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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 23:51:06
May 02 2012 23:49 GMT
#9641
On May 03 2012 04:07 Zlasher wrote:
the tl;dr is that NS was planning on leaving already, once the starseries lan was over, their performance sealed the deal. Also apparently G was sleeping with his ex or something like that.

So NS and Dread are leaving, and the man with no team loyalty whatsoever, Kuroky, is rumored to be joining in.


NS has officially joined Virtus.Pro with Dread, KuroKy and Azen expected to be announced in the coming week. 5th player is rumored to be either rmN- or Black^

Either way we'll find out when they announce the other players on May 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
May 03 2012 00:00 GMT
#9642
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him
POGGERS
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
May 03 2012 00:03 GMT
#9643
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 00:17:17
May 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#9644
Doesn't help that with a hood and ridicilous amounts of armor, a DK, unlike some carries or semi-carries is very VERY hard to bring down relativly speaking in the midgame.
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
May 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#9645
On May 03 2012 09:03 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*

gotta love valve hahaha
POGGERS
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 03 2012 00:41 GMT
#9646
On May 03 2012 09:19 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:03 Nilrem wrote:
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*

gotta love valve hahaha


Oh yeahh <3
Dear Sixsmith...
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
May 03 2012 00:46 GMT
#9647
On May 03 2012 06:02 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:48 TheYango wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:40 Esoterikk wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


Doesn't DK require a pretty hefty amount of farm to be useful?

Where did this image of DK being a late-game hard carry that does nothing without items start? He's definitely powerful lategame, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of having a strong midgame.

DK has:
- Very safe reliable laning; capable of achieving stalemate or better in most solo lane matchups.
- Some of the best baseline pushing capability in the game
- Reliable point disable, reliable AoE
- Extremely good baseline survivability, while also being ranged in dragon form.

He's a fantastic midgame teamfighter, even with just Power Treads and Janggo.

Not to discredit his lategame, but I usually fear him more in the midgame with proper leveling than I do in the later game stages - the time of the game where BKB's are less common, thus making his nuke and stun more potent is what I tend to worry about. I just feel like he has more physical presence in a teamfight in the midgame (not quite early midgame, but after that).

Edit: not to mention his pushing power with level 1 dragon, level 4 firebreath and a soul ring...yeesh.


If you can watch DK vs Ritter from the Gigabyte D2 Masters, there is a really awesome game where DK.Burning plays the carry DK and they crushed from beginning to end with their pressure
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 01:37:24
May 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#9648
On May 03 2012 05:48 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:40 Esoterikk wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


Doesn't DK require a pretty hefty amount of farm to be useful?

Where did this image of DK being a late-game hard carry that does nothing without items start? He's definitely powerful lategame, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of having a strong midgame.

DK has:
- Very safe reliable laning; capable of achieving stalemate or better in most solo lane matchups.
- Some of the best baseline pushing capability in the game
- Reliable point disable, reliable AoE
- Extremely good baseline survivability, while also being ranged in dragon form.

He's a fantastic midgame teamfighter, even with just Power Treads and Janggo.



His biggest strength is his ability to contribute to team fights in the midgame with minimal items while being extremely hard to kill. BoF + Stun and AoE on his Dragon Form (or Poison) allow him to completely smash midgame with nothing more than Treads/Drums/Pipe as you stated. His late game IMO is a little underwhelming considering other late game carries can outdamage him big time.


DK (Team DK vs Ritter) demonstrated why Dragon Knight is such a strong pick for midgame fighting. They absolutely smashed Ritter, predominantly because of DK being such a tanky hero that can't be ignored.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 03 2012 02:21 GMT
#9649
On May 03 2012 08:49 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 04:07 Zlasher wrote:
the tl;dr is that NS was planning on leaving already, once the starseries lan was over, their performance sealed the deal. Also apparently G was sleeping with his ex or something like that.

So NS and Dread are leaving, and the man with no team loyalty whatsoever, Kuroky, is rumored to be joining in.


