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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On September 10 2013 07:36 TheYango wrote: In a real game, she wins if she gets to Soul Ring (partly because of the DotA 2 bug where the Soul Ring mana buffer allows you to cast spells you don't have enough Intel to cast). In tournament 1v1 its a lot harder if Soul Ring isn't allowed. Of course, then it's Broodmother, who's even more lane-centric than OD is. RoB or clarity potions are pretty effective if you're restricting soul ring. Enchantress and Undying have potential to do well too I believe. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On September 10 2013 07:46 TheYango wrote: Also, I've said this before, Viper/OD comes down to creep control. Because if one side gets the creep wave frozen on their high ground, the other side isn't going to have a way to break the equilibrium, neither are bottle/rune heroes, and both heroes don't have escapes so they can't just play on the other guy's high ground. If one guy manages to stabilize the lane on his high ground the other hero spends the rest of laning last-hitting from low ground. OD vs viper is slightly in favour of od. but basically the better player wins that | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 10 2013 07:53 Kishin2 wrote: RoB or clarity potions are pretty effective if you're restricting soul ring. The problem isn't just regen, the problem is having 120 max mana up often enough. Soul Ring bypasses this because it adds the 150 mana buffer which allows you to cast Spiderlings with 1 Intel (even though this should not be the case--the Soul Ring mana buffer isn't supposed to allow you to cast spells that your Intel is too low to cast even if the amount of mana it gives you is enough to cast the spell). | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 10 2013 08:17 trinxified wrote: What's the standard item buildup for PA? I got flamed for getting BFury in 16 mins, saying it sucks so bad for PA. What am I suppose to get? Rush BKB? Why didn't you tell him that PA farms faster than AM? | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On September 10 2013 08:29 Kuroeeah wrote: i had some real interesting games recently and...they all involved bloodseeker I had some and they all involved MoM Aghs Ench doing stupid things. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On September 10 2013 08:22 TheYango wrote: BFury is not bad on PA but it kind of sucks in pubs because it stalls your development for a long time. The problem isn't just regen, the problem is having 120 max mana up often enough. Soul Ring bypasses this because it adds the 150 mana buffer which allows you to cast Spiderlings with 1 Intel (even though this should not be the case--the Soul Ring mana buffer isn't supposed to allow you to cast spells that your Intel is too low to cast even if the amount of mana it gives you is enough to cast the spell). Why not? Item description states that it adds 150 mana temporarily, so it has nothing to do with INT. I guess WC3 Dota feature? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
bfury is fine on pa. the other common build is phase wand drums (midas) -> bkb -> basher, hotd, vlads, yasha, mkb, etc | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
 I've been pissing away games thinking BFury is standard on PA like it is on AM.I guess Phase/Wand/Drums/BKB is the way to go? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
Build around that ideal. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Nocticate
Vatican City State2902 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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