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Lmao. Clearly if you werent right before, then you must be right now.
I mean your friends in nadota totally told u everything lel
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Let's settled down guys.
No one really knows all the information on what teams take what.
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On June 28 2014 07:56 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 06:33 Erasme wrote:On June 28 2014 05:52 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:On June 28 2014 05:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:24 PassiveAce wrote:On June 28 2014 05:18 teapoted wrote:On June 28 2014 05:16 PassiveAce wrote:
I think its lame for fnatic to seek valves blessing for a replacement after era indicated that he wanted to play, but its not that dickish in the context of era being flaky lately. That's not what I'm referring to. I'm saying releasing a statement, looking to cause a shitstorm (because what else would the statement do) to make them change their mind. And in that statement mentioning nothing about the fact that the reason Valve is against it is because Era said he could play. And that they apparently have no medical information saying he can't. You even have people like SunTzu. Who is apparently an idiot, but still, someone clued into the scene. Tweet about how angry he was that Valve didn't think Mental Illness was serious because why wouldn't they give him the same treatment as Fear. Obviously a stupid thing to say, but that's the kind of sentiment you brew when you don't tell the truth. Blatant misrepresentation. ~ I don't think there's anything wrong with Fnatic wanting to play with another player. If they should be allowed to or if they handled that situation properly is another question, but I don't think that's 'dickish' at all. hm. if fnatic released the statement for the purpose of getting people to complain to valve on their behalf then that is super lame. But im not sure we can be certain that was their intent. Yes we can. Going to reddit it like that has only one purpose, to whip up a lynch mob to get what you want. No other reason to release that bullshit statement. Ummm, apparently posting a press release on your website is now "Going to reddit" okay dude. Like no matter what they do you can construe it as "going to reddit" by that criteria. They literally just said "hey this is whats up: we want to play with excalibur because we can't use era properly, he isn't mentally well. Valve wont let us. We sad". And no, you can't contest that "But era is fine" when he can't practice all summer, and "was fine" for DH bucharest too. Edit: holy shit jaaasper calm the fuck down. you have some weird ass ideas about all the organizations. Well given that they excluded a ton of very relevant things in that statement, such as that they had kicked him despite the fact that he was cleared to play, I'm pretty certain that statement was purely intended to whip up a lynch mob, and you have some weird ass ideas about how the world works if you don't realize that. And why do you think nar choose navi? Because eg offered them a deal with only a cut of the prizepool as a one tourney deal, rather than the sponsorship they give their main team. Liquid doesn't take a cut, EG doesn't take a cut from their main team, Navi doesn't take a cut, alliance doesn't take a cut. I can't think of a single western sponsor who takes a cut of players winnings that is held as one of the top organizations to play for. Sponsors who do that tend to get their teams or players poached by the teams I just mentioned. Era was fine for most of the summer, fnatic had just kicked him because they thought that excalibur gave them a better shot at winning based on talent. i cant believe how dumb you are. Arstyle left navi cuz he didnt want to give them a cut of his winnings but suuuuure keep arguing like you had any idea Well given that their contract with Nar'vi doesn't take a cut, and liquid/eg/allinace still don't take a cut, I can't believe how dumb you are. but suuuuuuurrrrrrree keep flaming me like you know anything
Actually EG is split 7 ways now. Just fyi.
5 players
1 org
1 coach
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Sad to see fnatic disowning era like that but oh well
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I don't think fnatic realize that a doctors statement saying era can't play now will simply result in them not playing at TI, rather than getting to play with xcalibur
Also fnatic legitimately believe themselves to be in the right, this isn't some sort of conspiracy. So this doesn't surprise me though it's not gonna be good.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Unless Valve didn't post a bunch of emails I don't know what sort of transparency he's talking about.
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Me neither, which is why this can't be good
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
what a delicious day its been
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Is Valve dumb enough to say they will release all the info and not release all the info? I doubt it.
So are they going to release info between them and Era?
That doesn't really solve anything since again, this is between them and Valve.
