• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:47
CEST 13:47
KST 20:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 236Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
NaDa's Body BW General Discussion BSL Season 23 screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7804 users

General Discussion - Page 3731

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 3729 3730 3731 3732 3733 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 17:04:04
August 28 2013 16:58 GMT
#74601
--- Nuked ---
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 17:01:33
August 28 2013 17:01 GMT
#74602
On August 29 2013 01:57 Yoshi- wrote:
Well, that leaked 6.78 changelog was pretty bullshit, either the QB change got inspired from that changelog, or both IF and the fake leak creator had the same idea.

I think occams razor is telling me that you and I were just wrong at the time
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 28 2013 17:01 GMT
#74603
Timber hooking to his ulti would be amazing. It would also break him further.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
August 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#74604
hahaha some of these changes

"Enigma:
Added Aghanim's Scepter:
Cast range increased to 300
Enemies in a 850 AoE have their turn rate slowed by 55% and are pulled towards the center of the Black Hole at 100ms if they are facing it
Duration increased from 4 to 4.5"

"Using items and abilities won't reveal Rikimaru in Permanent Invisibility"

"Life Drain slightly reworked:
Pugna can move during the channel with a fixed movement speed of 150. Attacking, using items or getting disabled will still break the channel"

and many more hahahaha

textbookcovers.tumblr.com
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#74605
Well nothing is really shocking imo, except perhaps the 300 range black hole.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#74606
Thing about enigma is he is already a key mek carrier who needs BKB and Blink most games as well. Add boots, TP scroll and something like a wand or wards or w/e and you are already full. When would you ever get an aghs? (Even if that obviously false patchnote was true).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 28 2013 17:26 GMT
#74607
Only way I would get Ags on Enigma is if it added a free blink to the ulti that couldnt get toggled off by damage.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 28 2013 17:28 GMT
#74608
On August 29 2013 02:24 MrCon wrote:
Well nothing is really shocking imo, except perhaps the 300 range black hole.


huskar added to cm



get real pls
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
August 28 2013 17:30 GMT
#74609
I would get an aghanim on Enigma if Black Hole would get global



Totally not OP
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 17:38:20
August 28 2013 17:37 GMT
#74610
What's the best hero to become Vangod with these days?

I was thinking Centuar (HP gives direct benefit, can overcome boot needs with ultimate...)

I'm going to try this later today.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 17:42 GMT
#74611
If only HP gave a direct benefit to centaur (it don't).

The no-boots thing is a definite issue though. Maybe lycan with his ult but vanguard doesn't do anything for him. Weaver neither.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
August 28 2013 17:45 GMT
#74612
On August 29 2013 02:16 Autotroph wrote:
hahaha some of these changes

"Enigma:
Added Aghanim's Scepter:
Cast range increased to 300
Enemies in a 850 AoE have their turn rate slowed by 55% and are pulled towards the center of the Black Hole at 100ms if they are facing it
Duration increased from 4 to 4.5"

"Using items and abilities won't reveal Rikimaru in Permanent Invisibility"

"Life Drain slightly reworked:
Pugna can move during the channel with a fixed movement speed of 150. Attacking, using items or getting disabled will still break the channel"

and many more hahahaha



Terrorblade had a walking life drain at some point, but at full MS, was pretty annoying to deal with.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#74613
On August 29 2013 02:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
If only HP gave a direct benefit to centaur (it don't).

The no-boots thing is a definite issue though. Maybe lycan with his ult but vanguard doesn't do anything for him. Weaver neither.

Well, stacking HP means more return damage.

Not exactly good, but whatever, i'm not sure thats the biggest issue when doing this.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 17:48 GMT
#74614
On August 29 2013 02:46 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 02:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
If only HP gave a direct benefit to centaur (it don't).

The no-boots thing is a definite issue though. Maybe lycan with his ult but vanguard doesn't do anything for him. Weaver neither.

Well, stacking HP means more return damage.

Not exactly good, but whatever, i'm not sure thats the biggest issue when doing this.

Have you read return recently?

It scales off of strength not HP. Which is part of why vanguard on centaur is so criminally bad.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 28 2013 17:49 GMT
#74615
On August 29 2013 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 02:46 Comeh wrote:
On August 29 2013 02:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
If only HP gave a direct benefit to centaur (it don't).

The no-boots thing is a definite issue though. Maybe lycan with his ult but vanguard doesn't do anything for him. Weaver neither.

Well, stacking HP means more return damage.

Not exactly good, but whatever, i'm not sure thats the biggest issue when doing this.

Have you read return recently?

It scales off of strength not HP. Which is part of why vanguard on centaur is so criminally bad.


he's saying the more hp you have the more people can attack you therefor the more return damage you give out in an absolute value. he isn't saying HP makes the return do more damage per instance (like str does).
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 28 2013 17:50 GMT
#74616
do ursa vangod, scales with hp, has imba slow, best scaling hero in long fights
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2013 17:51 GMT
#74617
On August 29 2013 02:50 Qbek wrote:
do ursa vangod, scales with hp, has imba slow, best scaling hero in long fights

All you need is people to come give you a hug!
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 18:01:21
August 28 2013 18:01 GMT
#74618
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#74619
Anybody have a link to the knights of light strat? I really can't find it
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
August 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#74620
Crystal walking faster sounds too good to be true.
If you seek well, you shall find.
Prev 1 3729 3730 3731 3732 3733 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 24
IntoTheiNu 652
RotterdaM292
Rex91
SteadfastSC60
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 292
ProTech139
Rex 91
Has 76
SteadfastSC 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19261
Shuttle 3064
firebathero 1701
Bisu 1141
BeSt 419
Light 252
Stork 250
Rush 219
Mini 192
Last 129
[ Show more ]
Snow 84
hero 58
PianO 56
Shinee 47
Sharp 44
Hyun 41
Shine 36
ToSsGirL 31
Aegong 30
JYJ 30
zelot 25
Hm[arnc] 24
Sexy 24
HiyA 22
sorry 19
Dota 2
Gorgc5518
Dendi656
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_69
Other Games
olofmeister1026
B2W.Neo514
XBOCT375
Lowko293
crisheroes280
DeMusliM193
Livibee134
Mew2King80
QueenE42
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream11348
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 459
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile127
• StrangeGG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV160
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
22h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.