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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On November 10 2013 19:33 Kaniol wrote: Because moba is a term spread by LoL players and DOTA has too many people who can't stand both games being good  Moba as a term was invented by a scumbag who organized tournaments and then just stole the money. Pretty on par with Sayuri, just less infamous. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
but i still fail to see why some of you are so touchy for most people in the real world dota is so abstract that no term can possibly "explain" it in short. when someone asks me about dota i just say it's a multiplayer computer game and if they dont give me the eyes and are genuinely interested in knowing more i try to explain for what it is the reality is more people play and know about league than dota and for good reason.it may not be a better game but it's way more appealing to the majority than dota,so why have this inferiority complex of being stuffed in the term basket with games that are practically identical to anyone that doesn't know about the details.it's not like you are going to change their opinion with just a vague term,it's still going to be "oh that game that's kinda similar to LoL right" to the outside guy. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On November 10 2013 20:38 TheKefka wrote: yea i understand why valve cares but i still fail to see why some of you are so touchy for most people in the real world dota is so abstract that no term can possibly "explain" it in short. when someone asks me about dota i just say it's a multiplayer computer game and if they dont give me the eyes and are genuinely interested in knowing more i try to explain for what it is the reality is more people play and know about league than dota and for good reason.it may not be a better game but it's way more appealing to the majority than dota,so why have this inferiority complex of being stuffed in the term basket with games that are practically identical to anyone that doesn't know about the details.it's not like you are going to change their opinion with just a vague term,it's still going to be "oh that game that's kinda similar to LoL right" to the outside guy. Why not call it by the actual name of its genre? arts? Its both easy to say and actually has meaning enough to explain what the game is about. And its not bound to any specific game, so no one has to be angry about "but thats X's name for it! We rather use Y's name" | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
On November 10 2013 20:54 Excludos wrote: Why not call it by the actual name of its genre? arts? Because that's your opinion. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
in other words On November 10 2013 19:44 kirsed wrote: It all comes back to fuck Pendragon for me. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
Its not "just ur opinion maaan" on this one. Games have categories that they fall within since the dawn of video game time. fps, rts, mmo, rpg, etc. They all describe what game they fall under. Action rts is the description of rts games where the focus is on the action, such as dota, lol, hots, awesomenauts, etc. These games are obviously here to stay, so its obviously not a good idea to use the name of the first (or more popular) game to describe them all. The same reason we don't describe certain games as "gta clone" anymore. Its now "sandbox" games. Its more neutral, easy to understand, and everyone can use it. Its quite obvious why LoL can't use "dota", and why Valve can't use "moba". So why do we have to make it more difficult by being stubborn instead of reasonable? | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 10 2013 21:11 RockIronrod wrote: Imagine you had this group of friends that you hung out with all the time, and you had a jolly good time and you had no need for titles or anything. Then one of your friends burns down the club house, posts a sign saying "these guys are gay here's my group of friends hang with us" and then decides that any group of people hanging out like you did are called Dongleshwazzers and tells everyone to call it that. in other words yea i get that but my point is that the vast majority have nothing to do with that conflict and didn't even play the game when it happened.It's fine that you want to call a game a certain way but the sheer douchebaggery that comes out of these ITS NOT MOBA ITS ARTS FU NOOB posts is just hilariously sad. like i literally couldn't care less about pendragon and what he did | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On November 10 2013 21:16 Excludos wrote: Its not "just ur opinion maaan" on this one. Games have categories that they fall within since the dawn of video game time. fps, rts, mmo, rpg, etc. They all describe what game they fall under. Action rts is the description of rts games where the focus is on the action, such as dota, lol, hots, awesomenauts, etc. These games are obviously here to stay, so its obviously not a good idea to use the name of the first (or more popular) game to describe them all. The same reason we don't describe certain games as "gta clone" anymore. Its now "sandbox" games. Its more neutral, easy to understand, and everyone can use it. Its quite obvious why LoL can't use "dota", and why Valve can't use "moba". So why do we have to make it more difficult by being stubborn instead of reasonable? So Valve can't use a term that was coined by Riot but Riot can use a term that was made up by Valve. Nice logic man. And do games like Starcraft not focus on the action? | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On November 10 2013 21:22 RockIronrod wrote: That's great that you don't care about the shit Pendragon pulled, but a lot of people do, for good reason. You can't just invalidate that because you personally don't care. There's a reason SaviOr isn't playing in WCS despite the fact that the majority of people following SC2 now probably weren't around for the scandal, and it's the same reason why people think Pendragon is a rancid cunt who shouldn't be able to name the genre he tried to kill. Hey man, you should really talk about this in the off topic GD thread. This doesn't belong here. + Show Spoiler + Am I doing this right? | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On November 10 2013 21:22 Yoshi- wrote: So Valve can't use a term that was coined by Riot but Riot can use a term that was made up by Valve. Nice logic man. And do games like Starcraft not focus on the action? If you're gonna pull of that card, we can classify 3/4 of games under the rpg/action/adventure genre. Don't be absurd. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On November 10 2013 21:56 Andre wrote: If you're gonna pull of that card, we can classify 3/4 of games under the rpg/action/adventure genre. Don't be absurd. That is exactly my point, those genre names are arbitrary, saying that Moba is inferior to Arts, because Moba describes every game is just bullshit, since they both describe pretty much everything. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On November 10 2013 09:36 cecek wrote: Yeah, I know Jaedong is on EG, but I still don't know what team SOS is on after watching around 40 minutes of the tournament. That is mindblowing, if you think about it.. I mean, it's the biggest event of the year, so there will be a ton of people watching that don't normally watch SC2 and you don't even make the effort to let them know who sponsors one of the best players. sos is one of the few remaining players on woojin stars, alongside neo.g.soulkey who was also at blizzcon. casters said at some point, maybe right at the end. so hes not some faceless royal roader, hes been playing since bw as shy on woojin | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
Action Real Time Strategy? Lol, what's that supposed to define? | ||
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spacer
Netherlands2786 Posts
On November 10 2013 22:04 Testuser wrote: I think ARTS is a pretty shitty genre name, haha. Action Real Time Strategy? Lol, what's that supposed to define? Still better than moba :D | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Also I can't believe this discussion is happening yet again again again agaaaaiiinn | ||
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