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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:29:28
August 15 2013 11:29 GMT
#601
On August 15 2013 20:15 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 20:11 Fusilero wrote:
On August 15 2013 19:38 pdd wrote:
I don't read Russian, but Google Translate seems to suggest Illidan, KSi and Crazy all have left VP

http://www.virtuspro.org/news/dota2/VPDOTA-rasstayutsya-s-tremya-igrokami/#axzz2bmARE26S

Honestly surprised to see crazy leave, imo he was playing great for VP. Tbh I can't imagine them finding a mid as good as crazy unless they snap up G after LGD.int disbands.

I doubt NS and G will play in the same team again, but who knows. Don't know what's up with Empire, but there's still Scandal.

I feel like empire may try to hold onto LoH and scandal and try to rebuild the team (I'm thinking quantic disband, funn1k off na'vi and goblak/silent/funn1k back to empire :D)
Glorious SEA doto
miwi
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden647 Posts
August 15 2013 11:40 GMT
#602
Lost
Vigoss / God
Dread
NS
Smile
would be quite a team...
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Windexlol
Profile Joined May 2013
United States222 Posts
August 15 2013 11:43 GMT
#603
On August 15 2013 20:07 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 20:05 zeru wrote:
So this means EE is the only non european on Kaipi now.... uh oh....

something something nth


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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:54:09
August 15 2013 11:44 GMT
#604
On August 15 2013 20:40 miwi wrote:
Lost
Vigoss / God
Dread
NS
Smile
would be quite a team...

It would.
But then it will most likely disband after two months because of "internal issues"

EDIT: Not a zealot anymore.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38220 Posts
August 15 2013 11:46 GMT
#605
On August 15 2013 20:44 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 20:40 miwi wrote:
Lost
Vigoss / God
Dread
NS
Smile
would be quite a team...

It would.
But then it will most likely disband after two months because of "internal issues"


2 months is pretty generous =)

Anyway, let's get shuffling
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
August 15 2013 11:59 GMT
#606
Did Na'Vi have a lot of internal issues directly after TI2?
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
August 15 2013 12:06 GMT
#607
XBOCT to VP? Keeping my fingers crossed
Not even death can save you from me.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 15 2013 12:07 GMT
#608
On August 15 2013 20:59 G3CKO wrote:
Did Na'Vi have a lot of internal issues directly after TI2?


They were having issues before TI2. They managed to pull together for TI2 but right after TI2, they started struggling again. So the change happened.

This is different, they were doing fine until the Grand Finals where Hvost and Kky were arguing. This is a huge problem because the players in Na'Vi are all friends. Dendi and Hvost have been friends for awhile, Hvost is also rather close to Funn1k, AND he is friendly with ZG. Dendi is friends with Puppey as well, but Puppey and Kuroky go wayy back.

Either way you see it, unless someone decides to go and be nice about it, someone is connected to someone. Which... just sucks btw to see this happen.

Unless ZeroGravity managed to sort it out, which we do not know because no news has come out of them since.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 15 2013 12:08 GMT
#609
TI4 the return of Artstyle?
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Reesj
Profile Joined August 2010
Sri Lanka47 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 12:14:42
August 15 2013 12:14 GMT
#610
Do you guys know what does Smile going to stay in VP means? If so for XBoct to play with AA he have to join VP as he mentioned(considering reshuffle according to him) in a interview before. This mean ! Dendi, XBOCT and FUN1K will be joing VP. You heard it here 1st!
I though considering way things happened guessed Puppy and Kuro might have to leave Navi than this way around.
treeqt
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany237 Posts
August 15 2013 12:16 GMT
#611
ya get dendi xboct & funn1k out of there so we can have navi.ks.int
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 15 2013 12:17 GMT
#612
--- Nuked ---
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
August 15 2013 12:37 GMT
#613
On August 15 2013 21:08 Kipsate wrote:
TI4 the return of Artstyle?


We can dream
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Dust14
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium490 Posts
August 15 2013 12:40 GMT
#614
On August 15 2013 21:07 Seraphic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 20:59 G3CKO wrote:
Did Na'Vi have a lot of internal issues directly after TI2?


They were having issues before TI2. They managed to pull together for TI2 but right after TI2, they started struggling again. So the change happened.

february/april 2013 =/= right after TI2. Winning tournaments after TI2 = struggling, interesting.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
August 15 2013 13:01 GMT
#615


Things getting tense.
What can change the nature of a man?
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 15 2013 13:08 GMT
#616
On August 15 2013 22:01 renfree wrote:
https://twitter.com/LDdota/status/367992973511753728

Things getting tense.

i hate hearing rumors without any direction instead of just stating what is happening.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
August 15 2013 13:11 GMT
#617
On August 15 2013 22:01 renfree wrote:
https://twitter.com/LDdota/status/367992973511753728

Things getting tense.