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You guys ready for "real transparency"? Fnatic's gunna give it to ya.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Although that tweet, as much as I like carn as an old-school CS fan, shows how he's an immature kid who shouldn't be in the position he's in. And he only is because it's the eSports kids pool. That's not how you respond to this.
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On June 28 2014 08:11 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 07:56 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 06:33 Erasme wrote:On June 28 2014 05:52 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:On June 28 2014 05:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:24 PassiveAce wrote:On June 28 2014 05:18 teapoted wrote:On June 28 2014 05:16 PassiveAce wrote:
I think its lame for fnatic to seek valves blessing for a replacement after era indicated that he wanted to play, but its not that dickish in the context of era being flaky lately. That's not what I'm referring to. I'm saying releasing a statement, looking to cause a shitstorm (because what else would the statement do) to make them change their mind. And in that statement mentioning nothing about the fact that the reason Valve is against it is because Era said he could play. And that they apparently have no medical information saying he can't. You even have people like SunTzu. Who is apparently an idiot, but still, someone clued into the scene. Tweet about how angry he was that Valve didn't think Mental Illness was serious because why wouldn't they give him the same treatment as Fear. Obviously a stupid thing to say, but that's the kind of sentiment you brew when you don't tell the truth. Blatant misrepresentation. ~ I don't think there's anything wrong with Fnatic wanting to play with another player. If they should be allowed to or if they handled that situation properly is another question, but I don't think that's 'dickish' at all. hm. if fnatic released the statement for the purpose of getting people to complain to valve on their behalf then that is super lame. But im not sure we can be certain that was their intent. Yes we can. Going to reddit it like that has only one purpose, to whip up a lynch mob to get what you want. No other reason to release that bullshit statement. Ummm, apparently posting a press release on your website is now "Going to reddit" okay dude. Like no matter what they do you can construe it as "going to reddit" by that criteria. They literally just said "hey this is whats up: we want to play with excalibur because we can't use era properly, he isn't mentally well. Valve wont let us. We sad". And no, you can't contest that "But era is fine" when he can't practice all summer, and "was fine" for DH bucharest too. Edit: holy shit jaaasper calm the fuck down. you have some weird ass ideas about all the organizations. Well given that they excluded a ton of very relevant things in that statement, such as that they had kicked him despite the fact that he was cleared to play, I'm pretty certain that statement was purely intended to whip up a lynch mob, and you have some weird ass ideas about how the world works if you don't realize that. And why do you think nar choose navi? Because eg offered them a deal with only a cut of the prizepool as a one tourney deal, rather than the sponsorship they give their main team. Liquid doesn't take a cut, EG doesn't take a cut from their main team, Navi doesn't take a cut, alliance doesn't take a cut. I can't think of a single western sponsor who takes a cut of players winnings that is held as one of the top organizations to play for. Sponsors who do that tend to get their teams or players poached by the teams I just mentioned. Era was fine for most of the summer, fnatic had just kicked him because they thought that excalibur gave them a better shot at winning based on talent. i cant believe how dumb you are. Arstyle left navi cuz he didnt want to give them a cut of his winnings but suuuuure keep arguing like you had any idea Well given that their contract with Nar'vi doesn't take a cut, and liquid/eg/allinace still don't take a cut, I can't believe how dumb you are. but suuuuuuurrrrrrree keep flaming me like you know anything Actually EG is split 7 ways now. Just fyi. 5 players 1 org 1 coach
I remember you saying this is Fear's thread. Where did you hear this from? Not that it's impossible or anything, but I'd be very surprised to see the coach getting a prize share as large as one of the players. That's generous!
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Fnatic's gonna reveal Icefrog's identity.
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On June 28 2014 08:39 teapoted wrote:
Is Valve dumb enough to say they will release all the info and not release all the info? I doubt it.
So are they going to release info between them and Era?
That doesn't really solve anything since again, this is between them and Valve.
This stopped being between them and Valve the moment they decided the company is working explicitly against them.
