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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 02:18:57
November 09 2013 02:17 GMT
#86101
On November 09 2013 11:14 Kuroeeah wrote:
Id like some perspective from the pro CS community on what they think of Valve now that they started to do some more work on GO. They were very vocal in speaking against Valve and their lack of support for many years and I can see why given what they have done to Dota.
By pro community you're talking about players? If so they seem generally happy with the direction that game is taking and how Valve started to support it a couple of months ago. Obviously most didn't like what was done with CS 1.6 but you have to consider that it was a different time. Developers weren't expected to support eSports, it was an enormous bonus if they did. So the things which Valve did to CS like updating before a big tournament or making changes the competitive community didn't like, quite frankly wasn't that big of a deal back then because of eSports. They were a big deal because the general playerbase didn't like the changes either.

As for the rest of the community, well that's not quite the same.
Once you Goblak...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#86102
On November 09 2013 11:14 Kuroeeah wrote:
Id like some perspective from the pro CS community on what they think of Valve now that they started to do some more work on GO. They were very vocal in speaking against Valve and their lack of support for many years and I can see why given what they have done to Dota.

go find interviews they've talked about this plenty
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
November 09 2013 02:18 GMT
#86103
On November 09 2013 09:50 SilverStar wrote:
Aaaaaaaand that was WCS for me. Back to dota 2.

Haha me too. Watched 15 minutes of starcraft and now I dont have to care until DHWinter .
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 03:30:34
November 09 2013 03:30 GMT
#86104
On November 09 2013 11:12 SilverStar wrote:
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[image loading]


Ursa set with the g-league ticket. It's kinda meh.


Can you sell the set on the market? I want to buy the ticket but 15$ is waaaaaay too much.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 04:27:55
November 09 2013 04:27 GMT
#86105
Stacking evasion feels so weird on Huskar . Anyone have good ideas on how to Huskar this patch? The lack of bonus damage from his passive makes his laning so weak.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 09 2013 04:58 GMT
#86106
huskar with weak laning
are we playing the same game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 06:26:21
November 09 2013 06:25 GMT
#86107
On November 09 2013 10:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
-How unsupportive they were to the competitive CS scene? (the pro CS community has been very vocal about this)

...

Id like some perspective from the pro CS community on what they think of Valve now that they started to do some more work on GO. They were very vocal in speaking against Valve and their lack of support for many years and I can see why given what they have done to Dota.

I got to talk to HeatoN in person last weekend, and he think's Valve has handled everything with CSGO really, really well.
EZ4ENCE
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
November 09 2013 07:04 GMT
#86108
Valve needs to do The International for CSGO also.

That would make me pick the game up again.
Skol
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
November 09 2013 07:32 GMT
#86109
On November 09 2013 13:58 FinestHour wrote:
huskar with weak laning
are we playing the same game


That seems to be all he has though.

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On November 09 2013 16:04 Emnjay808 wrote:
Valve needs to do The International for CSGO also.

That would make me pick the game up again.

That's what Dreamhack Winter is essentially though no?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 09 2013 08:00 GMT
#86110
Apparently S&Y almost has the same stigma as Vanguard regarding how bad the item is? Why is that? I personally enjoy it on some heroes...
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 09 2013 08:21 GMT
#86111
SnY is rarely good. Just like Vanguard, its very over-represented in being picked up,by bad players
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 08:26:12
November 09 2013 08:25 GMT
#86112
the that extra 4% movespeed counts for a lot because mspeed in this patch is at a premium. its one of the few ways that heroes who want to be sticky can up that stat efficiently. phase drums sny is as legit as ever on naix and some others.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 09 2013 08:45 GMT
#86113
i'd say that pool is pretty limited tho
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 09 2013 08:48 GMT
#86114
it's actually 6% over yasha
it's legit on a handful of melee carries
it's ok on a couple other heroes too like krob and razor
but it makes u run 16% faster that's so good
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 08:57:13
November 09 2013 08:54 GMT
#86115
On November 09 2013 16:32 kirsed wrote:.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2013 16:04 Emnjay808 wrote:
Valve needs to do The International for CSGO also.

That would make me pick the game up again.

That's what Dreamhack Winter is essentially though no?

Im just gonna speak my mind, but please correct me if Im wrong.

Dreamhack is just Dreamhack, its a huge lan with a bunch of tournies showcased for different games.

If something happens, like a big standalone event for CSGO (much like TI Dota 2), then it would attract so much more attention. Run it like TI, where each region a invite, even if they are non-relevant they can still pick up exposure and grow from there.

But I dont think Valve has the manpower or resources to run both CSGO and Dota 2 Internationals and keep them up to the standards they have now.
Skol
akaRobin
Profile Joined January 2012
159 Posts
November 09 2013 09:33 GMT
#86116
Hi, I do not know if this the right place here but I have a question.

In recent days I had repeatedly lost connections to Dota2Network. So I have several abandon games and am therefore in the low priority matchmaking pool for "six days".

Can I do something?

Thanks and excuse my bad english
"Yellow SCV so imba" MC MKP @HSC IV
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
November 09 2013 09:43 GMT
#86117
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2013 17:54 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 16:32 kirsed wrote:.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2013 16:04 Emnjay808 wrote:
Valve needs to do The International for CSGO also.

That would make me pick the game up again.

That's what Dreamhack Winter is essentially though no?

Im just gonna speak my mind, but please correct me if Im wrong.

Dreamhack is just Dreamhack, its a huge lan with a bunch of tournies showcased for different games.

If something happens, like a big standalone event for CSGO (much like TI Dota 2), then it would attract so much more attention. Run it like TI, where each region a invite, even if they are non-relevant they can still pick up exposure and grow from there.

But I dont think Valve has the manpower or resources to run both CSGO and Dota 2 Internationals and keep them up to the standards they have now.


I'm just saying Dreamhack is like that since they did the compendium thing for it just for all purchases in cs:go.



SnY is the pubstomp carries best item I think. Besides that it's only really good on Naix I think.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 09:57:13
November 09 2013 09:55 GMT
#86118
S&Y has been chain-buffed over the past few years, it's a fine item now on some heroes.
Vanguard is still a bit meh in most situations.

Edit:
On November 09 2013 12:30 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 11:12 SilverStar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Ursa set with the g-league ticket. It's kinda meh.


Can you sell the set on the market? I want to buy the ticket but 15$ is waaaaaay too much.

Uh, it's 7€ for me, not anywhere near 15$
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 10:13:02
November 09 2013 10:09 GMT
#86119
Valve needs to seriously fix the random->repick bug. It makes it really hard to repick into melee heroes that need a Stout Shield.

Basically the random gold bonus is only +200 gold as of 6.79, BUT, the gold penalty from random gold is still 350 gold and not 300 gold. Starting with 475 gold off random->repick means you don't have enough starting gold to start with Stout+double regen.

This actually means that you start with LESS gold from random->repick than if you pick->repick.
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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 10:13:37
November 09 2013 10:13 GMT
#86120
Kinda Dota related. Kaci Aitchison won the best local tv personality here in Seattle.

http://best.king5.com/best/local-tv-personality/people/western-washington/slideshow (this isn't loading for me this does just slowly http://best.king5.com/ )
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