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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
The blog post from Genna: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693 Takes point of view: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693¤tpage=24#461 Read both and form your own opinion. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:18 Gentso wrote: You guys seriously polluting these forums with that nonsense? Like, what happens in someone's mind to even bring it up here? Wtf... ? someone wanted a summary, i gave one, cecek tried to make an argument out of it, and now you are perpetuating it. so you have no room to talk do you? | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:15 SKC wrote: If anyone is actually interested in this, here is: The blog post from Genna: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693 Takes point of view: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=425693¤tpage=24#461 Read both and form your own opinion. My opinion is that Flash would have magically won game 2 against Jaedong in the MSL finals after the power went out. So i'm playing at a Lan tournament in Chicago and vykro will be casting the tournament. Most of the players are bad. I'm looking to try and sneak my way into cocasting with vykro after the team im standing in for gets knocked out. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:22 Comeh wrote: My opinion is that Flash would have magically won game 2 against Jaedong in the MSL finals after the power went out. So i'm playing at a Lan tournament in Chicago and vykro will be casting the tournament. Most of the players are bad. I'm looking to try and sneak my way into cocasting with vykro after the team im standing in for gets knocked out. Is that the one spit-wad and merlini are attending? | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote: Is that the one spit-wad and merlini are attending? Mhm. Last time Merlini showed up with possi, took like 2 photographs, did 4 1v1's, and peaced in like under an hour (he lost once to someone much worse than him). Was kind of funny really. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
Edit: Nvm it's back | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 16 2013 23:21 Comeh wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1iox0w/number_of_normal_slashes_during_omnislash_in_dota2/ +383 IAS actually. So yeah, that's not a realistic number. That's particularly interesting to me. Omnislash felt a bit different, I thought it was just my nostalgia fucking around with my memory of dota 1. tl;dr version of that link: Dota 1 omnislash gets you 1 extra normal attack per slash at 320 ias. Also the number of extra slashes was actually random below that point. Dota 2 omnislash trails 1 or 2 normal attacks behind at 320 ias. However it actually does 13 normal attacks during the 12 slash omni at max attackspeed. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
DotA 2 simply does not have this property. There are a couple minor gameplay implications of this, this just happens to be one of them. | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:12 TheYango wrote: The reason that number of slashes was somewhat random in DotA 1 is because WC3 had a hard-coded property called "Attack Reaction Delay" where any unit making an attack has a variation of up to about 0.25s in when they make an attack. This does not affect your overall attack speed but affects when you *start* an attack. The reason for the ARD is so that when you have multiple identical units issued an attack order, having their attacks all perfectly synced might feel disconcerting, so the randomized delay was meant to make it feel more "natural". DotA 2 simply does not have this property. There are a couple minor gameplay implications of this, this just happens to be one of them. I remember some people telling me that it was slightly harder to last hit in war3 dota, because of a certain something, I dismissed that as just random fanboyish though. Maybe it actually is true then.... Quite surprising that it's been left out, it seems a pretty big change especially when tey are trying to keep the game as same as possible and 0.25..is a long time when your trying to last hit correctly. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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tapes
487 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 17 2013 02:40 Plansix wrote: Real question: Mek vs Vangard in the world of personal protection, how much less does the MEK provide for the cost of the massive team heal? It provides more except at the cost of some mana (not usually an issue for viper) and ~150g more overall price. The 5 armor is better than 10 or 20 damage block, the heal is the same amount of HP as a vanguard provides, plus the 5 all-stats are useful and give you a higher HP total once you add the heal. Its not remotely close to a sacrifice to opt for mek over vanguard. Vanguard is simply no longer a good item in comparison to many, many other options. | ||
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