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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 16:54 GMT
#114161
So is not buying wards as a support.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 17:01 GMT
#114162
On June 19 2014 01:54 Acritter wrote:
So is not buying wards as a support.

id take a support not buying wards with a small amount of capability over one who buys wards and says 'hey im supporting!' and just fucking fails
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 17:02 GMT
#114163
Define a small amount of capability. Because for the small amount I'm thinking, it would honestly better for the guy to just sit in fountain and spend his clock gold on obs, sentries, and smokes for the team to use.

Lack of vision is fucking killer.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#114164
On June 19 2014 01:54 Acritter wrote:
So is not buying wards as a support.

Actually I'd consider that greed in the terms of a carry. They have the gold and yet aren't using it to benefit the team over themselves.

Greed / Capitalist scum etc etc
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#114165
On June 19 2014 01:53 andyrau wrote:
I got the impression that draskyl wasn't allowed to cast the main stage, which means he was allowed/scheduled to cast everything else.
judging from the format, this simply means he gets to cast any number of games between phase 1-3, which is honestly a bunch of exposure any way you look at it


remember boys pride is one of the seven deadly sins

I honestly feel no pity for someone who declines an invite to TI.

Like, holy shit, how big is your ego if you decline working at the biggest esports event.. EVER?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 17:05 GMT
#114166
On June 19 2014 02:02 Acritter wrote:
Define a small amount of capability. Because for the small amount I'm thinking, it would honestly better for the guy to just sit in fountain and spend his clock gold on obs, sentries, and smokes for the team to use.

Lack of vision is fucking killer.

small amount of capability = pressing buttons

i can buy the wards myself if i want them, 3 last hits is nothing for someone whos farming
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2014 17:12 GMT
#114167
Exactly, the cost of wards is nothing compaired to the cost of placing them. I'll buy wards for my support before I go without.

And the there are the carries that don't use the wards you buy or just farm in places where you didn't put them.

Or carrys that don't buy drums and then get obliterated by Lina because they have no HP and whine because no one is backing them up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 17:13 GMT
#114168
If they're in your fountain they're not feeding.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 18 2014 17:14 GMT
#114169
yes thats why you see burning buy all the wards
cause 3 last hits aren't that big of a deal to him
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 17:16 GMT
#114170
On June 19 2014 02:14 andyrau wrote:
yes thats why you see burning buy all the wards
cause 3 last hits aren't that big of a deal to him

because pubs are the same as an organised game
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 17:21:21
June 18 2014 17:19 GMT
#114171
On June 19 2014 02:14 andyrau wrote:
yes thats why you see burning buy all the wards
cause 3 last hits aren't that big of a deal to him

Whoa son, what games are you playing. This isn't some Dream League shit, we are in pub dota, where we are greatful that wards are placed at all.

On June 19 2014 02:13 Acritter wrote:
If they're in your fountain they're not feeding.


If they are not out there making space, you can't farm either.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 17:19 GMT
#114172
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 17:23:06
June 18 2014 17:21 GMT
#114173
[image loading]

lmao 1 game, this is gonna be easier to farm than earthbinds

On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.


i havent bought wards at all recently because im trying to get better at actually supporting with spells and shit, i always used to think i was doing great because we had vision and shit but in reality i was just walking gold for the other team.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 18 2014 17:22 GMT
#114174
don't buy wards
buy gamesense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 18 2014 17:24 GMT
#114175
On June 19 2014 02:22 Erasme wrote:
don't buy wards
buy gamesense

im still trying to afford brain
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2014 17:25 GMT
#114176
On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.

I am a support that has refused to buy wards for idiot carrys that don't listen or back up when the team tells them they are going to get ganked. I can't make them smart and I'm better of rushing mek or some other team based item that will get is through the game.

Remember, your first set of wards will tell you if you should ever buy wards again.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 17:35 GMT
#114177
On June 19 2014 02:21 Targe wrote:
[image loading]

lmao 1 game, this is gonna be easier to farm than earthbinds

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 02:19 Acritter wrote:
And let's be frank. Not buying wards isn't so much the problem as it is symptomatic of a greater problem. If your supports are refusing to ward, they probably don't have the mindset of a support and your team will suffer because of it.


i havent bought wards at all recently because im trying to get better at actually supporting with spells and shit, i always used to think i was doing great because we had vision and shit but in reality i was just walking gold for the other team.

Or you could do both instead of using the extra gold from not buying wards as a crutch.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 18 2014 17:46 GMT
#114178
well idk what kind of people you guys get matched up with but in all of my games I've had at least one person warding/doing 5 stuff

wards/detection benefit you as much as it benefits your team, why be vindictive?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 17:53:30
June 18 2014 17:51 GMT
#114179
On June 19 2014 02:46 andyrau wrote:
well idk what kind of people you guys get matched up with but in all of my games I've had at least one person warding/doing 5 stuff

wards/detection benefit you as much as it benefits your team, why be vindictive?

I alway buy wards until I make the decision that my team isn't looking at the mini map. But even whe I am a carry I buy dust or even sentries if I need detection. Playing the 5 role in a pub game can be super hard if no one has your back and sometimes you are better off spreading out the cost of team based items and gettig that guy some farm.

Just yesterday I played slark and upgraded te courier because it needed to happen. My supports were doing their thing and warding, but we needed the crow.

And it's not vindictive, it's making the decision your team mates are not using the gold you spent.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 18 2014 17:58 GMT
#114180
It says something if you aren't benefiting from the wards either.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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