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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 07 2012 17:43 GMT
#10101
you get 0 bars when you dont play a hero for a while anyway so no need to feel bad, I have 0 bars on viper :D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 07 2012 17:47 GMT
#10102
You also have 0 bars on heroes that you played before they introduced performance rating, but haven't played since. The game only tracks performance in games after that patch, but still keeps record of games from before.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 07 2012 18:04 GMT
#10103
On May 07 2012 17:23 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 14:22 cilinder007 wrote:
I think you just need a lot of games on a hero to get a lot of bars, I went like 20-0 with qop one game and it barely gave me any bars but after like 20 games with her now I have almost full bars even though not every game is so good


not really, I got almost 5 bars with Clock with only 1 game since the thing was introduced


it depends on how much the hero is played

less played = smaller sample size = higher score
High Risk Low Reward
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 07 2012 18:08 GMT
#10104
Played 2 games as Ursa yesterday (both random) and I had my performance bar drop from ~4.85 to ~4.7.

Game 1: KDA 8-0-12 //// CS 132/1 //// 565 gpm //// 667 xpm //// 30 minute game

Game 2: KDA 11-0-12 //// CS 181/1 //// 519 gpm //// 618 xpm //// 39 minute game

Losing bars because of my poor performance... makes sense.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 18:10 GMT
#10105
Yeah anything below 15 kills on ursa is unacceptable, didn't you know?
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 07 2012 18:12 GMT
#10106
I'm ashamed of my poor performance... I will do better next time. :[
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 18:13 GMT
#10107
Bur seriously now, this might actually be slightly below average for ursa in some MMR ranges
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:15:10
May 07 2012 18:14 GMT
#10108
What if actually the range is just decided on the average scores of the hero? 3 being the average, and 5 anything better than 50% over the average KDA CS, Denies , GPM ward boughts etc...
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 07 2012 18:19 GMT
#10109
On May 08 2012 02:39 Dankleteer wrote:
I am rather embarrassed to admit, but I actually have a hero at zero bars....

It was my second game of dota ever OKAY? A Clinkz, bringing in a killer 172 gpm.

I played Lich for 30 games straight afterwards. Noobstories.


Heroes you played before the performance bars have been added to the game are 0 bar.
No relation to your performance. Every hero will get close to 2 bar for your first game, even if you played horribly.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 07 2012 18:34 GMT
#10110
On May 08 2012 02:36 BlitzerSC wrote:
Can someone explain how chinese players rate heroes ?
The only thing I know is that they don't use words like "support", "carry", "initiator", ecc.

Don't they rate them in farm priority ? Or maybe I misunderstood you ^^

How does one build or play clockwerk nowadays ? :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 18:37:14
May 07 2012 18:35 GMT
#10111
I feel much better now, thank you TLers, but I will still avoid clinkz like the plague.

I've been trying out Leshrac lately and having a blast, I love getting bloodstone on him but I'm trying to figure out a good general item build for him. I started out getting a bracer and an null talisman but I think that delays the Bloodstone too much, and I can't think of any cheaper builds that give me the mana regen necessary to dish out damage.
fresh chops
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 07 2012 18:37 GMT
#10112
We might see CWM in Darer. Today's Dignitas match versus M5 got forfeited because of "roster issues" and comewithme is scrimming with God, ArtStyle, Black and Lacoste against CLG mix right now. Someone in chat asked him if he was gonna join them and he said:
"Broadcaster comewithme: maybe
Broadcaster comewithme: wait and see
^^"
What do you think? I quite like how the european and CIS scenes are starting to mix now, it never really happened in the past and we could get some exciting teams out of this.
super gg
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 07 2012 18:38 GMT
#10113
I would love to see CWM on Darer, but I don't think he is as strong a support as either NS or Santa. But I like the look of that lineup.
fresh chops
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 07 2012 18:40 GMT
#10114
On May 08 2012 03:38 Dankleteer wrote:
I would love to see CWM on Darer, but I don't think he is as strong a support as either NS or Santa. But I like the look of that lineup.

Artystyle is played as support in last 5 matches.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#10115
I start to wonder if the valve announcement about no roster changes after invitation to the international didn't shake up the scene, completely destroying any team that was not stable. You can see quite a bit of changes now, mybe they want to sort it now, before the invitations are sent? Or that's just coincidence.
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Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#10116
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports.
fresh chops
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 07 2012 18:49 GMT
#10117
On May 08 2012 03:42 Dankleteer wrote:
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports.

Darer is pretty much dead atm.

NS is the best support player in foreign scene.
Utaheka
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark124 Posts
May 07 2012 18:52 GMT
#10118
On May 08 2012 03:49 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:42 Dankleteer wrote:
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports.

Darer is pretty much dead atm.

NS is the best support player in foreign scene.

Wrong. you think he's the best support in the foreign scene.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 07 2012 18:55 GMT
#10119
On May 08 2012 03:49 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:42 Dankleteer wrote:
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports.

Darer is pretty much dead atm.

NS is the best support player in foreign scene.


How is that even relevant to the post you quoted???
super gg
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 07 2012 18:58 GMT
#10120
Well I'm definitely no expert on the pro scene, just a casual spectator, but I don't think Darer is dead. Players are moving around so much I think they can land a couple of skilled, experienced guys, and with G and ArtStyle at the core it will be a solid team, maybe not as strong as the previous lineup but I personally never count ArtStyle out.
fresh chops
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