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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 07 2012 13:29 GMT
#10081
I think they might use cs for carries because I keep getting higher bars with pl even when I lose
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 13:30 GMT
#10082
On May 07 2012 22:29 cilinder007 wrote:
I think they might use cs for carries because I keep getting higher bars with pl even when I lose

Well thats how you rate a carry , right?
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 07 2012 13:33 GMT
#10083
Gankers are based on k/d/a then, if we're following that logic + my performance bars on NS/Clock.
ffxiv enjoyer
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
May 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#10084
What are you even meant to do on drow ranger? she feels completely outclassed and useless.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#10085
On May 07 2012 23:00 rob.au wrote:
What are you even meant to do on drow ranger? she feels completely outclassed and useless.

1. Don't pick her
2. If 1 is somehow failed, just go pure damage, farm for X minutes where X depends on your team composition.
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 07 2012 14:05 GMT
#10086
just farm with her, early game is almost not important at all but ofc you dont want to die but you shouldnt be running around ganking, the most important thing is farming in the midgame and never dying, get manta, bkb, hotd (in order depending on the game) and dmg items from there, after you have your items rightclick on any hero and watch him die in a second
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 07 2012 14:22 GMT
#10087
Anyone else not liking where this whole "performance bar" thing is going...?
(everyone obsessing/bragging/only caring about it?)
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 14:25 GMT
#10088
On May 07 2012 23:22 Comeh wrote:
Anyone else not liking where this whole "performance bar" thing is going...?
(everyone obsessing/bragging/only caring about it?)

I happen to not see this "thing", really happy here :D I mean, I always play a lot of heroes so I have like 30 hero bars barely above 2 and I don't give a shit. I sometimes look there to see how it changes to maybe sometimes help improve it but that's it.
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 15:20:10
May 07 2012 15:19 GMT
#10089
On May 07 2012 23:00 rob.au wrote:
What are you even meant to do on drow ranger? she feels completely outclassed and useless.


get boots to start out with, and orbwalk / auto-attack harass to victory. She could use a bigger / better ultimate though. Poor mans sniper at this rate, thought the silence is handy.
"Mudkip"
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 07 2012 15:28 GMT
#10090
On May 07 2012 23:25 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 23:22 Comeh wrote:
Anyone else not liking where this whole "performance bar" thing is going...?
(everyone obsessing/bragging/only caring about it?)

I happen to not see this "thing", really happy here :D I mean, I always play a lot of heroes so I have like 30 hero bars barely above 2 and I don't give a shit. I sometimes look there to see how it changes to maybe sometimes help improve it but that's it.


I think I'll like it if it ends up being a reasonably good measure (unlikely, but we can hope). It may help combat the DotA god complex where newbies think they're amazing, especially those that think they're amazing by ignoring their team completely.
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
May 07 2012 15:40 GMT
#10091
On May 08 2012 00:28 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 23:25 Qbek wrote:
On May 07 2012 23:22 Comeh wrote:
Anyone else not liking where this whole "performance bar" thing is going...?
(everyone obsessing/bragging/only caring about it?)

I happen to not see this "thing", really happy here :D I mean, I always play a lot of heroes so I have like 30 hero bars barely above 2 and I don't give a shit. I sometimes look there to see how it changes to maybe sometimes help improve it but that's it.


I think I'll like it if it ends up being a reasonably good measure (unlikely, but we can hope). It may help combat the DotA god complex where newbies think they're amazing, especially those that think they're amazing by ignoring their team completely.

Not a chance, if the system works as intended those people will just rage about how the system is unfair, and in reality they deserve at least 5 bars.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 15:52:35
May 07 2012 15:52 GMT
#10092
I'd rather hear them rage about that than about how it's your fault when they get ganked by enemies who walked by your team's wards or that their 300GPM as a hard carry after 10 minutes of free farm is also your fault.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 07 2012 15:56 GMT
#10093
On May 08 2012 00:52 Logo wrote:
I'd rather hear them rage about that than about how it's your fault when they get ganked by enemies who walked by your team's wards or that their 300GPM as a hard carry after 10 minutes of free farm is also your fault.

well, lately i've been running into people on ladder raging at their entire team, and how it's not THEIR fault they are losing because THEY have 5 bars with axe (even though they don't have mana boots, don't have blink dagger, and for reasons beyond me are building a Sceptor, because it's just a pub LOL scrub!!!!)
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
May 07 2012 15:59 GMT
#10094
Drow is very situnatinoal. say to never pick her is insanley wrong. Every hero has a use in some situation. Drow can bring down any hero with her damage and if she can get the farm she is a very strong carry.
if you can believe you can concieve
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 07 2012 16:04 GMT
#10095
It's just in pubs you rarely have the support necesary to help her even get started. Trax needs either a level or gold advantage to do shit early-midgame and loses to SO many lanes :/ I used to love her but then I started to play with people than can last hit and it was no longer fun (like 3 years ago )
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 16:12:35
May 07 2012 16:06 GMT
#10096
On May 08 2012 01:04 Qbek wrote:
It's just in pubs you rarely have the support necesary to help her even get started. Trax needs either a level or gold advantage to do shit early-midgame and loses to SO many lanes :/ I used to love her but then I started to play with people than can last hit and it was no longer fun (like 3 years ago )

Not to mention, I just feel as though there are so many hard carrys that are simply better than her (better farming, better escape mechanisms, better skillsets)

It's going to be hard for a drow to simply outcarry an Antimage merely for the fact that antimage can farm better than she can while being more difficult to gank.

Edit: that being said, she can be devastating in stomping pubs :D :D
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scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
May 07 2012 16:12 GMT
#10097
On May 07 2012 23:00 rob.au wrote:
What are you even meant to do on drow ranger? she feels completely outclassed and useless.


Drow hits a strong damage point at level 11. Farm, farm, farm survivability items until you hit 11, should be looking at getting a manta (with/against good players) or helm of the dominator (situational if you're good enough to stack ancients) or shadowblade (bad players) after treads and then bkb (against almost every team). Try to hit level 11 as soon as possible and get as far down your survival item path as you can, but then look for good situations to slay. Until you get BKB, you have to play carefully and do damage from the outskirts, but your slow/damage lend a lot to your team's damage. Each attack will be doing a couple hundred damage, and your aura will be lending a lot of damage to your team, so you don't want to be an afkfarm carry through the midgame.

Drow doesn't need a lot of items to do a ton of damage because her ult gives her that damage as a baseline. She needs survivability in the early/midgame and once you have those core items to make you hard to kill, you can pump damage via crit/mkb/rapier/bfly in the lategame. Crit + satanic is a pretty solid pub build as you can tank damage, bkb and satanic and stand in the middle of teamfights, but with/against better players going straight damage instead of lifesteal and positioning yourself correctly will be better in most cases.
Terrafros
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
May 07 2012 17:02 GMT
#10098
The joinDOTA open.

Should be fun to watch. Don't have the guts to participate in it myself. :[
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 17:37:00
May 07 2012 17:36 GMT
#10099
Can someone explain how chinese players rate heroes ?
The only thing I know is that they don't use words like "support", "carry", "initiator", ecc.
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
May 07 2012 17:39 GMT
#10100
I am rather embarrassed to admit, but I actually have a hero at zero bars....

It was my second game of dota ever OKAY? A Clinkz, bringing in a killer 172 gpm.

I played Lich for 30 games straight afterwards. Noobstories.
fresh chops
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