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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On May 07 2012 15:45 konadora wrote: i just caught this game, and oh my god this is some intense game holy cow for those who didn't watch it, WATCH IT + Show Spoiler [game thoughts] + Too many mistakes by Enigma early on. I don't know why on earth he would walk in to hit the 2nd tier mid tower when it's fortified. With Black Hole, dire would have won that fight. Later on he turns back after seeing three heroes on him at Dire's tier mid 2 and dies. Buys back, gets dagger, BKBs, and no black hole. Wasted 4k gold with two deaths. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On May 07 2012 17:36 cilinder007 wrote: then I have no idea what their metric is im willing to bet its the influential metric system. This mean that they will take the total dmg you dealt + HP healing and take that % compare to the overall dmg dealt by heroes inside the game. Sum all the average of the percentage and put it on performance bar. This explain my few first game playing chen after the bar system implemented: dealt most dmg in game due to using creep -> 5 bars. Similar to my lycan and qop etc... The thing is with this system, non-healing support will have a huge disadvantage. Idk, still testing | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
I have a couple heroes just barely below 2 bars. The way it happened though was I have a few heroes I only did 1-2 games on that were at 2 bars, and then as my MMR went up their performance slowly went down just a tiny bit. Also on PL is it better to rush radiance than go for vlads -> difusal -> manta? | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
On May 07 2012 17:51 hunts wrote: So I think someone mentioned this before somewhere, but I was curious. Is your MMR calculated only on winning/losing games? Or does your individual performance have any effect on your MMR? I have a couple heroes just barely below 2 bars. The way it happened though was I have a few heroes I only did 1-2 games on that were at 2 bars, and then as my MMR went up their performance slowly went down just a tiny bit. It does take into account your individual performance. I believe it factors in K/D/A, GPM and XPM while also comparing these relative to the rest of your team. Someone mentioned this is why Sing_Sing has the highest MMR, because he often plays with stream viewers and his stats will generally be better than his viewers. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On May 07 2012 18:05 The Great Taste wrote: It does take into account your individual performance. I believe it factors in K/D/A, GPM and XPM while also comparing these relative to the rest of your team. Someone mentioned this is why Sing_Sing has the highest MMR, because he often plays with stream viewers and his stats will generally be better than his viewers. >often plays with stream viewers no | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
He used to stream stack a lot in a period. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 07 2012 17:43 writer22816 wrote: Has anyone gotten less than 2 bars on any hero? All of mine are at least 2 bars so I think 2 bars is the minimum. What's the point of having a ranking system where the bottom-most ranking doesn't exist lol. I suppose we have to keep casual players in the game though. I do. Batrider 45 games 25% winrate, 1.9 bars. Oh wait, I lied. My bats apparently just above 2. It's huskar that's 1.9 Oh, and NB, my CM is my second highest ranked hero (over 4 bars with Veno being higher). I believe they use different metrics for each hero because my CM is almost always the lowest damage in the game. Also mmr is really random. I've gone from playing against EG to playing with people who had never played their hero before in the span of 2 games. Granted those people actually did really well for it being their first hero, it's just a little off. | ||
CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
I'm sure TheYango will appreciate your double-entendre  | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Twinmold
Sweden238 Posts
On May 07 2012 20:01 epoc wrote: I get this weird bug where I can't write anything in chat. Lots of people are getting it. Hopefully it will be patched soon. | ||
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Singapore15360 Posts
On May 07 2012 20:01 epoc wrote: I get this weird bug where I can't write anything in chat. Same, thought I was muted, or my keyboard crapping out on me... comforting to know I'm not the only one. | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
On May 07 2012 19:41 Nevuk wrote: I do. Batrider 45 games 25% winrate, 1.9 bars. Oh wait, I lied. My bats apparently just above 2. It's huskar that's 1.9 Oh, and NB, my CM is my second highest ranked hero (over 4 bars with Veno being higher). I believe they use different metrics for each hero because my CM is almost always the lowest damage in the game. Also mmr is really random. I've gone from playing against EG to playing with people who had never played their hero before in the span of 2 games. Granted those people actually did really well for it being their first hero, it's just a little off. I'm not actually so sure they use different metrics for each hero, it took me a long time to get a full performance bar on SF, even if I'd go like 10/1/10 every game, while it took me 1 good game where I went like 7/0/11 on venomancer for the bar to completely fill up, presumably because it's not that common for venomancer to go get good streaks, while it's a lot more frequent for SF. Agree with mmr being stupidly random though, like a week ago I had back to back to back games where I was in a game with synderen, then the next game I was in a game with mantis, and the follow game I was in a game with a guy who had a total of 26 matchmaking games played on his account. It has to be those people queueing with a high rated friend or something, but it's still feels pretty weird, I agree. | ||
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Singapore15360 Posts
On May 07 2012 20:09 Canas wrote: I'm not actually so sure they use different metrics for each hero, it took me a long time to get a full performance bar on SF, even if I'd go like 10/1/10 every game, while it took me 1 good game where I went like 7/0/11 on venomancer for the bar to completely fill up, presumably because it's not that common for venomancer to go get good streaks, while it's a lot more frequent for SF. Agree with mmr being stupidly random though, like a week ago I had back to back to back games where I was in a game with synderen, then the next game I was in a game with mantis, and the follow game I was in a game with a guy who had a total of 26 matchmaking games played on his account. It has to be those people queueing with a high rated friend or something, but it's still feels pretty weird, I agree. singsing getting queued with 4 people who all had 1 win each was amusing | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On May 07 2012 17:51 hunts wrote: So I think someone mentioned this before somewhere, but I was curious. Is your MMR calculated only on winning/losing games? Or does your individual performance have any effect on your MMR? I have a couple heroes just barely below 2 bars. The way it happened though was I have a few heroes I only did 1-2 games on that were at 2 bars, and then as my MMR went up their performance slowly went down just a tiny bit. Also on PL is it better to rush radiance than go for vlads -> difusal -> manta? Vlads doesn't work on illusions, making it a bad pickup for PL. But otherwise you have the right of it - radi first, then you get heart+manta+diffusal in any order you deem fit (its situational). I believe MMR is based only on win or lose. Otherwise it would encourage fountain farming, KSing, and avoiding death to the detriment of the team (ie playing veno often its better to just suicide and ult than to play safe and only hit 1 or 2 with your ult). Or it could encourage players to feed at the end in order to tank their MMR if they want to smurf. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 07 2012 20:25 Firebolt145 wrote: If you get the chat bug, go to the main menu and then back to your game, then open the chat then click on the chatbar. It's really annoying because it happens more than once a game. This fixes it but you have to do it every 15 minutes of hte game or so from my recollections. They say that the metric is relative to others in your skill range. So they probably mean relative to your mmr? Veno is my second highest ranked and I feed like maelk (.6 kd and 2.64 ka/d). My cm is 1.58 k+a/d with .33 kd and 48% winrate. So they're REALLY not using kills as a metric for her. | ||
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