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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 27 2014 23:50 GMT
#115561
in the next episode of DotA Shore, things are getting "real transparent". Will Era get kicked out of the house? Is Icefrog behind the closet door? What will house Fnatic say? Questions will be answered, drama will be real, are you ready?
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 23:57:02
June 27 2014 23:56 GMT
#115562
Are you kidding me ?! Fnatic need to stop before they get disqualified
我是冠军
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
June 28 2014 00:10 GMT
#115563
So after spending basically the last week raging in games with mixed results (looong winning streak when I just vented in skype to my stack, almost as long losing streak when I chose to be an asshole and call people out) I decided to be nice for a game. We won my earth spirit daily (thank god), I had a good time and got rewarded with a nice drop and good next daily at the end.

I'm not shocked at all but this was a nice jolt to remind me that being an asshole is completely useless.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 28 2014 00:18 GMT
#115564
On June 28 2014 09:10 blobrus wrote:
So after spending basically the last week raging in games with mixed results (looong winning streak when I just vented in skype to my stack, almost as long losing streak when I chose to be an asshole and call people out) I decided to be nice for a game. We won my earth spirit daily (thank god), I had a good time and got rewarded with a nice drop and good next daily at the end.

I'm not shocked at all but this was a nice jolt to remind me that being an asshole is completely useless.

Key thing about DotA its not skill that wins you games, its positivity.
Remember that young one, I havent lost a game since
我是冠军
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 00:19 GMT
#115565
Just drafted a strategy from EG's playbook. Tide, OD, SK, Mirana, and Rubick. Rubick's not generally what they'd run there, but hey, it's the same strategy as they love to run. Worked extremely well, I'm happy to say. Tidehunter is feeling more and more like the default offlane for this version.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 28 2014 00:20 GMT
#115566
That reminds me, what game did EG draft offlane void?! I would like to see it and study it
我是冠军
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 00:21 GMT
#115567
There are tons. You can also go and look for every game that DK drafted Void. They give him to Ice^3.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 28 2014 00:22 GMT
#115568
On June 28 2014 09:21 Acritter wrote:
There are tons. You can also go and look for every game that DK drafted Void. They give him to Ice^3.

The most recent games though? I dont know where the VoDs are for those games
我是冠军
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 00:23 GMT
#115569
All the DK games of late are on the BTS Youtube channel.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 28 2014 00:30 GMT
#115570
On June 28 2014 07:58 Erasme wrote:
Lmao. Clearly if you werent right before, then you must be right now.
I mean your friends in nadota totally told u everything lel

Or I was right the whole time and you're just a gibbering idiot.

And where did you get that idea from dude who thinks its going 7 ways?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 00:35:39
June 28 2014 00:31 GMT
#115571
I had some good amount of success playing offlane Void. Grab a stout, 8 tangos, chill in lane, time walk out of danger and build the stout into a PMS to keep sustain.

All you really need to have to start having an impact is treads, MoM and maybe an aquila which is what Universe does every single game to start being able to solo kill anyone in a chrono. Before I get to that point, I usually just run around the map and start helping by chronoing the enemy midlaner or another important target that i can help a teammate with and once you get to the point where you have decent farm, the enemy team usually has to commit kind of a lot into taking you down and since you're an offlaner, you're just creating space for the real carry.

I didn't find there was much to study but i was pretty surprised how well it works for the most part. If the enemy safe lane doesn't push your tower down before your level 6, it's pretty dangerous to push into a tower knowing a chrono is up as long as you dont catch your own tower with it so that's something else I kind of played around with.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 00:34 GMT
#115572
The PMS->Treads+Aquila->MoM build is what Ice^3 runs too, for reference. The key to the build is landing good Chronos, unsurprisingly.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 00:49:39
June 28 2014 00:48 GMT
#115573
The thing that surprised me the most was that Void has pretty good base stats and for the most part being able to time walk away allows me into playing really greedy.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 00:52 GMT
#115574
Calling it now. When the Void nerf comes, it's going to be his base damage.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 28 2014 00:59 GMT
#115575
On June 28 2014 09:34 Acritter wrote:
The PMS->Treads+Aquila->MoM build is what Ice^3 runs too, for reference. The key to the build is landing good Chronos, unsurprisingly.


don't most offlane voids try to run a quick aghs because they know that they are not the primary dmg dealer when they are going offlane?
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 01:08:27
June 28 2014 01:00 GMT
#115576
On June 28 2014 08:42 teapoted wrote:
Although that tweet, as much as I like carn as an old-school CS fan, shows how he's an immature kid who shouldn't be in the position he's in. And he only is because it's the eSports kids pool. That's not how you respond to this.


Jesus christ mate. It's not fucking rocket science.

It's fascinating how dumb some people in high positions of eSports are.

You don't need PR training to figure out that this is a bad thing to say
Once you Goblak...
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 01:04:12
June 28 2014 01:02 GMT
#115577
On June 28 2014 09:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 09:34 Acritter wrote:
The PMS->Treads+Aquila->MoM build is what Ice^3 runs too, for reference. The key to the build is landing good Chronos, unsurprisingly.


don't most offlane voids try to run a quick aghs because they know that they are not the primary dmg dealer when they are going offlane?


solo killing chrono early/mid game >>> 60s cooldown + .5/1 sec duration boost at lvl 11/16 imo. you can always get an aghs later after you get a farming tool or bkb depending on situation. gotta abuse that window where people are still super squishy and time lock damage is strongest
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 28 2014 01:17 GMT
#115578
On June 28 2014 09:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 09:34 Acritter wrote:
The PMS->Treads+Aquila->MoM build is what Ice^3 runs too, for reference. The key to the build is landing good Chronos, unsurprisingly.


don't most offlane voids try to run a quick aghs because they know that they are not the primary dmg dealer when they are going offlane?

The items I listed are all extremely cheap and can be built very early on into the game, allowing Void to do a significant amount of work creating space. Aghs takes a lot longer to build and scales very well into the lategame. You're not trying to hit timings with that item.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 28 2014 01:20 GMT
#115579
I think the decision of going aghs at all on Void should be decided on whether you have a team that works well with it. I mean sure i'll probably think about getting it if there's an AA, Witch Doctor or whatever on my team but if there's not a hero that synergizes well with chrono, why on earth would i get aghs if i can go mjollnir?
Sagamantha
Profile Joined September 2011
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 01:28:10
June 28 2014 01:22 GMT
#115580
Please, for the love of our Lord Gaben and his savior comeh, don't build aghs. Aghanims flowchart would look like this: are you a pro? Can you team help? -> get aghs; if anything else, don't get aghs.

edit: forgot his savior.
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