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On August 16 2013 21:13 Reivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 14:18 Vaelone wrote:On August 16 2013 13:56 KezseN wrote:
I saw a Jugg went MoM drums phase and finally a butterfly because he was owning... I dont get it but OK if it works it works I've never tried it personally but I can see it working. MoM should allow you to land more hits during Omnislash and I guess you can move faster while spinning as well, so you're going to be immune to early game damage for most of the duration and once your immunity runs out everything is dead anyway. Definitely going MoM Jugg next time I play him actually. And yeah I love when people fountain farm bots. Haven't seen anyone all chat bm bots yet though, still waiting for that. MoM is great on jugg because you can activate it before ult for extra slashes, and afterwards you can chase with autoattacks or purge the buff/debufff with spin if things are bad.
Chances are, you won't get any extra attacks. You might increase from 0->1 (forgot the value of IAS needed).
You need something like 330 or 340 ias to go from 1->2 attacks per slash, which is a pretty hard to get to number.
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On August 16 2013 22:59 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 21:13 Reivax wrote:On August 16 2013 14:18 Vaelone wrote:On August 16 2013 13:56 KezseN wrote:
I saw a Jugg went MoM drums phase and finally a butterfly because he was owning... I dont get it but OK if it works it works I've never tried it personally but I can see it working. MoM should allow you to land more hits during Omnislash and I guess you can move faster while spinning as well, so you're going to be immune to early game damage for most of the duration and once your immunity runs out everything is dead anyway. Definitely going MoM Jugg next time I play him actually. And yeah I love when people fountain farm bots. Haven't seen anyone all chat bm bots yet though, still waiting for that. MoM is great on jugg because you can activate it before ult for extra slashes, and afterwards you can chase with autoattacks or purge the buff/debufff with spin if things are bad. Chances are, you won't get any extra attacks. You might increase from 0->1 (forgot the value of IAS needed). You need something like 330 or 340 ias to go from 1->2 attacks per slash, which is a pretty hard to get to number.
How old is that number? The reason I ask is that Jugg's BAT went down a bit in a patch at some point which would change the IAS number quite a bit I would think.
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On August 16 2013 23:15 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 22:59 Comeh wrote:On August 16 2013 21:13 Reivax wrote:On August 16 2013 14:18 Vaelone wrote:On August 16 2013 13:56 KezseN wrote:
I saw a Jugg went MoM drums phase and finally a butterfly because he was owning... I dont get it but OK if it works it works I've never tried it personally but I can see it working. MoM should allow you to land more hits during Omnislash and I guess you can move faster while spinning as well, so you're going to be immune to early game damage for most of the duration and once your immunity runs out everything is dead anyway. Definitely going MoM Jugg next time I play him actually. And yeah I love when people fountain farm bots. Haven't seen anyone all chat bm bots yet though, still waiting for that. MoM is great on jugg because you can activate it before ult for extra slashes, and afterwards you can chase with autoattacks or purge the buff/debufff with spin if things are bad. Chances are, you won't get any extra attacks. You might increase from 0->1 (forgot the value of IAS needed). You need something like 330 or 340 ias to go from 1->2 attacks per slash, which is a pretty hard to get to number. How old is that number? The reason I ask is that Jugg's BAT went down a bit in a patch at some point which would change the IAS number quite a bit I would think.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1iox0w/number_of_normal_slashes_during_omnislash_in_dota2/
+383 IAS actually.
So yeah, that's not a realistic number.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Apparently there's a gigantic drama going on in SC2 with TB, Take and Axiom. And all we have in Dota are some lousy roster reshuffles.... The closest thing to drama was xboct's VK tweet, which had no follow up at all.
How boring. 
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Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
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On August 16 2013 23:37 cecek wrote:Apparently there's a gigantic drama going on in SC2 with TB, Take and Axiom. And all we have in Dota are some lousy roster reshuffles.... The closest thing to drama was xboct's VK tweet, which had no follow up at all. How boring.
That is because Dota is a good game so we don't need the drama.
Joking obviously.
Or am I?
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On August 16 2013 23:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna.
EDIT: if you want more detail Genna put up a blog announcing her retirement, and TB has a blog with a 15 minute recording explaining his thoughts on the matter.
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On August 16 2013 23:21 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:15 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 16 2013 22:59 Comeh wrote:On August 16 2013 21:13 Reivax wrote:On August 16 2013 14:18 Vaelone wrote:On August 16 2013 13:56 KezseN wrote:
I saw a Jugg went MoM drums phase and finally a butterfly because he was owning... I dont get it but OK if it works it works I've never tried it personally but I can see it working. MoM should allow you to land more hits during Omnislash and I guess you can move faster while spinning as well, so you're going to be immune to early game damage for most of the duration and once your immunity runs out everything is dead anyway. Definitely going MoM Jugg next time I play him actually. And yeah I love when people fountain farm bots. Haven't seen anyone all chat bm bots yet though, still waiting for that. MoM is great on jugg because you can activate it before ult for extra slashes, and afterwards you can chase with autoattacks or purge the buff/debufff with spin if things are bad. Chances are, you won't get any extra attacks. You might increase from 0->1 (forgot the value of IAS needed). You need something like 330 or 340 ias to go from 1->2 attacks per slash, which is a pretty hard to get to number. How old is that number? The reason I ask is that Jugg's BAT went down a bit in a patch at some point which would change the IAS number quite a bit I would think. http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1iox0w/number_of_normal_slashes_during_omnislash_in_dota2/+383 IAS actually. So yeah, that's not a realistic number.
