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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 12 2013 13:52 GMT
#3561
RisingStars new lineup :

Cty, Sylar, KingJ, QQQ and xdd
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 12 2013 13:58 GMT
#3562
On September 12 2013 22:27 739 wrote:
Zhou is only good if he's given Naix.


?

everytime ig gave him naix i was like why isnt yyf playing th is hero
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 12 2013 13:59 GMT
#3563
nah i just think zhou is just not very good, especially in TF
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renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 12 2013 14:00 GMT
#3564
On September 12 2013 22:35 vndestiny wrote:
All I can say is All Beauty Must Die is one of the best names I've ever heard lol. Btw has DK played any games? I wasnt following the Sina Cup ?? closely.

DK not in this cup due to SEA players arriving late. And as for RStars lineup - never liked XDD, don't think he's on par with the rest. 357 also should have retired long ago, his only good hero is Visage, but you can't expect to have it every game. When he played KotL i just wanted to yell at him - Dude, go watch Akke's replays and never come back until you get a grip of the hero.
What can change the nature of a man?
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 14:14:08
September 12 2013 14:09 GMT
#3565
Wrong thread.
What can change the nature of a man?
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
September 12 2013 14:32 GMT
#3566
On September 12 2013 22:52 739 wrote:
RisingStars new lineup :

Cty, Sylar, KingJ, QQQ and xdd

they should change their name to just Stars
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 12 2013 14:44 GMT
#3567
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
September 12 2013 14:48 GMT
#3568
On September 12 2013 23:00 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 22:35 vndestiny wrote:
All I can say is All Beauty Must Die is one of the best names I've ever heard lol. Btw has DK played any games? I wasnt following the Sina Cup ?? closely.

DK not in this cup due to SEA players arriving late. And as for RStars lineup - never liked XDD, don't think he's on par with the rest. 357 also should have retired long ago, his only good hero is Visage, but you can't expect to have it every game. When he played KotL i just wanted to yell at him - Dude, go watch Akke's replays and never come back until you get a grip of the hero.

This is probably gonna be the last year of 357's career. As long as he can find a 2nd support hero that he's very good with there is value to be had.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 14:52:20
September 12 2013 14:51 GMT
#3569
On September 12 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.

I don't think that competition level went so drastically ahead in a span of a year, from the looks of it just their overall (except mechanical) level has declined.
What can change the nature of a man?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
September 12 2013 17:18 GMT
#3570
On September 12 2013 23:51 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.

I don't think that competition level went so drastically ahead in a span of a year, from the looks of it just their overall (except mechanical) level has declined.

The interview with Goblak on TL's community news quotes him quoting God as saying Zhou was rumored to be getting arrogant and not practising as much as others.
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renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 12 2013 17:21 GMT
#3571
On September 13 2013 02:18 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 23:51 renfree wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.

I don't think that competition level went so drastically ahead in a span of a year, from the looks of it just their overall (except mechanical) level has declined.

The interview with Goblak on TL's community news quotes him quoting God as saying Zhou was rumored to be getting arrogant and not practising as much as others.

Zhou's attitude had nothing to do with competitive level of other teams, so my point stands.
What can change the nature of a man?
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 17:39:09
September 12 2013 17:36 GMT
#3572
On September 13 2013 02:21 renfree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:18 pdd wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:51 renfree wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.

I don't think that competition level went so drastically ahead in a span of a year, from the looks of it just their overall (except mechanical) level has declined.

The interview with Goblak on TL's community news quotes him quoting God as saying Zhou was rumored to be getting arrogant and not practising as much as others.

