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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
September 05 2013 04:11 GMT
#3181
On September 05 2013 12:17 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 08:56 Snorkle wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:36 zaii wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:32 CrazyBirdman wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:27 zaii wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:


PPD is playing for Dignitas in MLG online league, but looks like he's only a standin.


Seems like he screwed his friends over to get a chance to be in a bigger/sponsored team. Now Team Stay Free need to look for a replacement.

But why would Dignitas need six players? Maybe Korok or Bdiz are not yet allowed to play due to contracts or something like that?


They're trying out players, I doubt the Dignitas roster is final.


Looks like EG's new roster isn't doing too well. Darkfalco (NADota player) said on stream that they lost all their games/scrims vs the new Dignitas and Kaipi.


Well from watching the new EG roster stack in IXDL and lose it isn't really surprising. I am kinda bummed they didn't drop Demon. Team could have been so legit if they could just find a way to cut the baggage he brings to the team. Yes he makes big plays sometimes but the guy doesn't have the attitude or the heart of a winner. He tilts hard easily and loses focus equally as easily.

I'll never forget the time Jeyo was going to practice 1v1 mid matchups with him on stream. Jeyo destroyed him 2-3 times and after about 10 minutes Demon said "ok im bored of this" and went back to pubbing.

Say what you will but that right there is when I knew that guy could never be a champion.


The whole new EG NEVER play on ixdl altogether. Just saying... If you are using F D J U M rumor roster, it's been confirmed by the pros on streams and nadota and joindota forums that it's a complete fake rumor for days now.

The rumor is fake, but there may be some substance in the rumor. Universe, Demon, Fear and Jeyo were playing on IXDL together for a number of games (on the same team). Universe and Demon were also Skyping together on a couple of Demon's streams. It means that they have been conversing together and potentially could be in discussions to play together.

While it doesn't confirm anything, there is a small case that playing together in pubs (and on Skype) is a small sign that pros might end up playing together in a team. Definitely room for speculation on that roster. Some examples:

1437 was skyping and playing with Sing a lot before joining Mouz
EGM was skyping and playing together with Loda and his stack before joining Alliance
Jerax and Select were playing together a lot with the rest of QPAD before joining QPAD.
Aui was skyping and playing together with Envy a lot before joining Kaipi.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 05 2013 04:12 GMT
#3182
I thought it was known that Universe was joining EG like, pretty much 100%
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
September 05 2013 04:44 GMT
#3183
On September 05 2013 13:11 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 12:17 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
On September 05 2013 08:56 Snorkle wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:36 zaii wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:32 CrazyBirdman wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:27 zaii wrote:
On September 05 2013 03:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:
https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/375306404594081792

PPD is playing for Dignitas in MLG online league, but looks like he's only a standin.


Seems like he screwed his friends over to get a chance to be in a bigger/sponsored team. Now Team Stay Free need to look for a replacement.

But why would Dignitas need six players? Maybe Korok or Bdiz are not yet allowed to play due to contracts or something like that?


They're trying out players, I doubt the Dignitas roster is final.


Looks like EG's new roster isn't doing too well. Darkfalco (NADota player) said on stream that they lost all their games/scrims vs the new Dignitas and Kaipi.


Well from watching the new EG roster stack in IXDL and lose it isn't really surprising. I am kinda bummed they didn't drop Demon. Team could have been so legit if they could just find a way to cut the baggage he brings to the team. Yes he makes big plays sometimes but the guy doesn't have the attitude or the heart of a winner. He tilts hard easily and loses focus equally as easily.

I'll never forget the time Jeyo was going to practice 1v1 mid matchups with him on stream. Jeyo destroyed him 2-3 times and after about 10 minutes Demon said "ok im bored of this" and went back to pubbing.

Say what you will but that right there is when I knew that guy could never be a champion.


The whole new EG NEVER play on ixdl altogether. Just saying... If you are using F D J U M rumor roster, it's been confirmed by the pros on streams and nadota and joindota forums that it's a complete fake rumor for days now.

The rumor is fake, but there may be some substance in the rumor. Universe, Demon, Fear and Jeyo were playing on IXDL together for a number of games (on the same team). Universe and Demon were also Skyping together on a couple of Demon's streams. It means that they have been conversing together and potentially could be in discussions to play together.

While it doesn't confirm anything, there is a small case that playing together in pubs (and on Skype) is a small sign that pros might end up playing together in a team. Definitely room for speculation on that roster. Some examples:

1437 was skyping and playing with Sing a lot before joining Mouz
EGM was skyping and playing together with Loda and his stack before joining Alliance
Jerax and Select were playing together a lot with the rest of QPAD before joining QPAD.
Aui was skyping and playing together with Envy a lot before joining Kaipi.


