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On February 03 2014 01:44 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 01:27 Unleashing wrote:On February 03 2014 00:44 Alur wrote:On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal. Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf. Fury swipe duration increased. And his cast time was improved significantly which helps with earthshock. To me that's an overall buff, improving the casting of earthshock helped the hero so much. To me the overall improved cast-time outweighs the fact that overpower now has a cast-time. Considering his popularity before and after the change, as well as his winrate, I'd safely say ursa was much stronger with zero casttime in overpower. Eartshock never had such a long casttime that you couldn't hit it if you blinked on top of someone. While overpower now takes away precious seconds of dps (or cast it beforehand, which you can't if you go for shadow blade instead of blink). Fury swipe duration increase does nothing except against roshan.
Thats because people, even at the highest level, don't max earthshock first.
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If you are Ursa mid then I think max Earthshock is the best build, otherwise not.
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Max Earthshock first always best build, except if you go lvl 1 rosh and then do some stupid shit like junlging.
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EEbaka lost to godz mid going earthshock first
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Godz is clearly more MLG than EESama ever was. Time to revive N9 and #Road2TI5
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On February 03 2014 02:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If you are Ursa mid then I think max Earthshock is the best build, otherwise not.
No because, lets say you're jungle/easy lane, people are gonna check rosh every 30/40sec from 8min. Max earthshock, win fight, get rosh.
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On February 03 2014 02:55 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 02:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If you are Ursa mid then I think max Earthshock is the best build, otherwise not. No because, lets say you're jungle/easy lane, people are gonna check rosh every 30/40sec from 8min. Max earthshock, win fight, get rosh.
Essentially how i play ursa yeah.
I gank with team and then kill rosh with team.
Vlads is overrated and delays IMO more important items.
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vlads on ursa is not overrated, overpower in combination with a vlads is like a satanic. You can get blink first if you are laning but not getting vlads at all is a really bad call.
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No, you can easily play ursa without vlads. It's definitely not a must-have item on him.
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Vlad on ursa does nothing but putting pressure on rosh area. Having a vlad ursa on your team means that your support just need 2 set of sentries to control the map until the rosh is dead or entire outer tier towers on top die. The item doesnt contribute much in direct teamfight but it certainly has a lot of strategic value.
8000th post. \o/ fuck yeah ARBITERRRRRRRRRRRRR (Nony plz)
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On February 03 2014 03:19 idonthinksobro wrote:
vlads on ursa is not overrated, overpower in combination with a vlads is like a satanic. You can get blink first if you are laning but not getting vlads at all is a really bad call.
Or you could have a blink dagger that has no mana cost anymore and be an influence on the game. Vlads is only good when you're allowed to beat on someone, which you can't do without blink or bkb. Its a farming item, and ursa is not really a farming hero.
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the question is not if it is possible rather if it is good. Vlads is an item that is cheap, increases your farm speed, and gives you a lot of extra survivability in fights assuming you don't get stunlocked.
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Vlad's on Ursa is really strong for team fighting. You don't have to rush it for first item for it to be good; even late game Vlad's is still incredible on the hero.
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On February 03 2014 03:28 CustomKal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 03:19 idonthinksobro wrote:
vlads on ursa is not overrated, overpower in combination with a vlads is like a satanic. You can get blink first if you are laning but not getting vlads at all is a really bad call. Or you could have a blink dagger that has no mana cost anymore and be an influence on the game. Vlads is only good when you're allowed to beat on someone, which you can't do without blink or bkb. Its a farming item, and ursa is not really a farming hero.
Yea lets just rush an 2100 gold item first, seems like a genius idea.
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uh, if you're getting safelane free farm fuck yes i get blink first on ursa.
Late game vlad's is good on just about most heroes, you dont have to get it on ursa specifically, he fully benefits from the aura if someone else carries it for him.
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its not like there arent heroes who can rush blink
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On February 03 2014 03:31 idonthinksobro wrote:
the question is not if it is possible rather if it is good. Vlads is an item that is cheap, increases your farm speed, and gives you a lot of extra survivability in fights assuming you don't get stunlocked.
you know what else increases your farm speed?
blink
y'know, to farm heroes
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And if I get a rampage at lvl 1 on I rush rapier. Still doesn't make it a good item for any situation. And Ursa is may one of the only heroes, where putting vlads on another hero is terrible, since ursa can solo ros with it
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On February 03 2014 03:59 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2014 03:28 CustomKal wrote:On February 03 2014 03:19 idonthinksobro wrote:
vlads on ursa is not overrated, overpower in combination with a vlads is like a satanic. You can get blink first if you are laning but not getting vlads at all is a really bad call. Or you could have a blink dagger that has no mana cost anymore and be an influence on the game. Vlads is only good when you're allowed to beat on someone, which you can't do without blink or bkb. Its a farming item, and ursa is not really a farming hero. Yea lets just rush an 2100 gold item first, seems like a genius idea.
Cause vlads isn't worth 2k right?
On February 03 2014 03:31 idonthinksobro wrote:
the question is not if it is possible rather if it is good. Vlads is an item that is cheap, increases your farm speed, and gives you a lot of extra survivability in fights assuming you don't get stunlocked.
Assuming you don't get stunlocked is assuming your opponents are bad. You are not going to get to walk up and into their team to hit on someone. You either need a blink, or a bkb. Vlads doesn't nothing for early fighting at all.
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Early blink on ursa can be very traumatizing, anything will just melt under his blink in combo especially if you dont have appropriate disables in team.
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