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On June 28 2014 05:18 teapoted wrote:
That's not what I'm referring to. I'm saying releasing a statement, looking to cause a shitstorm (because what else would the statement do) to make them change their mind. And in that statement mentioning nothing about the fact that the reason Valve is against it is because Era said he could play. And that they apparently have no medical information saying he can't.

You even have people like SunTzu. Who is apparently an idiot, but still, someone clued into the scene. Tweet about how angry he was that Valve didn't think Mental Illness was serious because why wouldn't they give him the same treatment as Fear. Obviously a stupid thing to say, but that's the kind of sentiment you brew when you don't tell the truth.

Blatant misrepresentation.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with Fnatic wanting to play with another player. If they should be allowed to or if they handled that situation properly is another question, but I don't think that's 'dickish' at all.

On June 28 2014 05:24 PassiveAce wrote:

hm.
if fnatic released the statement for the purpose of getting people to complain to valve on their behalf then that is super lame.
But im not sure we can be certain that was their intent.

On June 28 2014 05:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:


Yes we can. Going to reddit it like that has only one purpose, to whip up a lynch mob to get what you want. No other reason to release that bullshit statement.

On June 28 2014 05:05 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Nice I was right, but I didn't go nearly far enough. I thought fnatic just did a shitty job, but it turns out they were trying to mess with the rules and they threw era under the buss to do it. Shitty organization for a sub par team.


Also holy shit how stupid is fnatic leadership. They tried to sick a lynch mob on valve, knowing that valve had all of that ready to counter punch with? It also seems that fnatic leadership did this because they take a cut of the prize money, which the good organizations like liquid or eg do not. Fucking retarded and slimy on their part, hope this means reddit stops felating them.

On June 28 2014 05:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:


Yes we can. Going to reddit it like that has only one purpose, to whip up a lynch mob to get what you want. No other reason to release that bullshit statement.

On June 27 2014 23:59 Comeh wrote:
Watching purge's coaching sessions is like a lessons on how to focus on things not important about dota at all.

On June 28 2014 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:

Ummm, apparently posting a press release on your website is now "Going to reddit" okay dude. Like no matter what they do you can construe it as "going to reddit" by that criteria. They literally just said "hey this is whats up: we want to play with excalibur because we can't use era properly, he isn't mentally well. Valve wont let us. We sad". And no, you can't contest that "But era is fine" when he can't practice all summer, and "was fine" for DH bucharest too.

Edit: holy shit jaaasper calm the fuck down. you have some weird ass ideas about all the organizations.

On June 28 2014 05:37 cecek wrote:

Dude, what? Fnatic said: "Era unfortunately can't play and we have to use a standin, but Valve won't let us." When what actually happened was that Era can and wants to play, but he got kicked from the team, because the rest of the team and management thinks they can do better without him. That's a massive difference.

On June 28 2014 05:42 teapoted wrote:
Actually, Fnatic said this:

It is Era’s goal to participate in The International (and our hope); we support Era and hope to see him play alongside us.

Going back and reading that statement is pretty funny.

On June 28 2014 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:

Ummm, apparently posting a press release on your website is now "Going to reddit" okay dude. Like no matter what they do you can construe it as "going to reddit" by that criteria. They literally just said "hey this is whats up: we want to play with excalibur because we can't use era properly, he isn't mentally well. Valve wont let us. We sad". And no, you can't contest that "But era is fine" when he can't practice all summer, and "was fine" for DH bucharest too.

Edit: holy shit jaaasper calm the fuck down. you have some weird ass ideas about all the organizations.

On June 28 2014 05:53 Targe wrote:
i fucking said to wait before going ham on valve

On June 28 2014 05:52 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Well given that they excluded a ton of very relevant things in that statement, such as that they had kicked him despite the fact that he was cleared to play, I'm pretty certain that statement was purely intended to whip up a lynch mob, and you have some weird ass ideas about how the world works if you don't realize that. And why do you think nar choose navi? Because eg offered them a deal with only a cut of the prizepool as a one tourney deal, rather than the sponsorship they give their main team. Liquid doesn't take a cut, EG doesn't take a cut from their main team, Navi doesn't take a cut, alliance doesn't take a cut. I can't think of a single western sponsor who takes a cut of players winnings that is held as one of the top organizations to play for. Sponsors who do that tend to get their teams or players poached by the teams I just mentioned. Era was fine for most of the summer, fnatic had just kicked him because they thought that excalibur gave them a better shot at winning based on talent.

On June 28 2014 05:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
? they are playing with era. They just aren't happy about ti cuz era can't practice and could be a basket case in seattle for all they know.

Fnatic the players at least would fucking love to be their normal 5 and have the last month have been bootcamp practice and know that era wont have a mental breakdown in seattle. This isn't some elaborate plan to ditch era lol.

? They excluded ONE thing: Era originally emailed va,lve and asked to play.