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On May 08 2012 06:27 Jh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 03:35 Dankleteer wrote:
I feel much better now, thank you TLers, but I will still avoid clinkz like the plague.
I've been trying out Leshrac lately and having a blast, I love getting bloodstone on him but I'm trying to figure out a good general item build for him. I started out getting a bracer and an null talisman but I think that delays the Bloodstone too much, and I can't think of any cheaper builds that give me the mana regen necessary to dish out damage. go arcane boots first. you can disassemble them and use the blue ball again. that should keep you going. max stun and edict first. ult after you have your bloodstone. after that it's up to your team. bkb, sheepstick, shivas all work.
Do you actually suggest going bloodstone? I thought the current consensus was that BS is great if you are pub stomping, but its one of those high risk/reward items where the risk is somewhat greater than the reward. I've seen a lot of people grabbing sceptor + some mana regen item over bloodstone, and that working out better. Somewhere in my heart, I just can't really condone Bloodstone.
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On May 08 2012 06:27 Jh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 03:35 Dankleteer wrote:
I feel much better now, thank you TLers, but I will still avoid clinkz like the plague.
I've been trying out Leshrac lately and having a blast, I love getting bloodstone on him but I'm trying to figure out a good general item build for him. I started out getting a bracer and an null talisman but I think that delays the Bloodstone too much, and I can't think of any cheaper builds that give me the mana regen necessary to dish out damage. go arcane boots first. you can disassemble them and use the blue ball again. that should keep you going. max stun and edict first. ult after you have your bloodstone. after that it's up to your team. bkb, sheepstick, shivas all work.
leshrac isnt one of my good hero but i once talked to a friend who play him at semi pro level. What he told me was leveling stun more than once is a waste early game if you have skill bc the lighting edict deal way more overall dmg. The point in stun only increase the radius which is good for beginner to practice aiming or for extreme roaming support who have no mana to use a 3rd spell.
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"Basher!"
A minute later:
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On May 08 2012 06:37 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 06:27 Jh wrote:On May 08 2012 03:35 Dankleteer wrote:
I feel much better now, thank you TLers, but I will still avoid clinkz like the plague.
I've been trying out Leshrac lately and having a blast, I love getting bloodstone on him but I'm trying to figure out a good general item build for him. I started out getting a bracer and an null talisman but I think that delays the Bloodstone too much, and I can't think of any cheaper builds that give me the mana regen necessary to dish out damage. go arcane boots first. you can disassemble them and use the blue ball again. that should keep you going. max stun and edict first. ult after you have your bloodstone. after that it's up to your team. bkb, sheepstick, shivas all work. leshrac isnt one of my good hero but i once talked to a friend who play him at semi pro level. What he told me was leveling stun more than once is a waste early game if you have skill bc the lighting edict deal way more overall dmg. The point in stun only increase the radius which is good for beginner to practice aiming or for extreme roaming support who have no mana to use a 3rd spell.
There's many different ways to build him from what I've seen, and it doesn't really matter whose opinion you get because you'll see pro leshrac players build him differently as well, but personally I don't level lightning at all. I find stun edict better for ganking because you don't have to waste time with your lightning animation, and bigger radius isn't just for noobs, it makes or breaks whether or not someone can juke it or you can hit more than one person at once. Getting into a team fight and hitting 3 people at once is gamebreaking and simply not possible with 1 point into it.
As for items, yeah, you can go mana boots and break it up for bloodstone, but remember that the hero is really good with increased movement speed and phase boots let's you catch pretty much any hero with stun edict. I've tried both builds, but since I like going semi carry/carry and also being aggressive I prefer the phase boots over mana boots.
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On May 08 2012 06:49 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 06:37 NB wrote:On May 08 2012 06:27 Jh wrote:On May 08 2012 03:35 Dankleteer wrote:
I feel much better now, thank you TLers, but I will still avoid clinkz like the plague.
