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Im still kind of confused
can someone explain to me what the actual difference between auto attack on or off is ?
and where does Stop and hold position play into this
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hold position and how could u possibly not get that
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 18 2014 22:58 KDot2 wrote:
Im still kind of confused
can someone explain to me what the actual difference between auto attack on or off is ?
and where does Stop and hold position play into this
auto attack on: your hero automatically attacks
auto attack off: it doesnt
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On June 18 2014 22:58 KDot2 wrote:
Im still kind of confused
can someone explain to me what the actual difference between auto attack on or off is ?
and where does Stop and hold position play into this
Auto attack on, your character will always try to attack if something is in range. Hold position seems to ensure your character doesn't move, but they will still attack something in range (ie. if they're ranged). Stop stops whatever action you're doing, be it attack, or spell cast. You can't stopcast with hold position.
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On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:18 ahswtini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:10 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 18:59 SkelA wrote:On June 18 2014 18:56 ScarPe wrote:
no commentary is worse than LD and GoDs nowadays.
hoping for toby + draskyl in the grand finals of the intertional 4. Read the last page. Draskyl is not coming to TI4. Yeah, I don't understand why Because he apparently wasn't happy with what he was offered to cast. I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today.
I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\
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On June 18 2014 23:26 Ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:18 ahswtini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:10 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 18:59 SkelA wrote:
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Read the last page. Draskyl is not coming to TI4. Yeah, I don't understand why Because he apparently wasn't happy with what he was offered to cast. I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today. I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\
Draskyl is not casting any of TI4.
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btw do we know anything more about the arrow visa situation yet?
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Last update was that valve and Malaysian ministry of youth were going to help them iirc. With such supports no news is good news I suppose.
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Pretty impressive that it takes up to 7 minutes for safe to leave abandonment if someone doesn't pick their hero at the start.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On June 19 2014 00:43 Grettin wrote:
Pretty impressive that it takes up to 7 minutes for safe to leave abandonment if someone doesn't pick their hero at the start.
I thought they only get around 3 minutes from creep spawn, because of the way the 5 minute no experience abandonment works
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Australia1278 Posts
On June 18 2014 23:30 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 23:26 Ayaz2810 wrote:On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:18 ahswtini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
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Yeah, I don't understand why Because he apparently wasn't happy with what he was offered to cast. I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today. I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\ Draskyl is not casting any of TI4.
Were any reasons given as to why Draskyl wasn't invited?
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On June 19 2014 01:09 tauon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 23:30 Comeh wrote:On June 18 2014 23:26 Ayaz2810 wrote:On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:18 ahswtini wrote:
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Because he apparently wasn't happy with what he was offered to cast. I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today. I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\ Draskyl is not casting any of TI4. Were any reasons given as to why Draskyl wasn't invited?
He was invited. Draskyl's ego is just too gigantic to accept anything less than main event matches. He declined on some sort of 'principal'. He voluntarily excluded himself from the biggest DOTA2 and ESPORTS event in the history of competitive gaming, because 'HE' deserved more.
tl;dr he's a fucking twathead and needs a reality check.
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On June 19 2014 01:09 tauon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 23:30 Comeh wrote:On June 18 2014 23:26 Ayaz2810 wrote:On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:18 ahswtini wrote:
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Because he apparently wasn't happy with what he was offered to cast. I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today. I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\ Draskyl is not casting any of TI4. Were any reasons given as to why Draskyl wasn't invited?
He was invited to cast the group stages, but not the main event. So he declined thinking he is worthy of casting both.
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On June 18 2014 21:15 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 20:30 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 20:17 BurningSera wrote:On June 18 2014 20:07 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:55 BurningSera wrote:
You tend to not want to skill kraken shield in early game because a stoutshield is almost equivalent to lvl2 kraken shield (just sell it when you got >lvl2 kraken).
