a thought for a murderspree tag team that I think might be really hilarious in pubs: Huskar with Aghs+Veil and Axe with Aghs. Farm isn't too difficult to get and the results are promising.

If the Veil debuff is applied: any target with 768/1152/1600 (based on rank of Culling Blade) health instantly dies. Then after 4 seconds you hop to the next person, then the next.

If the Veil debuff is not applied (say the secondary targets avoided the Veil AoE) your numbers are 585/878/1219 hp.

This all assumes normal magic resistance (no pipe/cloak/AM/Meepo) but it sounds really fun. Team Alley-Oop, the Dunk Bros.

I think ur just supposed to buy e-blade on the huskar.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 07 2014 18:06 GMT
#116800
On July 08 2014 02:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 02:44 TheEmulator wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Of course he meant per month. Hes a lawyer yo

if he was a lawyer that would be his week not his month silly.

This silly thinks lawyers actually make good money these days. Maybe if you're from a top ten

Confirmed that lawyers make shit unless you are one of the top counsels. It is one of the worst professions possible for pay vs student debt ratio.

And the NaVi guys may have made enough to never have to work, assuming they never get married, have kids or never have any family members that need help. From my impression on Dendi, I do t think he is just letting his blue collar family fend for themselves.

maybe enough in ukraine, but I'm sure that it takes at least 1.5m in the US for early retirement in your 20s and maintain a respectable standard of living
discounting inflation, ofc

or maybe my view of things is distorted because I live in a very high-cost area
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