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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2014 18:04 GMT
#114181
Look, they are taking their supports for granted. I am showing them a world without wards and how limited their farming options can be. Then they will appericate the wards when I buy them after my mek is finished.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 18 2014 18:08 GMT
#114182
On June 19 2014 03:04 Plansix wrote:
Look, they are taking their supports for granted. I am showing them a world without wards and how limited their farming options can be. Then they will appericate the wards when I buy them after my mek is finished.

Forget mek, buy midas, it will pay for many meks and wards to come
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 18:12:21
June 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#114183
New meta, supports forgo wards till Midas. It's investing in the future and beyond. New Omi knight strat. Midas into mek into aghs to refresher. At that point he is to big to fail.

I call it the Bank of America build. It's so much fail it goes full circle and become successful again.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 18 2014 18:19 GMT
#114184
well you cant really buy that many wards since the buytime nerf so midas is the way, just bully the other supportive hero to get the wards for the first 15mins.

i am not being mean or something, is how icefrog wants us to play the game like that lol

obviously get that damn flying cour/ward when you got an early kill as a support, you dont want to piss off karma god in dota.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 18 2014 18:21 GMT
#114185
[image loading]

Crushed, been a long time since I got to completely crush a team!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 18:22:05
June 18 2014 18:21 GMT
#114186
On June 19 2014 02:35 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 02:21 Targe wrote:
[image loading]

lmao 1 game, this is gonna be easier to farm than earthbinds

On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.


i havent bought wards at all recently because im trying to get better at actually supporting with spells and shit, i always used to think i was doing great because we had vision and shit but in reality i was just walking gold for the other team.

Or you could do both instead of using the extra gold from not buying wards as a crutch.

its not the gold, its the thinking about placing wards, it seriously affects me
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 18 2014 18:31 GMT
#114187
Often times wards will help you catch people though
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#114188
On June 19 2014 03:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
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Crushed, been a long time since I got to completely crush a team!

why do you have a wand on pl
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#114189
On June 19 2014 03:19 BurningSera wrote:
just bully the other supportive hero to get the wards for the first 15mins.

what other support dude these don't exist in my pubs
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 18:34 GMT
#114190
On June 19 2014 03:31 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Often times wards will help you catch people though

warding only gets me caught out
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 18 2014 19:02 GMT
#114191
On June 19 2014 03:34 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 03:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Crushed, been a long time since I got to completely crush a team!

why do you have a wand on pl

Judging by his CS, kill count, and lack of Radiance, I'd guess he was in enough early fights for it to be worth it.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 18 2014 19:02 GMT
#114192
On June 19 2014 04:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 03:34 andyrau wrote:
On June 19 2014 03:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Crushed, been a long time since I got to completely crush a team!

why do you have a wand on pl

Judging by his CS, kill count, and lack of Radiance, I'd guess he was in enough early fights for it to be worth it.

By that point, at TP slot would be good though.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 18 2014 19:06 GMT
#114193
Of course, but at the point where he's going throne, who cares.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 18 2014 19:09 GMT
#114194
It's just a bit odd not seeing a single TP in the whole game, even if it's an endgame screen
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 18 2014 19:25 GMT
#114195
well my point was why bother upgrading your stick to a wand but whatever
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 18 2014 19:28 GMT
#114196
Since we're dick measuring, http://dotabuff.com/matches/688752214 this is my favorite recent game I've played. Position 5, ward bitch, single support (other 'support' was jungle doom) witchdoctor. Bought wards, smoke ganked mid and got most hero damage in the whole 55 minute game, more than a 6 slot rapier medusa. Supports (and witchdoctors especially) win games.
super gg
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 19:28:46
June 18 2014 19:28 GMT
#114197
On June 19 2014 03:21 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 02:35 Acritter wrote:
On June 19 2014 02:21 Targe wrote:
[image loading]

lmao 1 game, this is gonna be easier to farm than earthbinds

On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.


i havent bought wards at all recently because im trying to get better at actually supporting with spells and shit, i always used to think i was doing great because we had vision and shit but in reality i was just walking gold for the other team.

Or you could do both instead of using the extra gold from not buying wards as a crutch.

its not the gold, its the thinking about placing wards, it seriously affects me

Huh. I don't get that so much. That's probably more what you need to focus on: balancing support priorities. The rest of what a support needs to do can be practiced effectively in the offlane (not feeding and casting stuff).
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 18 2014 19:28 GMT
#114198
its quite useful when you got 3 branch and are fighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 19:32 GMT
#114199
On June 19 2014 04:28 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 03:21 Targe wrote:
On June 19 2014 02:35 Acritter wrote:
On June 19 2014 02:21 Targe wrote:
[image loading]

lmao 1 game, this is gonna be easier to farm than earthbinds

On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.


i havent bought wards at all recently because im trying to get better at actually supporting with spells and shit, i always used to think i was doing great because we had vision and shit but in reality i was just walking gold for the other team.

Or you could do both instead of using the extra gold from not buying wards as a crutch.

its not the gold, its the thinking about placing wards, it seriously affects me

Huh. I don't get that so much. That's probably more what you need to focus on: balancing support priorities. The rest of what a support needs to do can be practiced effectively in the offlane (not feeding and casting stuff).

ive been playing more offlane (windrunner) and jungle supports (enigma, enchant) whenever i can (unless ive been trying to win at all costs), ive been avoiding playing lane supports
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 19:37 GMT
#114200
Isn't Enchantress one of the premier wardbitches? She can farm up ward gold in a flash, and is going to want to be running around the map anyway.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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