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Qbek
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:17 NB wrote: man look at the skadi icon.... jezuz That's an eye alright lol. Anyone have a picture of the secret shop items yet? | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
Any argument that you have that Tiny can control better than someone else due to their play, well there are plenty of heroes that can beat that if they outplay that. If we are assuming both have perfect play well QoP and many others should always win then. Storm Spirit can win, anyone with a ranged stun or longer stun or lockdown. Shadow Demon or OD can imprison, this argument is retarded if you're trying to say "You ca'nt beat a perfect tiny in rune control" well then you're an idiot if you're assuming your low-level play can't beat a perfect tiny. Equal skill, plenty heroes can grab the runes over Tiny. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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paper
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:29 Zlasher wrote: Also, people are saying they hate the icons, you don't hate them you're just not used to them yet. If they were the original icons that you've seen since playing and watching Dota2 you wouldn't complain, everything they have here is an improvement from larger icons and numbers that we can see visually to more detailed graphics. i still miss half of the dota1 icons | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:18 scorch- wrote: Ava range is 875. One good ward and QoP can't touch a rune. And a 1 second stun is going to let you cover a 700 range deficit? Or let you ignore a 20% slow? Not even considering the fact that Tiny should get crushed in that matchup at level 1 and his bottle should be considerably later than QoP's. Meaning that she will have Boots sooner for contesting future runes. EDIT: My only response to the new icons--How the hell is that thing armlet? | ||
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scorch-
United States816 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:28 Zlasher wrote: Why is there some argument that you can't rune control vs tiny lol. Any argument that you have that Tiny can control better than someone else due to their play, well there are plenty of heroes that can beat that if they outplay that. If we are assuming both have perfect play well QoP and many others should always win then. Storm Spirit can win, anyone with a ranged stun or longer stun or lockdown. Shadow Demon or OD can imprison, this argument is retarded if you're trying to say "You ca'nt beat a perfect tiny in rune control" well then you're an idiot if you're assuming your low-level play can't beat a perfect tiny. Equal skill, plenty heroes can grab the runes over Tiny. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying this guy is dumb if he's going to complain about someone not controlling runes vs tiny in his pub, especially if the team is giving up early kills to tiny. Also, I think you're wrong if you think that if a tiny and QoP are both playing perfectly then the QoP should win runes. At best, QoP can take 50/50. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
On April 26 2012 03:47 dragonborn wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Rlj6T.jpg?1) fucking amazing. | ||
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Unleashing
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scorch-
United States816 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:41 TheYango wrote: And a 1 second stun is going to let you cover a 700 range deficit? Or let you ignore a 20% slow? Not even considering the fact that Tiny should get crushed in that matchup at level 1 and his bottle should be considerably later than QoP's. Meaning that she will have Boots sooner for contesting future runes. You're right, that exaggeration was dumb. But, Tiny will always have access to a 50% chance at a rune if he wants it just by leaving early. QoP can't contest that. At best, Tiny leaves once the rune spawns and QoP is fast enough to get to it first and be out of range of combo. 20% slow though? I guess you can get in 400 range if you have enough hp to survive a combo. QoP needs some items for that to happen. | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:56 scorch- wrote: You're right, that exaggeration was dumb. But, Tiny will always have access to a 50% chance at a rune if he wants it just by leaving early. QoP can't contest that. At best, Tiny leaves once the rune spawns and QoP is fast enough to get to it first and be out of range of combo. 20% slow though? I guess you can get in 400 range if you have enough hp to survive a combo. QoP needs some items for that to happen. Tiny wont have mana to pull off his combo often early and it's relatively weak early on and she can dagger -> blink away. And if tiny leaves early just to get 50% of the runes, QOP will only get even further ahead, QOP will just outlevel him largely and outfarm him making him unable to stay in the lane later on. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 26 2012 04:56 scorch- wrote: 20% slow though? I guess you can get in 400 range if you have enough hp to survive a combo. QoP needs some items for that to happen. She only needs to Shadow Strike if Tiny uses Avalanche to slow her down. If he uses Avalanche to slow her down, then she's not at risk of being comboed. | ||
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United States7542 Posts
Still it's pointless. Clearly Tiny is good at getting runes and clearly blink heroes, especially ones like QoP are able to mitigate his effectiveness a bit and snatch runes if they play well. Someone like Puck can also jaunt in and silence or phase to avoid Tiny's abilities. That's all there really is to say about it. | ||
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danielimotbh
Canada130 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:19 Firebolt145 wrote: Is using a macro program to help play invoker against the ToS? I'm pretty sure it is. Just practice using http://dl.dropbox.com/u/75495922/InvokerTrainer.htm .. People always overestimate how hard it is to learn his skills. The real problem is staying cold and using the proper spells at the right time. | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
On April 26 2012 05:19 Firebolt145 wrote: Is using a macro program to help play invoker against the ToS? I'm pretty sure it is. It's giving you an advantage other players don't have, it is in no way fair. And i think this part of the steam subscriber agreement explains that it really is not okay to use it: Steam and the Software may include functionality designed to identify software or hardware processes or functionality that may give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions of any Software, other Valve products, or modifications thereof ("Cheats"). You agree that you will not create or assist third parties in any way to create Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats. You acknowledge and agree that either Valve or any online multiplayer host may refuse to allow you to participate in certain online multiplayer games if you use Cheats in connection with Steam or the Software. Further, you acknowledge and agree that an online multiplayer host may report your use of Cheats to Valve, and Valve may communicate your history of use of Cheats to other online multiplayer hosts for Valve products. Valve may terminate your Account or a particular Subscription for any conduct or activity that Valve believes is illegal, constitutes a Cheat, or which otherwise negatively affects the enjoyment of Steam by other Subscribers. You acknowledge that Valve is not required to provide you notice before terminating your Subscriptions(s) and/or Account, but it may choose to do so. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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