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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 02 2014 12:05 GMT
#95621
On February 02 2014 11:34 Targe wrote:
i used to play off my mobile phone's internet signal and i didnt have 3G, this lead to many abandons

Holy shit Targe, I had no idea. My respect for you just went up 50x
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 02 2014 12:06 GMT
#95622
why does it say northern ireland and not just regular ireland
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 02 2014 12:22 GMT
#95623
On February 02 2014 21:06 FinestHour wrote:
why does it say northern ireland and not just regular ireland

Because we gotta be difficult
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 02 2014 12:34 GMT
#95624
On February 02 2014 09:43 trinxified wrote:
Which games featured carry Naga Siren lately? All I know is, that's it's Meracle that brought it back?

sadboys vs ehug if you want to see the best naga siren world
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 02 2014 13:21 GMT
#95625
Glorious return of paralleluniverse for 6.80

what did he post before he edited it out
ffxiv enjoyer
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
February 02 2014 13:42 GMT
#95626
Yo, don't mock the the glorious, one and only true dota scientist, Sprancel. n_n
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
February 02 2014 13:43 GMT
#95627
Ok I just remember that guy from the Xbox One thread, what has he done here before?
But does it djent?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 02 2014 13:46 GMT
#95628
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359&currentpage=534#10663

Keep reading till you hit graphs, that's what he is famous for
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 02 2014 14:00 GMT
#95629
I never knew riki and ursa were overpowered, thanks for explaining this to me paralleluniverse!
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 14:22:06
February 02 2014 14:21 GMT
#95630
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
February 02 2014 14:26 GMT
#95631
Mangix
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 02 2014 15:44 GMT
#95632
On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.

Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 16:44:32
February 02 2014 16:27 GMT
#95633
On February 03 2014 00:44 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.

Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf.

Fury swipe duration increased. And his cast time was improved significantly which helps with earthshock.
To me that's an overall buff, improving the casting of earthshock helped the hero so much.

To me the overall improved cast-time outweighs the fact that overpower now has a cast-time.
But as you said, it's arguable.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 02 2014 16:44 GMT
#95634
On February 03 2014 01:27 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 00:44 Alur wrote:
On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.

Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf.

Fury swipe duration increased. And his cast time was improved significantly which helps with earthshock.
To me that's an overall buff, improving the casting of earthshock helped the hero so much.

To me the overall improved cast-time outweighs the fact that overpower now has a cast-time.


Considering his popularity before and after the change, as well as his winrate, I'd safely say ursa was much stronger with zero casttime in overpower. Eartshock never had such a long casttime that you couldn't hit it if you blinked on top of someone. While overpower now takes away precious seconds of dps (or cast it beforehand, which you can't if you go for shadow blade instead of blink).

Fury swipe duration increase does nothing except against roshan.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 02 2014 16:46 GMT
#95635
fury swipe duration increase doesnt even work on roshan...
and if you have ever laned with ursa you would know what a gigantic fucking deal the duration increase is.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 02 2014 16:47 GMT
#95636
On February 03 2014 01:46 PassiveAce wrote:
fury swipe duration increase doesnt even work on roshan...
and if you have ever laned with ursa you would know what a gigantic fucking deal the duration increase is.


Was my most played hero for a good while. I know how that overpower nerf hurt, and how I stopped playing him soon after because I stopped being useful with him.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 02 2014 16:48 GMT
#95637
On February 03 2014 01:44 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 01:27 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2014 00:44 Alur wrote:
On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.

Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf.

Fury swipe duration increased. And his cast time was improved significantly which helps with earthshock.
To me that's an overall buff, improving the casting of earthshock helped the hero so much.

To me the overall improved cast-time outweighs the fact that overpower now has a cast-time.


Considering his popularity before and after the change, as well as his winrate, I'd safely say ursa was much stronger with zero casttime in overpower.

If ursa was the only thing changed then this would be true, but plenty of other heroes also got changed at the same time. Ursa's drop in winrate and popularity can also be because other heroes were buffed more than him or trends are currently favouring another hero.

To me having the improved earthshock helps a ton in lane, since you know, you don't always have a blink on ursa and you can't always expect to be able to blink onto people in the middle of a fight. Having that overall improved casttime helps him a ton IMO and made him and overall better hero.

Also improved duration of fury swipes helps outside of rosh, in a fight it increases the time where a person can potentially not risk engaging you again. Having to wait 15 seconds instead of 6 seconds to re-engage ursa can make a big diffence.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 16:49:56
February 02 2014 16:49 GMT
#95638
hes always been a shit hero imo, you probably stopped owning with him because you got better at the game and started getting matched up against people who dont suck as much.

But the fury swipes buff is actually kind of a big deal for him.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
February 02 2014 16:50 GMT
#95639
On February 03 2014 01:48 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 01:44 Excludos wrote:
On February 03 2014 01:27 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2014 00:44 Alur wrote:
On February 02 2014 23:21 Unleashing wrote:
And they've only been buffed since then, how absolutely crazy icefrog is.
Truly a madman with no equal.

Ursa is somewhat arguable, giving overpower castime was a significant nerf.

Fury swipe duration increased. And his cast time was improved significantly which helps with earthshock.
To me that's an overall buff, improving the casting of earthshock helped the hero so much.

To me the overall improved cast-time outweighs the fact that overpower now has a cast-time.


Considering his popularity before and after the change, as well as his winrate, I'd safely say ursa was much stronger with zero casttime in overpower.

If ursa was the only thing changed then this would be true, but plenty of other heroes also got changed at the same time. Ursa's drop in winrate and popularity can also be because other heroes were buffed more than him or trends are currently favouring another hero.

To me having the improved earthshock helps a ton in lane, since you know, you don't always have a blink on ursa and you can't always expect to be able to blink onto people in the middle of a fight. Having that overall improved casttime helps him a ton IMO and made him and overall better hero.

Also improved duration of fury swipes helps outside of rosh, in a fight it increases the time where a person can potentially not risk engaging you again. Having to wait 15 seconds instead of 6 seconds to re-engage ursa can make a big diffence.


I can agree with that. The game has changed a lot since then.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 16:53:43
February 02 2014 16:50 GMT
#95640
Cast time on Overpower is huge, there's no way a couple of small buffs make a bigger impact. IceFrog tried to remove it not only once, but twice, and it just didn't work.

You also have to remember that the issue with Ursa was never pro games, and in the scenario he was an issue, Earthshock being buffed, for example, is not as meaningful.
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