• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:53
CEST 01:53
KST 08:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL19Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)16Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN Can anyone explain to me why u cant veto a matchup The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Karma, Domino Effect, and how it relates to SC2. Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator
Tourneys
EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group B DreamHack Dallas 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO12 - Group A RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO20 Group B - Saturday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Monster Hunter Wilds Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 18513 users

GLHF

Blogs > Intricacy
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 37 38 39 Next All
This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Pg 36
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
August 16 2013 03:41 GMT
#1
So here we are again. I didn't actually think it would be so soon as I rarely ever write blog posts, but here we go...

Over the past few years, I have been a number of things : An eSports fan, event makeup artist, talent manager, event organizer/producer, and most recently, team owner.

Nearly one year ago, Jae Won (CranK) and I founded Axiom. Our dream was to create a team that would have slow growth, yet recruit players who were passionate about enhancing their career as Starcraft 2 professionals. If we want to look at all that Axiom has accomplished, most would look to the player's results on Liquipedia, others would take note of the $50,000 in winnings our guys have managed to secure for themselves in under a year in addition to their stable salaries. I prefer to look at how they have grown as young men.

When I first met CranK, our ability to communicate with each other was a challenge. He definitely had a good grasp of English, (which is better than a lot of us could ever hope to achieve in Korean) but compared to now, it is night and day. Today he is capable of translating posts, interpreting for others and rarely has to reach for an English to Korean dictionary. He really worked hard to improve his skills so he could connect with his fans and that is just one of the things I am so proud of him for. Over the past twelve months, I have seen CranK's confidence grow in leaps and bounds. He hasn't just managed to captain and coach a successful team, but a stellar GSTL team in AxiomAcer. CranK and I have gone through challenging times together, but no matter what was going on personally or professionally, we took it on together. Jae Won will always be more to me than a pro player and I am grateful for the day that Reddit brought the two of us together.

Creating Axiom allowed me to meet so many wonderful people.

Miya brought so much joy to the Axiom house. His retirement has left a void that to this day has yet to be filled. I'm certain that a personality like Miya's can never be replaced.

Ryung, who will forever be my second son with his competitive arcade battles with my 10 year old, Orion. His cute regional accent always giving me so many smiles that brightened even the worst days. His accomplishments since joining Axiom are numerous and I couldn't be prouder of him.

Alicia disappeared from the scene for months after concluding that no team wanted to hire him, then asked to join Axiom even without a salary (we forced him into taking one) just so he could play the game he loves. This is the same guy who took 2nd place in several NA events last year and is still reaching amazing heights in his career in WCS NA and the WCS Global Finals. His passion is one that I am truly inspired by.

Heart seems to have it all. He trains hard, has a great sense of humor and is one of the few players I know who can manage to have a girlfriend and still remain competitive. He really is the whole package and even though his transition from WoL to HotS has been a bumpy one, he has shown perserverence and a strength I wish others could learn from.

It is with deep regret and a severe sadness that I am announcing my retirement from Axiom. Over the past twelve months, I have done my best to give everything I could to my team and to the community. As I've stated before in a past blog, I understand that sometimes my best is not going to be good enough.

Regardless of how hard one might try, there are always going to be situations where we as humans lack foresight. At this very moment I have a certain Dennis Gehlen (Take) wishing legal action upon me for a blog post I wrote yesterday explaining what happened behind closed doors regarding Axiom's involvement with ATC.

[6:50:52 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: hey genna
[6:51:04 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: are you serious putting
[6:51:07 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: my private chats with you
[6:51:09 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: online
[6:51:15 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: where i talk about acers
[6:51:16 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: decisions?
[6:51:23 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: which never have to be public?
[6:51:25 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is crazy
[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?
[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
[6:51:54 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: that you posted it online
[6:51:55 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: 10 times
[6:52:02 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: more than u can ever imagine
[6:52:14 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: cause there you let acer look very bad
[6:52:19 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: wow
[6:52:27 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i didnt even see it when i saw ur post
[6:52:37 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i just read some but someone from my team has shown me this part
[6:52:41 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: of our private conversation

This is what happens behind closed doors I guess. I understand that maybe some people in eSports are uncomfortable with my unorthodox methods of lifting the veil, but what exactly is there to hide? Aside from the fact that Dennis is paying in part for Team Liquid to come to the ATC finals, I don't see any particularly sensitive information. Sure, they asked the sponsor for more funds to help with travel, is that a bad thing? I made mention that Acer had a contract with TakeTV for a set amount to fund ATC, seems pretty standard to me... Anyway, I guess TIL that if people post chat logs even in an attempt to make you look good in a bad situation, it shouldn't be done and I should just be sued and/or arrested.

As with anything, there is a light and a dark side to eSports. Do not forget that there are players who are having their salaries cut (even though they are under contract), contracts being augmented without warning, organizations being bullied by others and forced into financial instability. Yet, there are the amazing success stories, the supportive fans and great people working towards making this community a better place. I'd ask you to evaluate which side of the coin you belong to and survey the impact it has on the scene around you.

I would like to thank everyone who has supported me during my time as a team owner, as well as those who supported me in all of my eSports endeavors. I'd like to extend some particular thanks to the following individuals (in no particular order). It is without a doubt in a community with so many wonderful people, I will forget to thank someone. Please know that I will continue to cherish all of you.