Zhou's attitude had nothing to do with competitive level of other teams, so my point stands.

maybe just a young guy cant handling the success. dominating 6 months doesnt give you the right at all to act like zhou maybe did. even though they dominated hard. alliance dominated even hard. maybe not longer but harder. the run in china and ti3 was INSANE. but they would never go so far and say we dont need to improve anymore. especially if the team captain is loda(or mental captain or whatever :D ...may be just call it the guiding spirit :D).
so zhou maybe just got blinded and his team was either unable to open his eyes or they were maybe in some kind of slacker mode aswell and therefore not focused enough in trying to change him or didnt care
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
September 12 2013 19:06 GMT
#3573
On September 13 2013 02:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 02:21 renfree wrote:
On September 13 2013 02:18 pdd wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:51 renfree wrote:
On September 12 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
You think it's possible that Zhou and even some other chinese stars were good last year because the competition wasn't very high but now that everyone is better they fell behind ? Or are they just less good than before ?
I mean IG, 6 months gods and 6 months bleh (including 3 months ulgy).
Zhou was revered even here and now he's a noob.

I don't think that competition level went so drastically ahead in a span of a year, from the looks of it just their overall (except mechanical) level has declined.

The interview with Goblak on TL's community news quotes him quoting God as saying Zhou was rumored to be getting arrogant and not practising as much as others.

Zhou's attitude had nothing to do with competitive level of other teams, so my point stands.

maybe just a young guy cant handling the success. dominating 6 months doesnt give you the right at all to act like zhou maybe did. even though they dominated hard. alliance dominated even hard. maybe not longer but harder. the run in china and ti3 was INSANE. but they would never go so far and say we dont need to improve anymore. especially if the team captain is loda(or mental captain or whatever :D ...may be just call it the guiding spirit :D).
so zhou maybe just got blinded and his team was either unable to open his eyes or they were maybe in some kind of slacker mode aswell and therefore not focused enough in trying to change him or didnt care


If you watch Chuan's stream. Zhou was the only one out of iG that didn't play Dota when Chuan was streaming. I've watched Chuan almost every time he went online and Zhou was always walking around or watching anime/film on his screen instead of playing. You can just tell his last hitting skill is worse than before and so does his map awareness. It shows how much lack of practice he is.

I noticed that right now he needs very high survivability heroes like Morphling, Naix, or Weaver and he'll be doing fine. He went 14-0 on his Weaver against Vici and his Naix vs Mineski was beyond godlike also. I guess we'll have to wait and see how good he will do against the better teams like iG or Lgd later.
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 12 2013 20:14 GMT
#3574
Zhou had the worst Weaver out of all Chinese carries prior and at TI3, guess he practiced after it
What can change the nature of a man?
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 12 2013 20:21 GMT
#3575
lol Rotk exacting some revenge against DK... but it's just warm up for the new DK team.
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renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
September 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#3576
On September 13 2013 05:21 TanGeng wrote:
lol Rotk exacting some revenge against DK... but it's just warm up for the new DK team.

Top2 advance into the next stage of NEST or is DK out?
What can change the nature of a man?
Xynch
Profile Joined August 2013
40 Posts
September 13 2013 08:22 GMT
#3577
On September 12 2013 23:32 Delphiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 22:52 739 wrote:
RisingStars new lineup :

Cty, Sylar, KingJ, QQQ and xdd

they should change their name to just Stars


RicingStars is even better
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
September 13 2013 10:49 GMT
#3578
On September 13 2013 05:21 TanGeng wrote:
lol Rotk exacting some revenge against DK... but it's just warm up for the new DK team.

Is there a stream for such match?
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
September 13 2013 21:04 GMT
#3579
What's the info on mouz? From this FATA-thread on reddit that was link in general discussion I understand they more or less disbanded their TI3-team, but I'm not seeing anything in the op here, and neither on liquipedia.
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
September 13 2013 21:55 GMT
#3580
you talking about old mouz right? If so:

paS is playing as a stand-in in is old team uebelst in Starladder
qojqva according to the rumors is going to play for Teamliquid
FATA- is playing with the miggel, MaNia-, Sockshka and 7ckngMad, they are talking to several sponsors according to them (mouz, quantic and flipsid3?)

Black and syndereN are M.I.A. since the international i think
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