EPTCause vlads has cheap components, that will actually help you early on, unlike blink. And if you get ganked you are fucked
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
Cause vlads has cheap components, that will actually help you early on, unlike blink. And if you get ganked you are fucked | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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CustomKal
Canada749 Posts
On February 03 2014 04:22 Yoshi- wrote: Cause vlads has cheap components, that will actually help you early on, unlike blink. And if you get ganked you are fucked Except for that 900 gold morbid mask that doesn't nothing because it blocks your orb so it sits in base and is half the components of vlads. Unless you're farming as ursa there is no reason you have to rush a vlads at all. You can make that same argument for every hero in the game. People still rush radiance, bkb and other items that cost almost the same and have almost as big parts. Ursa in most cases will get that farm, so stop acting like he won't. Its like forgoing blink on bat because he's having trouble in lane. | ||
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CustomKal
Canada749 Posts
On February 03 2014 04:25 synapse wrote: what do you guys think about buffing the ranged stats on stuff like basher/abyssal and stout/vanguard? obv having the same stats as for melee would be dumb, but right now NOBODY buys them on ranged heroes... maybe 15% stun chance instead of 10%? something like that Would be too broken. There's a reason they aren't good on ranged heroes. If they were they would be bought and be too strong. Ranged heroes should not have the advantages that melee do from items such as basher and vanguard. They are suppose to be more fragile, they are not suppose to be able to stun lock you when you can't even get in range of them. There is a reason people pick bashes on ranged heroes in ability draft so quickly, they are just too good on them. Shoulda put this in my message above, my bad. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 03 2014 04:25 synapse wrote: what do you guys think about buffing the ranged stats on stuff like basher/abyssal and stout/vanguard? obv having the same stats as for melee would be dumb, but right now NOBODY buys them on ranged heroes... maybe 15% stun chance instead of 10%? something like that That sort of goes against the express purpose of the items. The whole function of Stout Shield is to help close the gap in laning strength between ranged and melee because of how fundamentally being ranged is such an enormous advantage in lane. That's WHY Melee stout is so much better. Also, this discussion on Vlad's vs. Blink is stupid. There are games where the correct play is to farm. There are games where the correct play is to go kill people. The item choice corresponds to these, and it's utterly pointless to argue which is better or worse in a vacuum because without the context of a game, both are acceptable first items. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On February 03 2014 05:30 TheYango wrote: That sort of goes against the express purpose of the items. The whole function of Stout Shield is to help close the gap in laning strength between ranged and melee because of how fundamentally being ranged is such an enormous advantage in lane. That's WHY Melee stout is so much better. Also, this discussion on Vlad's vs. Blink is stupid. There are games where the correct play is to farm. There are games where the correct play is to go kill people. The item choice corresponds to these, and it's utterly pointless to argue which is better or worse in a vacuum because without the context of a game, both are acceptable first items. If stout worked on ranged heros same as melee, viper would be a fucking nightmare in lane | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 03 2014 05:38 ragnorr wrote: If stout worked on ranged heros same as melee, viper would be a fucking nightmare in lane Wait, he isn't a nightmare already? | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
viper's like one of the best laners in the game | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On February 03 2014 06:46 Andre wrote: ? viper's like one of the best laners in the game Guess you're bad then | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
With that said, yes, he is a good laner, but definetly not one of the best imho. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
now its just fucking cancer | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
lol... | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
kollin plz no bully | ||
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