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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 16 2013 11:14 GMT
#72241
On August 16 2013 18:42 beef42 wrote:
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On August 16 2013 18:38 TheEmulator wrote:
On August 16 2013 18:37 beef42 wrote:
Uh aren't omnislashes magical too?

No they are physical.


how the hell did i get that idea...

Get ghost scepter vs jugger, never get killed by his ulti : ))
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Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 11:25:42
August 16 2013 11:21 GMT
#72242
Lol keep mistaking the qq and gd threads : <
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#72243
On August 16 2013 18:27 BurningSera wrote:
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On August 16 2013 18:10 Gheizen64 wrote:
Medallion of courage is about as much damage as Agha, for single target purpose. It also help for roshing, and other things. If you go full push, phase, aquila, wand, medallion, deso it's extremely cheap and allow you to deal a lot of damage during omnislashes too.


Medal is a my staple item on hardlane jug or when i need to go full team fight mode having a shitty safelane. If i weren't the only carry in the team i'd go deso in some situations too.

And about agha again i wont touch it unless my atkspeed+atk damage are good enough to justify its cost (usually during mid-late game). And ghost scepter/forcestaff etc will surely be annoying for you but it is all about the timing that you use it, you knew that they are afraid of your ulti and they want to save their ghost for you, go cut them force them to use ghost lol and then ulti for RAMPAGE; if your team was solely relied on your ulti then chances is that you probably gonna lose because jug is a pretty bad hero to 1v5 (unless you were snowballing hard so in that case whatever item you make doesnt matter).

The thing is that you should probably avoid that agha if the oppo started to get ghost during mid game, so if i was buying agha i'd prefer to get the item in one go, surprise agha jug best. And the timing of using ulti is pretty the same with or without agha anyway.

But ghost scepter on supports often means you instakill their carry. Besides it's 1 more second of invulnerabilty. I like mana boots mek on offlane jugg then aura items.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
August 16 2013 11:29 GMT
#72244
I like getting aghs and shadowblade on juggernaut when I'm part of a dual/tri-core and I'm ahead. It helps with the clowning around.
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
August 16 2013 11:39 GMT
#72245
im like addicted to lone druid, he was my favorite hero before, but like, i play him so much that im not used to like, basic heroes, i tried playing qop today and i just couldnt do it, my lone druid is like so much better than all my other heroes, i need to get back to randoming, but i just like winning... other than lone druid who else solo dominates against duel lanes? other than darkseer?
Flash Fan!
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#72246
On August 16 2013 20:29 Baggage wrote:
I like getting aghs and shadowblade on juggernaut when I'm part of a dual/tri-core and I'm ahead. It helps with the clowning around.

Agh -> refresher is where the clowning is at, trust me! :p
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 16 2013 11:58 GMT
#72247
Why would you get mana boots on Jugg? Soulring does a good enough job with mana for him (and you usually need the mana to cast ward, which heals the hp right back), and phaseboots are just too good to pass, especially early on.
super gg
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#72248
On August 16 2013 20:58 cecek wrote:
Why would you get mana boots on Jugg? Soulring does a good enough job with mana for him (and you usually need the mana to cast ward, which heals the hp right back), and phaseboots are just too good to pass, especially early on.

Mana boots are for mates and mek. Obviously you buy wards and stuff too.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Reivax
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden214 Posts
August 16 2013 12:13 GMT
#72249
On August 16 2013 14:18 Vaelone wrote:
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On August 16 2013 13:56 KezseN wrote:
I saw a Jugg went MoM drums phase and finally a butterfly because he was owning... I dont get it but OK if it works it works


I've never tried it personally but I can see it working.

MoM should allow you to land more hits during Omnislash and I guess you can move faster while spinning as well, so you're going to be immune to early game damage for most of the duration and once your immunity runs out everything is dead anyway.

Definitely going MoM Jugg next time I play him actually.

And yeah I love when people fountain farm bots. Haven't seen anyone all chat bm bots yet though, still waiting for that.


MoM is great on jugg because you can activate it before ult for extra slashes, and afterwards you can chase with autoattacks or purge the buff/debufff with spin if things are bad.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 16 2013 12:56 GMT
#72250
http://forum.navi-gaming.com/navi_dota/dendi_interview_translation_for_his_international_fans/

a very nice interview with dendi got translated, very nice read. esp perspective of the team in the games (and that game changing roshan steal in game 5)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 16 2013 13:15 GMT
#72251
So I had another great game as DarkSeer last night. He is one of the most fun characters to play and this punch animation is hilarious(the sound effect it great too).

So beyond soul ring, mana boots, mek, pipe and aghas, what other items do people like to build on him? Any good low costs items? What else fits well to make him every more of a tank?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 16 2013 13:22 GMT
#72252
Shiva maybe? Not sure
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 13:29:45
August 16 2013 13:27 GMT
#72253
shiva, hex, refresher
I also wouldnt get pipe very often, if they have a bunch of magic dmg or something hard to push against like tinker or kotl, often hex is better
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 13:30:45
August 16 2013 13:30 GMT
#72254
BKB is good if the enemy has many disables and you want to be sure that your wall goes down.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 16 2013 13:30 GMT
#72255
Vanguard is to pricey and the HP regen is redundant with all the stuff to get from MEK. Buckler is fine for a while but I was looking for some middle of the road item that didn’t require nearly 5k investment. I will have to dig around in the armor items and see what makes sense.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 16 2013 13:31 GMT
#72256
On August 16 2013 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Vanguard is to pricey and the HP regen is redundant with all the stuff to get from MEK. Buckler is fine for a while but I was looking for some middle of the road item that didn’t require nearly 5k investment. I will have to dig around in the armor items and see what makes sense.

casual vit booster for an eventual heart later.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 13:32:56
August 16 2013 13:32 GMT
#72257
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 16 2013 13:32 GMT
#72258
On August 16 2013 22:27 cilinder007 wrote:
shiva, hex, refresher
I also wouldnt get pipe very often, if they have a bunch of magic dmg or something hard to push against like tinker or kotl, often hex is better


Pipe is totally optional and directly based on the number of AOEs we are facing. I used it with MEK yesterday against a very good Sandking and it took so much steam out of their team fight. But its not an every game item.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 16 2013 13:40 GMT
#72259
Items that aren't mentioned:

Vlads is really good on DS. Heavens halberd is ok on darkseer as well.

You won't get much out of the attackspeed on AC but the aura helps your team a lot. If you don't have a good AC hero on your team you could consider getting it.

Ghost scepter vs melee heavy / bkb vs magic heavy. BKB sometimes is really crucial so you don't die before you get your combo off due to chainstuns.
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Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#72260
Blink Blink Blink Blink Blink

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