NS has officially joined Virtus.Pro with Dread, KuroKy and Azen expected to be announced in the coming week. 5th player is rumored to be either rmN- or Black^

Either way we'll find out when they announce the other players on May 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th

unless they can get a better captain (or their leadership has increased significantly), sounds like a recipe for disaster
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 03 2012 02:27 GMT
#9650
wait so what is the official mouz line up without kuroky? they only have 4 people?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 03 2012 02:35 GMT
#9651
PL it is :D
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
May 03 2012 02:38 GMT
#9652
Test Build Update Notes - May 2, 2012
GAMEPLAY
- Added Phantom Lancer!
- Fixed being able to use ping to identify illusions.
- Fixed bug where we wouldn't always upgrade couriers in order of creation.
- Fixed potential dispel threshold being calculated after damage reduction rather than before (fixes stuff like Bloodrage not dispeling potions).
- Fixed being able to blink if you became rooted after you started casting.
- Fixed unit conversion spells (Enchant, Persuasion, etc) not removing existing debuffs properly.
- Fixed Searing Arrows not stacking with Eye of Skadi.
- Fixed Satyr firing Shockwave onto smoked/invisible heroes.
- When the courier returns items to the stash, items owned by the other team are now dropped on the ground.
- Fixed Spirit Bear teleporting far away from you with Return (causing it to get stuck in trees sometimes).
- Attacking units now follow their target and then resume attack orders after getting disarmed.
- Updated attack animation for Spectre, with more impact on the hit frame.

UI
- Tranquil Boots regen is now displayed on the HP bar.
- Clicking "No Courier" opens the shop with the courier item selected.
- As spectator, clicking courier button now queries the courier for the current query unit's team.
- Fixed creepstats drawing for all units when spectating.
- Fixed missing shared cooldown on the first use of an item.
- Extended the health bar above the stats area.
- Centered respawn label when showing death panel but not the buyback button.
- Fixed a case where the cooldown swipe on buffs was not initialized and rotated backwards continuously.
- Fixed top bar timer not initializing
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.
- Broadcasters can now draw lines in the world using Ctrl.
- Added two voice emotes.

BOTS
- Bots now use their defense mode desire to determine when to use Glyph, rather than having an independent calculation for it.
- Bots will no longer use items or abilities when they are individually disabled.
- Bots now switch out of "early game" when either team becomes powerful, rather than just when the opposing team does. This prevents situations where one team is roaming and pushing and the other team is still trying to lane.
- Fixed bug that would cause bots to clump at the center of map rather than roaming to gank a target.
- Fixed bug that would cause bots to run out of the fountain prematurely sometimes rather than healing up.
- Fixed bug in lane push desire that would cause bots to underestimate the danger of enemy heroes in the lane.
- Bots will now consider both buying their situational (TPs, dust, wards, etc) and non-situational items.
- Bots should now only buy TP scrolls when at the home base or side shops, and will want to buy a TP scroll if they don't have one in their inventory.


All those who guessed PL can enjoy their victory. Looks like Cyborgmatt's streak increases.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
May 03 2012 02:46 GMT
#9653
Is PL used at all in the dota1 comp scene?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#9654
this PL model and animation is no go.. spear thats 50 feet long? long wind up? (
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 03 2012 02:58 GMT
#9655
Cyborgmatt has a livestream now so you can watch him dig through all the new stuff with the patches:

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/live-stream/
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 03 2012 03:03 GMT
#9656
600 people watching a man datamine. almost as good as 1000 people watching cella sleep
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 03 2012 03:13 GMT
#9657
On May 03 2012 11:46 rob.au wrote:
Is PL used at all in the dota1 comp scene?


not in recent times, no



what we remember him by~
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#9658
that fucking new spectre model... holy fucking horror movie makers working in valve or what... and panda is a snake now ~_~

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/live-stream/
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
May 03 2012 03:20 GMT
#9659
panda is a red panda now
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 03 2012 03:22 GMT
#9660
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.

oh wow
ffxiv enjoyer
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