Navii :-(

I feel like puppey and kuro might leave the team and if it's true that would really suck as i really think that navi cannot exist without puppey
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
August 15 2013 13:11 GMT
#618
At this point LD may have just been rejected by a girl. No need to rush to conclusions.
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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
August 15 2013 13:12 GMT
#619
On August 15 2013 07:18 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:43 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:19 ZasZ. wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:14 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:06 beef42 wrote:
I don't understand this na'vi drama. Their result was really good. Alliance were unbeatable and they got 2nd. What more do you ask for? Beating EG.eu, eh, Alliance?

So xboct is upset that his supports play like shit. Has there ever been any carry who didn't feel this?


the problem is that they didnt play like shit.

srsly, im pretty sure Xboct is the worst player on navi...


Then you didn't watch any of their games in TI3. Xboct has his share of bone-headed decisions, but he really turned it on for the tournament and showed why he is the carry on the most successful Dota 2 team to date.

If you include drafting as part of Puppey's positive contribution to the team, Funn1k and Kuroky were the ones that stood out as underperformers, unfortunately. That's uncharacteristic for Funn1k, since he's a baller, and maybe had something to do with nerves, but it sounds like the problems with Kuroky may be systemic in nature.

But again, they placed second. If they are looking at it strictly from a performance standpoint, there is really no reason to change up anything. Who are they going to get that is better than what they have, unless they poach players from Alliance, which is just as unlikely?

If there is an attitude/communication problem that surfaced in TI3, then yeah, they should get that fixed soon so they can have a stable line-up for as long as possible heading into next year's tournament. But changing up your team because 2nd place isn't good enough seems too risky a path for an eSports team to take. The difference between 2nd and 1st is training and execution, not personnel.


Don't get too carried away. XBOCT definitely was a major factor in two really important games; TF game 3 and [A] game 5. His decision to chase s4's Puck was pretty indefensible, and his issues in the trilane against TF helped put that game into almost-unwinnable territory. The fact that they did win it is much more to do with mechanics and gimmicks than his play.



As stated, Hvost was the reason why they were in basically unwinnable territory against TF game 3. He ignored Puppey's call to go top with the tri-lane, which resulted in him getting completely shit on at the beginning. The only reason why they came back was because of bug abuse, which even Puppey owned up to in a post match interview.


How is it known that Xboct ignored Puppey's instruction? Did Xboct or Puppey say so in an interview?
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V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
August 15 2013 13:14 GMT
#620
On August 15 2013 22:12 Jragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 07:18 superstartran wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:43 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:19 ZasZ. wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:14 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:06 beef42 wrote:
I don't understand this na'vi drama. Their result was really good. Alliance were unbeatable and they got 2nd. What more do you ask for? Beating EG.eu, eh, Alliance?

So xboct is upset that his supports play like shit. Has there ever been any carry who didn't feel this?


the problem is that they didnt play like shit.

srsly, im pretty sure Xboct is the worst player on navi...


Then you didn't watch any of their games in TI3. Xboct has his share of bone-headed decisions, but he really turned it on for the tournament and showed why he is the carry on the most successful Dota 2 team to date.

If you include drafting as part of Puppey's positive contribution to the team, Funn1k and Kuroky were the ones that stood out as underperformers, unfortunately. That's uncharacteristic for Funn1k, since he's a baller, and maybe had something to do with nerves, but it sounds like the problems with Kuroky may be systemic in nature.

But again, they placed second. If they are looking at it strictly from a performance standpoint, there is really no reason to change up anything. Who are they going to get that is better than what they have, unless they poach players from Alliance, which is just as unlikely?

If there is an attitude/communication problem that surfaced in TI3, then yeah, they should get that fixed soon so they can have a stable line-up for as long as possible heading into next year's tournament. But changing up your team because 2nd place isn't good enough seems too risky a path for an eSports team to take. The difference between 2nd and 1st is training and execution, not personnel.


Don't get too carried away. XBOCT definitely was a major factor in two really important games; TF game 3 and [A] game 5. His decision to chase s4's Puck was pretty indefensible, and his issues in the trilane against TF helped put that game into almost-unwinnable territory. The fact that they did win it is much more to do with mechanics and gimmicks than his play.



As stated, Hvost was the reason why they were in basically unwinnable territory against TF game 3. He ignored Puppey's call to go top with the tri-lane, which resulted in him getting completely shit on at the beginning. The only reason why they came back was because of bug abuse, which even Puppey owned up to in a post match interview.


How is it known that Xboct ignored Puppey's instruction? Did Xboct or Puppey say so in an interview?


Yes, Puppey said that in an interview after that game.
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