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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 29 2012 16:56 NB wrote: on dota2 topic: will sylla got in CM next week without patch? also why do i keep seeing these midas on sylla when i watch a game? I could farm 18 mins rad just fine without any midas support ~_~ Because people thing double Midas is cute. They don't realize the fact that Radiance bear lets you farm in absurd places means you'll probably end up with more gold just getting your Radiance faster. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 29 2012 17:34 NB wrote: ya, testing out rad bear vs AI... rad 15 min go behind tier 2 farm.... not sure if i should buy my bear vanguard for this shit xD 15min radiance? You'd need 100 creeps at 15min if you start with an empty inventory and rush a straight radiance without any other items. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
right click bear on AI stay 1100 range from the bear collect FB + rampage | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 29 2012 17:47 Shikyo wrote: 15min radiance? You'd need 100 creeps at 15min if you start with an empty inventory and rush a straight radiance without any other items. Tower or hero kills make that much more realistic. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
and its just me in the jungle alone, no tower kill. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On March 29 2012 17:47 Shikyo wrote: 15min radiance? You'd need 100 creeps at 15min if you start with an empty inventory and rush a straight radiance without any other items. Can I see your math on that, since if one creep is like 40 gold 100 creeps is 4000 gold + the gold you get every second I think you get more than enough for radinace and boots with that | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
You passively earn 75 gold per minute, 15min makes this 1125. Oh you were jungling? I find that difficult to believe because when I jungled Sylla it was slow as shit. (Share your secrets) | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Once you get ulti (lv 9 for me) you have to avoid spamming spells too much if ur bear HP is low (75 to summon new one). Stacking strong camp kill the bear way too fast unless you can use the trees + quelling into ur advantage smhow.... i just kite it bc im lazy... will try to do it again tmr... sleep for now  | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
So in the first 15 minutes, "average" is ~45. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
but just in case the replay ID was 9120550.... 15 min and my gold was 3860 | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 29 2012 16:01 Varth wrote: Techies are incredibly fun to pub with, mine up the runes, and once they start getting gem mine on top of hills so they don't see em til last minute. Get a bunch of mana regen and just mine the hell out of map at chokes. Stun mines can be awesome esp when combined with cyclone, tornado em up and immediately stasis mine below, and by the time cyclone is done the mine is set and will then stun em. Suicide is awesome for killing blows and also to deny the opposing team the gold. Set stun traps close to main lanes, so your team can run to em to escape ganks (and also help em gank) i was on my phone so i didn't post a longer reply but now that i'm on my macbook i can anyway, the way you should play techies is first of all, don't leave your lane for minutes just to set up a dozen mines in one spot. use last hit (it's hard, but possible) to get farm, and use land mines if you can guarantee 2 or more creep kills. place mines in advance at spots where ganks could come in, or at rune spots TO SCOUT, not to aim for kills. you should be staying in your base most of the early game once you're like lvl 7-11, you should be pushing towers like a madman. ever since the euls -> guinsoo change, it's gotten a bit harder but with the "newer" items it's now much easier to down towers and hold off early pushes. get soul ring + arcane boots into guinsoo, and you're just gonna down towers like they're creeps traps are preferred at lvl 8 or so because the 1 skill point is better on land mine or suicide. also, please please please don't suicide rush everytime the cd is off -______- late game you should have something like travel, guinsoo, euls, manta, force staff, aghanims, rod of atos (or anything else, even manta is good) | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Have never been a big fan of sheep stick on techies. even though if you get the farm for it, its pretty damn good to get. Most of the time i find eul much more helpful with the extra ms and cyclone is just as good as hex (cmon you wont have a team fight anyway bc your team have a fucking techies) cheers  | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Tryhat
160 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:21 Tryhat wrote: Umm you can get a naked (stout+qb) Radiance in 15 minutes just walking from camp to camp. And yeah, that's about 100 kills, maybe a little less. Sylla is a quick, easy and strong jungler. I don't know why you don't take ulti at lvl 6, since it enables faster jungling plus is the only thing that gives you hp to protect you from ganks (since you're naked and all). And atleast in dota1 true form could give you a melee qb on ranged sylla. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 29 2012 19:15 NB wrote: i think 1 level on suicide is more than enough... you get a bit extra gold early game for mana boot and then just keep the spell as an ganking escape mechanic... i prefer getting trap around 9-10 bc extra stats helps a ton and trap are mostly luck based anyway. Have never been a big fan of sheep stick on techies. even though if you get the farm for it, its pretty damn good to get. Most of the time i find eul much more helpful with the extra ms and cyclone is just as good as hex (cmon you wont have a team fight anyway bc your team have a fucking techies) cheers lvl 4 suicide really stomps hard in pub games because pubs tend to stick together when they push or just like each other too much lol yeah euls has more priority over guinsoo, i didn't make myself clear there woops :p should be arcane/soul ring -> euls -> guinsoo techies back then when euls transited into guinsoo was soooo strong | ||
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