I have all the EG member followed on my stream and ALL 4 of these guys only played together in the same team on ixdl 1-2 times at most. And Demon mentioned that F D J U B instead of M is not correct either.

It's usually Demon Fear and Universe plus some random guys on ixdl. MSS usually played one game with them each night. And Demon also has ixdl players on his skype. MSS, Pandaego, wtfbananamagic are the players I've seen on skype with him so far. Can't really take thing seriously from this.

I agree that MSS is likely to join, but then again I noticed something after the game ended, I heard him saying something like "I'm done for the night, I have to keep my time on schedule here". It feels weird for him to join EG and move to SF with such strictly schedule.

Also, Jeyo's spot might not be as safe as we all think.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
September 05 2013 05:01 GMT
#3184
I heard that out of all the reshuffled NA teams + Kaipi that Liquid is the strongest at the moment. Heard that they are doing well in scrimms. I can't wait to see them in weplay.
Don't mind me
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 05 2013 05:07 GMT
#3185
I love it. the story line forming already.

Eternal Envy kicked off the team now known as Alliance, Sing Sing had EGM on his team until EGM said "swedes bro" and the Aui vs Loda rivalry. Now after carefully reforming a group of talented, motivated individuals and one way or another has a story line against [A], Envy has summoned the finest warriors to join his cause into defeating Alliance 3-2 in the grand finals on TI4.

Envy crying while holding up the aegis high thanks all his fans, mom, team and anime. I ALREADY PREDICTED TI4!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 05 2013 05:12 GMT
#3186
if fear doesn't have an entirely new squad I'm going to question his actually abilities as a team leader/captain. He can be the best player in NA but his roster building has been questionable at best. Dota is a 'profession' now so he can dump his friends to try and be a champion, it's not 2007 anymore with nothing on the line.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 05 2013 05:13 GMT
#3187
On September 05 2013 14:12 crms wrote:
if fear doesn't have an entirely new squad I'm going to question his actually abilities as a team leader/captain. He can be the best player in NA but his roster building has been questionable at best. Dota is a 'profession' now so he can dump his friends to try and be a champion, it's not 2007 anymore with nothing on the line.

Fear's drafts are pretty funny.....in a bad way.
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
September 05 2013 05:32 GMT
#3188
On September 05 2013 14:07 Kuroeeah wrote:
I love it. the story line forming already.

Eternal Envy kicked off the team now known as Alliance, Sing Sing had EGM on his team until EGM said "swedes bro" and the Aui vs Loda rivalry. Now after carefully reforming a group of talented, motivated individuals and one way or another has a story line against [A], Envy has summoned the finest warriors to join his cause into defeating Alliance 3-2 in the grand finals on TI4.

Envy crying while holding up the aegis high thanks all his fans, mom, team and anime. I ALREADY PREDICTED TI4!


lol quoted for epicness
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Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
September 05 2013 05:46 GMT
#3189
On September 05 2013 14:12 crms wrote:
if fear doesn't have an entirely new squad I'm going to question his actually abilities as a team leader/captain. He can be the best player in NA but his roster building has been questionable at best. Dota is a 'profession' now so he can dump his friends to try and be a champion, it's not 2007 anymore with nothing on the line.



Why do you think that? You can't play well with people you hate or don't get along with.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 05 2013 05:47 GMT
#3190
I question EG's drive
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
September 05 2013 06:06 GMT
#3191
On September 05 2013 13:12 Shaella wrote:
I thought it was known that Universe was joining EG like, pretty much 100%

Heavy speculation in the community, but absolutely nothing was "known". TBH, while a lot of the speculation has been well founded, to my knowledge, nothing is remotely set in stone yet, even now.
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phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
September 05 2013 06:24 GMT
#3192
On September 05 2013 14:46 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 14:12 crms wrote:
if fear doesn't have an entirely new squad I'm going to question his actually abilities as a team leader/captain. He can be the best player in NA but his roster building has been questionable at best. Dota is a 'profession' now so he can dump his friends to try and be a champion, it's not 2007 anymore with nothing on the line.



Why do you think that? You can't play well with people you hate or don't get along with.


you cant win tourneys with bad players you get along with well either...
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 07:11:01
September 05 2013 07:08 GMT
#3193
Funny how people bashing Demon a lot instead of giving him a chance this year. He's been scrimming and playing dota a lot more than ever. I didn't like him before but at least I'll wait and see with my own eyes before I judge him this time. And people should do the same, unless you're the hater then oh well. Demon is a good player skill-wise. You're blinded and probably know nothing about dota if you think he's bad. He just needs to fix his attitude and be more committed. Fear treats Dota as his job but Demon doesn't. And that's what Demon needs to fix.

