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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
May 03 2012 07:05 GMT
#9681
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 03 2012 07:58 GMT
#9682
On May 03 2012 04:36 Yoshi- wrote:
the rumors are that kky will join NS and Dread and not darer, dunno if you meant that.

But yea cool how a fucked up a good team and created 2 teams that will never get invited to international..


Yeah thats what I meant, I think I worded it poorly

On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


DK was around right when EG got back from China at the end of 2011, but fell out of favor when pushing became more popular.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 03 2012 09:54 GMT
#9683
On May 03 2012 16:58 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 05:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
the lack of dk in the western scene is mind boggling


DK was around right when EG got back from China at the end of 2011, but fell out of favor when pushing became more popular.


Which doesn't make sense in the slightest, because DK is great for both pushing and counter pushing -.-

By the way, what is the best way to build PL? From what I've heard you go radiance then diffusal, then I guess late game luxuries? Manta/butter because they give agi for your illusions? Heart? For skill build - get a point in your invis then max your slow? Do you get ult at 6 for the MR, or do you just put more points in your invis? Do you get an early point in your third skill (ie level 4)?
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 03 2012 10:08 GMT
#9684
I've always skipped ult until 9/10 and maxed Lance then Doppelwalk first - sure, the extra MR is nice, but without Juxtapose that's all it gives you.
ffxiv enjoyer
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 03 2012 10:11 GMT
#9685
The illus are more or less useless early compared to the dopelwalk and the lance IMO. And for Items, you get what benefits your images most. Diffu is a must core I think.
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chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
May 03 2012 10:24 GMT
#9686
Why would you build Radi on PL? Please explain.
Diffu and some survivability seems a no-brainer to me.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 03 2012 10:29 GMT
#9687
max lance first
at least 1 early point in doppel; stats over doppel depends on situation/preference
max juxtapose and ult by 16

tranquil + vit + wand > radi > heart + diffusal > manta
alternately
treads + vanguard + wand > radi > heart + diffusal > manta

butterfly/buriza as super luxury since u don't really die to autoattacks anyway and buriza doesn't add that much damage to your illusions since they're so weak

u buy radi because it lets you farm ridiculously fast by throwing spears at creeps or doppelwalking into creeps
also u can throw spears at heroes and they get burned for a lot of damage
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 03 2012 10:30 GMT
#9688
Don't illus keep the radi burn on them? PL with ult can just push with only illusions, they just keep coming and with radi its very fast and risk free farm.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 10:34:01
May 03 2012 10:32 GMT
#9689
On May 03 2012 19:24 chocopaw wrote:
Why would you build Radi on PL? Please explain.
Diffu and some survivability seems a no-brainer to me.

Because your illusions can burn everywhere =) You can lance someone from afar and he'll burn with the chance of keeping burning if the illusion replicate. Well, I think it's the reasoning at least. An self replicating illusions can farm/push a lane by themselves after just one lance in the mid/late game.
bored01
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia119 Posts
May 03 2012 10:38 GMT
#9690
On May 03 2012 12:17 NB wrote:
that fucking new spectre model... holy fucking horror movie makers working in valve or what... and panda is a snake now ~_~

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/live-stream/


can someone post a screenie of this new spectre model? o_o
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
May 03 2012 10:45 GMT
#9691
i went on the test client and tried spectre, because patch notes also said her attack animation was slightly changed (frontswing seems to be slightly quicker now, but don't quote me on that), but didn't notice any model change.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 03 2012 10:52 GMT
#9692
They only changed to attack animation to emphasize the damage point more. Now I can finally last hit with her, earlier it was really hard compared to other animations.
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bored01
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia119 Posts
May 03 2012 10:53 GMT
#9693
oh okay, thanks for that. yeah I thought it was only an animation change like the patch notes said
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 03 2012 10:53 GMT
#9694
On May 03 2012 12:22 DoNotDisturb wrote:
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.

oh wow

lol I remember that there was a game where I bought wards and then someone else did too at the start, and we were like naah no need to get 4 wards so we BOTH sold them and ended up with noone

gg.
WriterXiao8~~
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 03 2012 11:22 GMT
#9695
On May 03 2012 19:53 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 12:22 DoNotDisturb wrote:
- Selling back a limited stock item within the sellback time restocks the shop.

oh wow

lol I remember that there was a game where I bought wards and then someone else did too at the start, and we were like naah no need to get 4 wards so we BOTH sold them and ended up with noone

gg.


I may have been in that game. Were you tide?

I remember blocking the pull with sentries -.-
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 03 2012 11:41 GMT
#9696
On May 03 2012 14:48 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 14:07 SirMilford wrote:
Is I scepter an ok item to aim for as vs?

Don't aim for it, but it's worth picking up late game.

General item order for VS (taken from 820's VS FPVod):
Boots (Tranquils or Phases, depending on how well you're doing)
Urn/Medallion (Urn in 90% of cases, Medallion if someone else has Urn and Medallion is still useful for your team--otherwise grab a Bracer or something)
Magic Wand
Drums
Point Booster/Cloak/Ghost Scepter (depending on which type of survivability you need most)
Aghanim's/Diffusal/Manta (lategame luxury/utility, depending on which is most useful to your team)


its awesome in pubs.
and id say dont pick it up late, if its going good for you early pick up your boots, a bracer, wand and rush that agha.
if you have agha before lvl16 its basically game over.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 03 2012 11:46 GMT
#9697
yea dat gamechanging 10 second swap
it's more like if u pick it up in a reasonable amount of time ur team is owning and then u win
it's not a huge pickup since the cd is pretty short anyway and vs melts like wax but it's fun to have and can be pretty nifty if you don't die too quickly
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#9698
Watching CWM 1v5 and almost take mid rax is pretty hilarious
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 03 2012 12:05 GMT
#9699
On May 03 2012 20:46 Dead9 wrote:
yea dat gamechanging 10 second swap
it's more like if u pick it up in a reasonable amount of time ur team is owning and then u win
it's not a huge pickup since the cd is pretty short anyway and vs melts like wax but it's fun to have and can be pretty nifty if you don't die too quickly


probably right, if youre team isnt doing so hot you either wont get the agha or it wont change anything.
but 10 second swap is still amazingly good.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
May 03 2012 12:13 GMT
#9700
my first ever megas vs megas game. was pretty draining. lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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