• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:09
CEST 13:09
KST 20:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End6Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!43Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/DerilaERGOMemoryFoamPillo GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End Rush's Odyssey Controversy BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II Best Games Kespa era
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group A CSLAN 4 is Coming! ASL Season 22 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9886 users

General Discussion - Page 483

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 481 482 483 484 485 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 23:51:06
May 02 2012 23:49 GMT
#9641
On May 03 2012 04:07 Zlasher wrote:
the tl;dr is that NS was planning on leaving already, once the starseries lan was over, their performance sealed the deal. Also apparently G was sleeping with his ex or something like that.

So NS and Dread are leaving, and the man with no team loyalty whatsoever, Kuroky, is rumored to be joining in.


NS has officially joined Virtus.Pro with Dread, KuroKy and Azen expected to be announced in the coming week. 5th player is rumored to be either rmN- or Black^

Either way we'll find out when they announce the other players on May 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
May 03 2012 00:00 GMT
#9642
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him
POGGERS
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
May 03 2012 00:03 GMT
#9643
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 00:17:17
May 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#9644
Doesn't help that with a hood and ridicilous amounts of armor, a DK, unlike some carries or semi-carries is very VERY hard to bring down relativly speaking in the midgame.
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
May 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#9645
On May 03 2012 09:03 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*

gotta love valve hahaha
POGGERS
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 03 2012 00:41 GMT
#9646
On May 03 2012 09:19 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:03 Nilrem wrote:
On May 03 2012 09:00 konadora wrote:
lol dota2 blog's latest post is just "in-your-face" about phantom lancer being the next hero hahahaha

i honestly can't wait to see him


I love the subtlety of it. Not mentioning it or anything; they just so happen to be using him while taking the pictures. Of course, unintentional *cough*

gotta love valve hahaha


Oh yeahh <3
Dear Sixsmith...
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
May 03 2012 00:46 GMT
#9647
On May 03 2012 06:02 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:48 TheYango wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:40 Esoterikk wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


Doesn't DK require a pretty hefty amount of farm to be useful?

Where did this image of DK being a late-game hard carry that does nothing without items start? He's definitely powerful lategame, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of having a strong midgame.

DK has:
- Very safe reliable laning; capable of achieving stalemate or better in most solo lane matchups.
- Some of the best baseline pushing capability in the game
- Reliable point disable, reliable AoE
- Extremely good baseline survivability, while also being ranged in dragon form.

He's a fantastic midgame teamfighter, even with just Power Treads and Janggo.

Not to discredit his lategame, but I usually fear him more in the midgame with proper leveling than I do in the later game stages - the time of the game where BKB's are less common, thus making his nuke and stun more potent is what I tend to worry about. I just feel like he has more physical presence in a teamfight in the midgame (not quite early midgame, but after that).

Edit: not to mention his pushing power with level 1 dragon, level 4 firebreath and a soul ring...yeesh.


If you can watch DK vs Ritter from the Gigabyte D2 Masters, there is a really awesome game where DK.Burning plays the carry DK and they crushed from beginning to end with their pressure
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 01:37:24
May 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#9648
On May 03 2012 05:48 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:40 Esoterikk wrote:
On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


Doesn't DK require a pretty hefty amount of farm to be useful?

Where did this image of DK being a late-game hard carry that does nothing without items start? He's definitely powerful lategame, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of having a strong midgame.

DK has:
- Very safe reliable laning; capable of achieving stalemate or better in most solo lane matchups.
- Some of the best baseline pushing capability in the game
- Reliable point disable, reliable AoE
- Extremely good baseline survivability, while also being ranged in dragon form.

He's a fantastic midgame teamfighter, even with just Power Treads and Janggo.



His biggest strength is his ability to contribute to team fights in the midgame with minimal items while being extremely hard to kill. BoF + Stun and AoE on his Dragon Form (or Poison) allow him to completely smash midgame with nothing more than Treads/Drums/Pipe as you stated. His late game IMO is a little underwhelming considering other late game carries can outdamage him big time.


DK (Team DK vs Ritter) demonstrated why Dragon Knight is such a strong pick for midgame fighting. They absolutely smashed Ritter, predominantly because of DK being such a tanky hero that can't be ignored.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 03 2012 02:21 GMT
#9649
On May 03 2012 08:49 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 04:07 Zlasher wrote:
the tl;dr is that NS was planning on leaving already, once the starseries lan was over, their performance sealed the deal. Also apparently G was sleeping with his ex or something like that.

So NS and Dread are leaving, and the man with no team loyalty whatsoever, Kuroky, is rumored to be joining in.


