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Firebolt145
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BurningSera
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On May 02 2012 15:04 Zlasher wrote: Yeah I just can't imagine a farming route in jungle where you would have vlads done WITHOUT being level 5.5ish. theoretically yes. in that case, lets just assume that nobody is coming to jungle to disturb you, the enemy has no awareness at all there is a ursa in oppo team and of course the rosh has almost no bash on you while you roshing. and lastly, getting vlar at 4min of the game is just, elitist speaking lol or some very good luck on getting nice creep spawns. ursa rosh at lvl5 is a gamble and if you failed you are quite screwed. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:32 Firebolt145 wrote: Invoker can solo rosh that early? Maybe if you have lifesteal and are lvl 10 where you have 2 spirits up, but I find it hard to believe that you can do it at an earlier level or without lifesteal, which is standard in most 'proper' builds for invoker. :/ i have seen it many times XD i dont know how exactly you can do it but exort invo's forge spirit can tank well and you can summon new ones right after they died. | ||
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Firebolt145
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:53 Firebolt145 wrote: Gonna try this next time. Cold snapping rosh would also help immensely I'd imagine, can you think of another spell that invoker would have to break the linkens effect on rosh first? may be one level on Wax to do a Deafening Blast? i am not sure :3 | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Summon spirits. Wait. When spirits are close to getting off cooldown start fighting rosh, just remember to only let him attack one spirit at a time. Also furion can also solo him once he has maxed treants with a medallion. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Lycanthrope: you can do it with just medallion, basilius, magic stick, and one salve, at level 7, especially if you skip ultimate. Before the first wolf dies, micro him into stomp range but out of attack range, and rosh will fill up your magic stick. You need 3 sets of wolves, unless you want to risk fighting him without wolves and getting bashed a lot. However, it slow down your farm to go for roshan really fast. Ursa: I've done it with luck at level 5 with a jungling start with just basilius, 6 salves, 1 clarity. Overall you'd be ahead in levels if you go vlad first though, as it takes awhile. If you get to farm in lane and double pull, you could probably take on rosh at 4 minutes something, but the opponents should probably notice your abasense. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:32 Firebolt145 wrote: Invoker can solo rosh that early? Maybe if you have lifesteal and are lvl 10 where you have 2 spirits up, but I find it hard to believe that you can do it at an earlier level or without lifesteal, which is standard in most 'proper' builds for invoker. :/ All you need is a medallion if you want to do it that early, have forge spirits summoned before you start when you run in, so you can instantly re-summon when the first set die, and then keep medallion debuff up, he actually dies relatively quickly. You're probably also gonna have force staff, or force staff + drums, which helps a little. | ||
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Steveling
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On May 02 2012 07:49 Firebolt145 wrote: There are so many better items than dagon/eblade on a late game Tinker, completely ignoring the fact that you'll be saving for buybacks. You have 6 slots: Staples - BoTs - Shivas - Guinsoo After this you should get either Linkens/BKB, taking up another slot. There are 2 slots left. I personally prefer manta as a pushing item. Alternatives are force staff/blink or orchids. Where on earth do you have the space for dagon 5 or eblade? Dagon 5 is very much a pure pubstomp item when you're just fucking around. Linkens is rearmable? I thought it wasn't in Dota 1. http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223932 | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On May 02 2012 16:22 writer22816 wrote: Linkens is rearmable? I thought it wasn't in Dota 1. http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223932 If it is in Dota 2 then it's definitely a bug, because I'm quite sure it was fixed a few versions ago in DotA 1 | ||
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Firebolt145
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On May 02 2012 15:39 BurningSera wrote: theoretically yes. in that case, lets just assume that nobody is coming to jungle to disturb you, the enemy has no awareness at all there is a ursa in oppo team and of course the rosh has almost no bash on you while you roshing. and lastly, getting vlar at 4min of the game is just, elitist speaking lol or some very good luck on getting nice creep spawns. ursa rosh at lvl5 is a gamble and if you failed you are quite screwed. Yeah its stupid to do it that early, I'm just saying that the level you can rosh earliest is irrelevant, its just about when you take advantage of a hero that can do it, and how you can do it undetected n stuff | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On May 02 2012 16:19 Firebolt145 wrote: Ew, doing it at lvl 9 by not having a second level of invoke is just gimping yourself. I'll try it at level 10 later ~ Not really, if you're just afk farming middle it's fine and killing roshan solo will level you up giving you the second level of invoke, it works fine in pubs, obviously not a good strategy in competitive games. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/2983 Did anyone see the comments before they were nuked? | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 02 2012 17:16 Unleashing wrote: Not really, if you're just afk farming middle it's fine and killing roshan solo will level you up giving you the second level of invoke, it works fine in pubs, obviously not a good strategy in competitive games. yep. if youre just farming mid usually coldsnap is enough for laning power, sunstrike to help with kills on the sides and once you are at 4/4 or 4/5 you can easily solo him (no special items needed, just takes a bit longer) | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On May 02 2012 19:51 DoNotDisturb wrote: Dread and NS leave Darer http://www.joindota.com/en/news/2983 Did anyone see the comments before they were nuked? I'm not a fan of this type of moderating. 90% of what I do on teamliquid is read the ban list. | ||
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