I've been trying out Leshrac lately and having a blast, I love getting bloodstone on him but I'm trying to figure out a good general item build for him. I started out getting a bracer and an null talisman but I think that delays the Bloodstone too much, and I can't think of any cheaper builds that give me the mana regen necessary to dish out damage. go arcane boots first. you can disassemble them and use the blue ball again. that should keep you going. max stun and edict first. ult after you have your bloodstone. after that it's up to your team. bkb, sheepstick, shivas all work. leshrac isnt one of my good hero but i once talked to a friend who play him at semi pro level. What he told me was leveling stun more than once is a waste early game if you have skill bc the lighting edict deal way more overall dmg. The point in stun only increase the radius which is good for beginner to practice aiming or for extreme roaming support who have no mana to use a 3rd spell. There's many different ways to build him from what I've seen, and it doesn't really matter whose opinion you get because you'll see pro leshrac players build him differently as well, but personally I don't level lightning at all. I find stun edict better for ganking because you don't have to waste time with your lightning animation, and bigger radius isn't just for noobs, it makes and breaks whether or not someone can juke it or you can hit more than one person at once. Getting into a team fight and hitting 3 people at once is gamebreaking and simply not possible with 1 point into it. As for items, yeah, you can go mana boots and break it up for bloodstone, but remember that the hero is really good with increased movement speed and phase boots let's you catch pretty much any hero with stun edict. I've tried both builds, but since I like going semi carry/carry and also being aggressive I prefer the phase boots over mana boots.
Lightning does a ton of damage. Pros level it early because they need it early. If you're not going to face group fights or need to counterpush, then you can delay it for better ganking skills.
I used to like your build, but it's really a solo mid and able to gank sidelanes build. If you get an early bloodstone you can even level nova and gank by stun/nova/edict and do a ton of damage. The problem is that you're really weak against early pushes and have weaker pushing power.
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Thats why you dissassemble mana boots, get bloodstone and then get phase boots
anyway Leshrac is really versatile in his skillbuild and it can be adjusted to the situation quite nicely.
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Phase boots are just better early because that's when you're roaming and ganking or laning. If it's after bloodstone, then well, you've pretty much passed the point where it was most effective. I see manaboots as more of a pushing/support item. If you need mana you can also go ring of basilisk too.
Also, the lightning may be more damage, but it's also more mana too. And just note that in the animation of lightning you could have gotten closer and layed down a few auto attacks + increased stun damage makes the gap a bit closer. Also note that leveling stun increases damage by 60 per level, same as lightning, first level of lightning does 80 damage. Lightning is good for harassing in mid lane though.
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well after playing like 20 games i'm doing pretty decent (i have 1k games played in LoL, but i played ~200 in HoN so i know a good portion of heroes, and the mechanics like creep stacking/pulling/warding yadda yadda) but the one thing that annoys me...every god damn game is 50+ mins long!
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only when you don't know how to capitalize on an advantage :p
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Both at once? like, a cat-dog rib platter? Seems a little weird, why not just have one or the other?
I think id need alcohol to eat that anyway.
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On May 08 2012 03:49 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 03:42 Dankleteer wrote:
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports. Darer is pretty much dead atm. NS is the best support player in foreign scene.
I'd take AA LoH Puppey over NS any day of the week. AA especially, is the best hard support that would 'match up' with NS.
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damn Mask of Madness is counter intuitive on Pudge!
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On May 08 2012 08:43 Zlasher wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 03:49 dragonborn wrote:On May 08 2012 03:42 Dankleteer wrote:
Artstyle will play support at times, but I think in big games hes going to be carry or semi-carry. Darer had a pretty versatile lineup, they would switch around roles, but generally NS and Santa were the go-to supports. Darer is pretty much dead atm. NS is the best support player in foreign scene. I'd take AA LoH Puppey over NS any day of the week. AA especially, is the best hard support that would 'match up' with NS.
classic biased NaVi fanboy.
do you know Virtus.Pro 2007? when AA playing semi-carry on this team, NS was still support  Calling AA is better support than him simply bashing to NS.
He is more experienced than any support player out there.
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best support in the scene right now are puppey and Maelk imo... LoH isnt support, he is more like an initiator....
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