NS has officially joined Virtus.Pro with Dread, KuroKy and Azen expected to be announced in the coming week. 5th player is rumored to be either rmN- or Black^

Either way we'll find out when they announce the other players on May 4th, 6th, 8th & 10th

unless they can get a better captain (or their leadership has increased significantly), sounds like a recipe for disaster
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 03 2012 02:27 GMT
#9650
wait so what is the official mouz line up without kuroky? they only have 4 people?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 03 2012 02:35 GMT
#9651
PL it is :D
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
May 03 2012 02:38 GMT
#9652
Test Build Update Notes - May 2, 2012
GAMEPLAY
- Added Phantom Lancer!
- Fixed being able to use ping to identify illusions.
- Fixed bug where we wouldn't always upgrade couriers in order of creation.
- Fixed potential dispel threshold being calculated after damage reduction rather than before (fixes stuff like Bloodrage not dispeling potions).
- Fixed being able to blink if you became rooted after you started casting.
- Fixed unit conversion spells (Enchant, Persuasion, etc) not removing existing debuffs properly.
- Fixed Searing Arrows not stacking with Eye of Skadi.
- Fixed Satyr firing Shockwave onto smoked/invisible heroes.
- When the courier returns items to the stash, items owned by the other team are now dropped on the ground.
- Fixed Spirit Bear teleporting far away from you with Return (causing it to get stuck in trees sometimes).
- Attacking units now follow their target and then resume attack orders after getting disarmed.
- Updated attack animation for Spectre, with more impact on the hit frame.

UI
- Tranquil Boots regen is now displayed on the HP bar.
- Clicking "No Courier" opens the shop with the courier item selected.
- As spectator, clicking courier button now queries the courier for the current query unit's team.
- Fixed creepstats drawing for all units when spectating.
- Fixed missing shared cooldown on the first use of an item.
- Extended the health bar above the stats area.
- Centered respawn label when showing death panel but not the buyback button.
- Fixed a case where the cooldown swipe on buffs was not initialized and rotated backwards continuously.
- Fixed top bar timer not initializing
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.
- Broadcasters can now draw lines in the world using Ctrl.
- Added two voice emotes.

BOTS
- Bots now use their defense mode desire to determine when to use Glyph, rather than having an independent calculation for it.
- Bots will no longer use items or abilities when they are individually disabled.
- Bots now switch out of "early game" when either team becomes powerful, rather than just when the opposing team does. This prevents situations where one team is roaming and pushing and the other team is still trying to lane.
- Fixed bug that would cause bots to clump at the center of map rather than roaming to gank a target.
- Fixed bug that would cause bots to run out of the fountain prematurely sometimes rather than healing up.
- Fixed bug in lane push desire that would cause bots to underestimate the danger of enemy heroes in the lane.
- Bots will now consider both buying their situational (TPs, dust, wards, etc) and non-situational items.
- Bots should now only buy TP scrolls when at the home base or side shops, and will want to buy a TP scroll if they don't have one in their inventory.


All those who guessed PL can enjoy their victory. Looks like Cyborgmatt's streak increases.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
May 03 2012 02:46 GMT
#9653
Is PL used at all in the dota1 comp scene?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#9654
this PL model and animation is no go.. spear thats 50 feet long? long wind up? (
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 03 2012 02:58 GMT
#9655
Cyborgmatt has a livestream now so you can watch him dig through all the new stuff with the patches:

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/live-stream/
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
May 03 2012 03:03 GMT
#9656
600 people watching a man datamine. almost as good as 1000 people watching cella sleep
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 03 2012 03:13 GMT
#9657
On May 03 2012 11:46 rob.au wrote:
Is PL used at all in the dota1 comp scene?


not in recent times, no



what we remember him by~
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#9658
that fucking new spectre model... holy fucking horror movie makers working in valve or what... and panda is a snake now ~_~

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/live-stream/
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
May 03 2012 03:20 GMT
#9659
panda is a red panda now
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 03 2012 03:22 GMT
#9660
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.

oh wow
ffxiv enjoyer
Prev 1 481 482 483 484 485 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #100
WardiTV196
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro24 Group A
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
Afreeca ASL 10456
StarCastTV_EN245
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko258
Rex 51
mouzHeroMarine 29
SHIN 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 18635
Horang2 8206
Sea 6488
Jaedong 2725
BeSt 1626
Mini 1194
Soulkey 1089
EffOrt 918
Pusan 601
Light 398
[ Show more ]
Barracks 322
Larva 316
ZerO 216
Zeus 197
Free 183
Stork 178
Mind 146
Mong 79
ggaemo 68
JYJ 67
Hyun 58
sSak 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 35
Sexy 32
Bale 28
sorry 18
Terrorterran 12
Noble 7
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma294
Dendi164
Gorgc9
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2296
zeus660
kRYSTAL_364
edward45
Other Games
singsing2040
crisheroes251
Happy185
Mew2King78
QueenE32
Liquid`LucifroN4
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 222
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 210
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV922
• lizZardDota2301
League of Legends
• Stunt425
Upcoming Events
The Patches Monday
4h 51m
Afreeca Starleague
22h 51m
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
23h 51m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.