The sickening part is that pub finally realized anchor smash is the best spell of tide in early game, bad support with you means the hardlane tide will get farm (and hurt your farm with anchor). You dont need more than 2 points in anchor to get farm reliably in the offlane. Its far better to max kraken and skip the stout since it also lets you get your spells off more reliably. You only need 1 level of kraken to 'get your spells off more reliably', 600dmg at lvl1 to 450dmg in lvl4 is a no brainer, a 250gold stoutshield is a much better deal so that you can take more early gush/anchor levels. just sell the shield whenever you are around lvl11, which is like around or later than 15mins into the game; take kraken earlier if you needed that item slot, if you are not too fat your function is literally just to get the ult off and anchor the core heroes. There is a pretty big difference between kraken and stout; anchor is -60% at level one anyway. The 2 levels in anchor allow you to get uncontested last hits in lane because no one has ~100 base damage. I would rather get an urn to tank up than waste gold on a stout. I dont think we are conflicting on the anchor smash part; and if you are not buying stoutshield at the very beginning then dont buy it then, i didnt suggest to get one when you are like lvl3/4 on lane after boots etc. I am simply emphasizing on the timing where you can have 3-0-2 or 2-0-3 with stoutshield you can do some nice ganking or own the lane harder before lvl7 since the damage from gush/anchor are preferably to be used in early game. Imagine one maxes anchor using 1-2-4-1, then you might as well get a stoutshield and go 3-0-4-1, way more aggressive and utilizing that early nuke from gush. Otherwise 1-4-1-1 for some very tanky tide build but if you cant make use of that tankiness in early (you need some form of nuke or dps to help to kill which is hard to come by in early game) then you get wasted opportunity for not leveling gush/anchor. Urn/mek are not related in this context because when you get focused down you just die (in early), when your team is ahead then you are harder to be killed either way. Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 20:31 Qbek wrote:
With maxed kraken by 7 you will take ZERO damage from autoattacks from anyone affected by anchor smash. It is actually retarded if the oppos get anchored and still focus tide with their dps then the game is retarded either way...
The draw of the 3 points in Kraken early is that you can farm ancients without taking damage. This opens up a lot more farm overall for your team because there are very few heroes who can farm ancients this early. You don't care about the lack of damage because you didn't pick tidehunter to gank (although it is very easy to underestimate how good anchor smash is early on). You want him to get that fast blink dagger so he can get off anchorsmash/ravage and win teamfights.
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Australia1278 Posts
On June 19 2014 01:11 TheEmulator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 01:09 tauon wrote:On June 18 2014 23:30 Comeh wrote:On June 18 2014 23:26 Ayaz2810 wrote:On June 18 2014 20:48 teapoted wrote:On June 18 2014 19:56 Targe wrote:On June 18 2014 19:43 Spicy_Curry wrote:On June 18 2014 19:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:On June 18 2014 19:30 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 18 2014 19:23 Spicy_Curry wrote:
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I doubt he gets invited next year tbh. Its not a good idea to give the developer of the game that you base your living off an ultimatum. In what world is that a good idea. He can be replaced so its not a big deal. I just think it looks narrow-minded to decline something over money (why even mention that publicly - if he did) in the face of one of the most press-covered events in eSports (off-hand speaking). Plus, it's an event to celebrate eSports and Dota 2; to decline it over money is just something against the current of this subculture. My understanding was that it's because he was only offered to cast the group stage, and not the main event. Nothing to do with money. Personally I think he's one of the better casters at the moment but doesn't mesh well Didnt tobi do something similar in 2012 and valve took the grandfinals from him? Point being, Tobi was the face of dota at that time and valve was not afraid to bench him. isnt there a huge difference between 2012 tobi and draksyl though Yeah this isn't really the same story, although the hubris is similar in the "I'm better than this". At the same time you could say Tobi was worse because they obviously agreed to cast and then didn't follow protocol after. Tobi in 2012 was a significantly bigger deal though than Draskyl or anyone else is today. I didn't even know who draskyl was until dream league. I kept referring to him as the american guy who sounds like destiny from sc2 and seems to have a bad attitude. He seems really.... Argumentative when he casts. Its weird though cause I watched his stream yesterday and he seems like a pretty chill guy. I hope he's not casting a lot of ti4 =\ Draskyl is not casting any of TI4. Were any reasons given as to why Draskyl wasn't invited? He was invited to cast the group stages, but not the main event. So he declined thinking he is worthy of casting both.
Thanks.
Making enemies and turning down a free trip to TI4 :S Good luck getting invited to TI5.
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I think technically all we know is that he got some sort of invite and declined it because he felt that he couldn't accept such a small role. We don't know exactly what he was invited to do, speculation is indeed that he was invited to cast only the preliminaries.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Prelims are a much bigger deal this year than last as well.
I mean they will have a proper production with casters on site. Never had that before.
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did we break 9.6 yet?
E: nvm we did yay amazing etc. I hope its just "win with every hero" not "win with every hero in order" 
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Check your compendium.
And yes.
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I got the impression that draskyl wasn't allowed to cast the main stage, which means he was allowed/scheduled to cast everything else.
judging from the format, this simply means he gets to cast any number of games between phase 1-3, which is honestly a bunch of exposure any way you look at it
remember boys pride is one of the seven deadly sins
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