Is this for reaching exactly 2 attacks between each omnihit? I mean you go1-1-1-2-1-1-1 between the omnihits?
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On August 16 2013 23:45 PrinceXizor wrote:Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna.
Wow, that is a really balanced point of view, and is not biased towards one side whatsoever! I think my favorite is when you say "being completely open about what happened" instead of "posting private business emails on the internet without the other side's approval".
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On August 16 2013 23:48 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:45 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 16 2013 23:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna. Wow, that is a really balanced point of view, and is not biased towards one side whatsoever! I think my favorite is when you say "being completely open about what happened" instead of "posting private business emails on the internet without the other side's approval".
? I was referring to people bitching about Genna's retirement blog post, not the post that started it. regardless its not important at all for you to comment on.
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On August 16 2013 23:48 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:45 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 16 2013 23:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna. Wow, that is a really balanced point of view, and is not biased towards one side whatsoever! I think my favorite is when you say "being completely open about what happened" instead of "posting private business emails on the internet without the other side's approval".
And people wonder why drama pops up on all the forums etc...
E: In case I wasn't clear, I'm referring to the way a good-faith summary of what happened is INSTANTLY insulted and questioned in a very demeaning manner. I'm not even a little bit commenting on who was in the right in that particular situation.
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On August 16 2013 23:55 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:48 cecek wrote:On August 16 2013 23:45 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 16 2013 23:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna. Wow, that is a really balanced point of view, and is not biased towards one side whatsoever! I think my favorite is when you say "being completely open about what happened" instead of "posting private business emails on the internet without the other side's approval". And people wonder why drama pops up on all the forums etc...
LOL.
Regardless i posted an unbiased list of facts about what happened, and my bias was against the drama the formed around it for no reason other than to attempt to "defend" Take or witchunt TB. Oddly no one attacked Genna for what she did, but instead went after TB. which is pretty much how TB would prefer it.
IN other news, Finally got around to getting my TL stream address changed, How does D2GD want a Dota 2 Centric Stream to be? just me playing and having reactions to what i do, me trying to analyze my own play afterwards, teaching based, ect?
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Unbiased doesn't really exist.
Regarding a stream, tbh I just watch Pros and celebs 
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So you try to escape this bullshit drama from SC2/Blogs section and you bring it here? Get the fuck out.
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On August 17 2013 00:01 Sn0_Man wrote:Unbiased doesn't really exist. Regarding a stream, tbh I just watch Pros and celebs
i used to be somebody in starcraft 2, does that count? i'd be on the celebrity big brother of esports. B or C tier celebrities unite. lol
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On August 16 2013 23:58 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 23:55 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 16 2013 23:48 cecek wrote:On August 16 2013 23:45 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 16 2013 23:40 Yoshi- wrote:
Wanna recap the sc2 drama?
Genna posted a part of a conversation with Take while explaining stuff in a blog, Take got pissed and threatened legal action, it was the straw that broke camels back for Genna who was dealing with a tons of stress as well as diagnosed depression, she stepped down as manager of axiom and TB is taking her place. all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did. TB is saying he's gonna be far more professional for his teams sake now and stop posting on reddit or TL, he even deleted his reddit account. People complain about that as well. Doesn't seem to be any drama other than stuff of random commenters making. Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna. Wow, that is a really balanced point of view, and is not biased towards one side whatsoever! I think my favorite is when you say "being completely open about what happened" instead of "posting private business emails on the internet without the other side's approval". And people wonder why drama pops up on all the forums etc... LOL. Regardless i posted an unbiased list of facts about what happened, and my bias was against the drama the formed around it for no reason other than to attempt to "defend" Take or witchunt TB. Oddly no one attacked Genna for what she did, but instead went after TB. which is pretty much how TB would prefer it. IN other news, Finally got around to getting my TL stream address changed, How does D2GD want a Dota 2 Centric Stream to be? just me playing and having reactions to what i do, me trying to analyze my own play afterwards, teaching based, ect?
Can you juggle?
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
In case I wasn't clear, this is where saw the bias:
"Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna."
"all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did."
You can't possibly say that it was just a list of facts, that's ridiculous. Not like I give a shit really, all I know about axiom is that they have korean starcraft players and that it's owned by TB.
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On August 17 2013 00:06 Sbrubbles wrote:
Can you juggle?
Nah, but i can drink. 
On August 17 2013 00:07 cecek wrote:
In case I wasn't clear, this is where saw the bias:
"Just a shitty situation for TB and Genna."
"all the "drama" is resulting from people being pissy about Axiom being completely open about what happened and why the changes were being made. Some of the drama are people defending Take no matter what he did."
You can't possibly say that it was just a list of facts, that's ridiculous. Not like I give a shit really, all I know about axiom is that they have korean starcraft players and that it's owned by TB.
ah well like i said i listed the facts and then was demeaning to the drama afterwards. xD axiom is incredibly well known for being open about everything. from finances to whats going on to discussions they are having that aren't NDA'd.
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On August 17 2013 00:01 Sn0_Man wrote:Unbiased doesn't really exist. Regarding a stream, tbh I just watch Pros and celebs
I was on german television. Wanna see me stream? :x
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On August 17 2013 00:07 PrinceXizor wrote:Nah, but i can drink.
Juggling chainsaws and drinking go incredibly well together!
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