John Bain, Olivia Wong, Jae Won Choi, Joon Sik Yang, Min Hyuk Kim, Dong Won Kim, Seong Won Mun, Yun Sik Choi, Susie Kim, Cristian Baltoc, Scott Smith, Marcus Graham, Rod Breslau, Geneviève Forget, Manuel Schenkhuizen, Tricia Sugita, Cristian Tamaş, Ben Nichol, Sundance DiGiovanni, Ilyes Satouri, Sue Lee, Jason Lake, Kevin Knocke, JP McDaniel, Jana Otahalova, Marcus Eklöf, John Sargent, Alex Rodriguez, Brandon Qual, Sophie Jung, Jonathan Belke, Adam Contini, Greg Fields, Andrew Christoforou, Anna Prosser Robinson, Mark Ferraz, Tara Babcock, Adam Apicella, Joshua Gray, Brandi Plemmons, Alexander Garfield, Cassandra Ng Schenkhuizen, Michael O'Dell, Justin Ignacio, David Ting, Shawn Simon, Ryan Thompson, Geoff Robinson, Josh Sutherland, Shaun Clark, Jos De Kroon, Mike Lamond, Uwe Semtner, Kevin van der Kooi, Chris Loranger, Helena Kristiansson, Marc Olivier, Samayan Kay, & Michael Van Driel.

I am leaving Axiom in the capable hands of my partner in business, and in life, John "TotalBiscuit" Bain. I am more than confident that he will take the team to new heights. I hope to see many of you at future events where I will be cheering Axiom on from within the crowd. Thank you all for the adventure. GLHF

***
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
August 16 2013 03:43 GMT
#2
Woah this I did not expect.
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
August 16 2013 03:46 GMT
#3
;_;
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#4
Well, crap.....
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#5
My favorite owner no more
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:48:30
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#6
Axiom is screwed. Slayers is dead. Again. Genna is avoiding the problem instead of facing it.
Qraka
Profile Joined July 2011
United States17 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#7
What a shame.
sykora71
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada3 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#8
I'm sure TB won't let anything get in the way of his team, nobody pushes around the biscuit and his family!
"I should live up to the name." -Lim Yo-Hwan
EmpireEraser
Profile Joined June 2012
United States20 Posts
August 16 2013 03:48 GMT
#9
this is terrible news
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#10
Glhf Jenna (
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
A Fanta Bottle
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada4 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#11
Good luck in the future Genna, you've done one hell of a job creating my favourite team that is Axiom. I love all of the players on Axiom, mad respect to all of them. Thank you for your contribution.
I'll just do me, so you just do you.
philliechease
Profile Joined February 2013
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:53:42
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#12
I don't understand what the problem is. :/ So because she posted a part of a private skype chat (which is done all the time btw) he wants legal action against her?
Team Grubby! :D
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 16 2013 03:49 GMT
#13
wait...what?! O.o
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
August 16 2013 03:50 GMT
#14
woooow o:
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#15
Rofl you can't get in trouble for posting skype chats online without an NDA of sorts. You aren't in the wrong at all, its hilarious that TaKe would even think of something like that.
https://twitter.com/sLideSC2 | (NA)sLide.635 | coL_Sasqautch ~ coL_QXC ~ coL_TriMaster
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#16
what please no
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 01:22:33
August 16 2013 03:51 GMT
#17
(wrote this in the moment, after listening to TB's post and time gone by..)
+ Show Spoiler +
Sad that it had to go this way, I supported your way of doing it but doing it without asking the parties included is just bound to fuck some people over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Posting yet another conversation just come off childish even if you have nothing to lose.


Edit: Tbh I'm disappointed that you stepped down because of this little drama.
Stand STRONG instead!!


Genna you are just fucking incredible to be able to do everything you did while being depressed, I have first hand experience and I can't even imagine being able to do everything like that at different times, yet alone all at the same time!

Genna, here here!
The curse is real
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#18
Huh so does leaving boil down to "I screwed up so I guess its best to just leave". At least on the surface it doesn't seem like you really have to step down because 1 person is upset but what do I know.
Also I don't really understand why you would continue to post chat from someone who is threating legal action, seems like you're just making it worse for yourself.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#19
This little drama really shows we've still got a loooong fucking way to go if we're going to be taken seriously as an industry.

GL HF
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FXOBoSs
Profile Joined August 2011
337 Posts
August 16 2013 03:52 GMT
#20
I am a tiny bit confused how this escalated so quickly but that doesn't matter.

Don't let people push you around Genna, I know TB wouldn't. You've done alot for sc2 and should be proud of your success. Good luck in your future!
www.twitter.com/gosutrading
1 2 3 4 5 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Road to EWC
22:00
Americas Open Qualifiers #2
CranKy Ducklings276
CosmosSc2 104
EnkiAlexander 94
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 429
JuggernautJason222
RuFF_SC2 124
CosmosSc2 104
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 812
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1230
Foxcn607
Coldzera 594
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox580
AZ_Axe189
Mew2King107
Chillindude13
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3936
Khaldor131
Other Games
summit1g14681
Day[9].tv770
shahzam742
C9.Mang0387
JimRising 338
ViBE267
Maynarde155
Skadoodle119
KnowMe36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick819
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• davetesta31
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki34
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22322
• Ler95
League of Legends
• Doublelift4373
• Shiphtur586
Other Games
• imaqtpie1543
• Day9tv770
Upcoming Events
Road to EWC
9h 7m
Road to EWC
10h 7m
Road to EWC
22h 7m
Road to EWC
1d 9h
Road to EWC
1d 16h
BSL Season 20
1d 18h
Sziky vs Razz
Sziky vs StRyKeR
Sziky vs DragOn
Sziky vs Tech
Razz vs StRyKeR
Razz vs DragOn
Razz vs Tech
DragOn vs Tech
Online Event
2 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Road to EWC
2 days
BSL Season 20
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Bonyth vs izu
Bonyth vs MadiNho
Bonyth vs TerrOr
MadiNho vs TerrOr
Doodle vs izu
Doodle vs MadiNho
Doodle vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.