Idk man, spicing up the drama is such a fucking bad idea, it's not like Valve has released all the info just to spite them, yet they seem to take it like a bitch slap (if anything, cArn's responses sound passive-aggressive). They are going down so quickly Titanic would be proud.
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On June 28 2014 08:43 Gosi wrote:
Fnatic's gonna reveal Icefrog's identity.
now that's transparency
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 28 2014 08:43 Gosi wrote:
Fnatic's gonna reveal Icefrog's identity.
oshi-
such transparency
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On June 28 2014 08:42 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 08:11 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 28 2014 07:56 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 06:33 Erasme wrote:On June 28 2014 05:52 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:28 Sn0_Man wrote:On June 28 2014 05:26 Jaaaaasper wrote:On June 28 2014 05:24 PassiveAce wrote:On June 28 2014 05:18 teapoted wrote:On June 28 2014 05:16 PassiveAce wrote:
I think its lame for fnatic to seek valves blessing for a replacement after era indicated that he wanted to play, but its not that dickish in the context of era being flaky lately. That's not what I'm referring to. I'm saying releasing a statement, looking to cause a shitstorm (because what else would the statement do) to make them change their mind. And in that statement mentioning nothing about the fact that the reason Valve is against it is because Era said he could play. And that they apparently have no medical information saying he can't. You even have people like SunTzu. Who is apparently an idiot, but still, someone clued into the scene. Tweet about how angry he was that Valve didn't think Mental Illness was serious because why wouldn't they give him the same treatment as Fear. Obviously a stupid thing to say, but that's the kind of sentiment you brew when you don't tell the truth. Blatant misrepresentation. ~ I don't think there's anything wrong with Fnatic wanting to play with another player. If they should be allowed to or if they handled that situation properly is another question, but I don't think that's 'dickish' at all. hm. if fnatic released the statement for the purpose of getting people to complain to valve on their behalf then that is super lame. But im not sure we can be certain that was their intent. Yes we can. Going to reddit it like that has only one purpose, to whip up a lynch mob to get what you want. No other reason to release that bullshit statement. Ummm, apparently posting a press release on your website is now "Going to reddit" okay dude. Like no matter what they do you can construe it as "going to reddit" by that criteria. They literally just said "hey this is whats up: we want to play with excalibur because we can't use era properly, he isn't mentally well. Valve wont let us. We sad". And no, you can't contest that "But era is fine" when he can't practice all summer, and "was fine" for DH bucharest too. Edit: holy shit jaaasper calm the fuck down. you have some weird ass ideas about all the organizations. Well given that they excluded a ton of very relevant things in that statement, such as that they had kicked him despite the fact that he was cleared to play, I'm pretty certain that statement was purely intended to whip up a lynch mob, and you have some weird ass ideas about how the world works if you don't realize that. And why do you think nar choose navi? Because eg offered them a deal with only a cut of the prizepool as a one tourney deal, rather than the sponsorship they give their main team. Liquid doesn't take a cut, EG doesn't take a cut from their main team, Navi doesn't take a cut, alliance doesn't take a cut. I can't think of a single western sponsor who takes a cut of players winnings that is held as one of the top organizations to play for. Sponsors who do that tend to get their teams or players poached by the teams I just mentioned. Era was fine for most of the summer, fnatic had just kicked him because they thought that excalibur gave them a better shot at winning based on talent. i cant believe how dumb you are. Arstyle left navi cuz he didnt want to give them a cut of his winnings but suuuuure keep arguing like you had any idea Well given that their contract with Nar'vi doesn't take a cut, and liquid/eg/allinace still don't take a cut, I can't believe how dumb you are. but suuuuuuurrrrrrree keep flaming me like you know anything Actually EG is split 7 ways now. Just fyi. 5 players 1 org 1 coach I remember you saying this is Fear's thread. Where did you hear this from? Not that it's impossible or anything, but I'd be very surprised to see the coach getting a prize share as large as one of the players. That's generous!
Monolith said this in a dota radio episode when they were talking about fears condition.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Uh oh, man this is like high stakes chess game
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EPT