Jeyo on the other hand, looks very committed but his hero pull is so small and his skill is not at the top level. And I think he might get replaced because he's the one that makes it hard for Fear to work around the team's position.

And yes, Fear seriously has a major problem at drafting, which is really sad.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 05 2013 07:37 GMT
#3194
On September 05 2013 16:08 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Funny how people bashing Demon a lot instead of giving him a chance this year. He's been scrimming and playing dota a lot more than ever. I didn't like him before but at least I'll wait and see with my own eyes before I judge him this time. And people should do the same, unless you're the hater then oh well. Demon is a good player skill-wise. You're blinded and probably know nothing about dota if you think he's bad. He just needs to fix his attitude and be more committed. Fear treats Dota as his job but Demon doesn't. And that's what Demon needs to fix.

Jeyo on the other hand, looks very committed but his hero pull is so small and his skill is not at the top level. And I think he might get replaced because he's the one that makes it hard for Fear to work around the team's position.

And yes, Fear seriously has a major problem at drafting, which is really sad.

I don't think he's bad. I think he's inconsistent and lacks dedication

He's also one of the biggest playmakers in mid.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 05 2013 08:23 GMT
#3195
What is the new Liquid lineup? Is it known?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 05 2013 08:34 GMT
#3196
Rumored to be Qojqva, Fluff, TC, Bulba, and WayToSexy
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 08:38:26
September 05 2013 08:37 GMT
#3197
At least Fear makes his team play all sorts of different strats from one game to the next, from lategame splitpush, to global ganking, to ubermassive teamfight, to hyperpush strats with lycan, even broodmother strats sometimes. Nearly all other teams try to do the same thing 9 out of 10 games. If this means he sometimes ends up with a stinker of a draft with something like a complete lack of disables then so be it, I'll sure ass hell watch it!

Makes one wonder how much better EG could have performed if they could have settled their roles and focused more on one or two overall strats.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 05 2013 08:59 GMT
#3198
On September 05 2013 16:08 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Funny how people bashing Demon a lot instead of giving him a chance this year. He's been scrimming and playing dota a lot more than ever. I didn't like him before but at least I'll wait and see with my own eyes before I judge him this time. And people should do the same, unless you're the hater then oh well. Demon is a good player skill-wise. You're blinded and probably know nothing about dota if you think he's bad. He just needs to fix his attitude and be more committed. Fear treats Dota as his job but Demon doesn't. And that's what Demon needs to fix.

Jeyo on the other hand, looks very committed but his hero pull is so small and his skill is not at the top level. And I think he might get replaced because he's the one that makes it hard for Fear to work around the team's position.

And yes, Fear seriously has a major problem at drafting, which is really sad.

Perhaps he's scrimming and streaming a lot now because his job is on the line and his contract isn't finalized, and in 6 months he'll be back to league of legend and EG will cry to have trusted him once again.
Lodasrecedinhairline
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom165 Posts
September 05 2013 09:26 GMT
#3199
On September 05 2013 17:59 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 16:08 Lodasrecedinhairline wrote:
Funny how people bashing Demon a lot instead of giving him a chance this year. He's been scrimming and playing dota a lot more than ever. I didn't like him before but at least I'll wait and see with my own eyes before I judge him this time. And people should do the same, unless you're the hater then oh well. Demon is a good player skill-wise. You're blinded and probably know nothing about dota if you think he's bad. He just needs to fix his attitude and be more committed. Fear treats Dota as his job but Demon doesn't. And that's what Demon needs to fix.

Jeyo on the other hand, looks very committed but his hero pull is so small and his skill is not at the top level. And I think he might get replaced because he's the one that makes it hard for Fear to work around the team's position.

And yes, Fear seriously has a major problem at drafting, which is really sad.

Perhaps he's scrimming and streaming a lot now because his job is on the line and his contract isn't finalized, and in 6 months he'll be back to league of legend and EG will cry to have trusted him once again.


May be or may be not. You don't know that. No one knows that. And fyi you shouldn't be blabbling around with a false information, his job and his contract are actually never on the line.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 09:39:07
September 05 2013 09:38 GMT
#3200
Usually starting a sentence with "perhaps" implies "we don't know that" and means people don't have to answer with "we don't know that".
Also I'll speak from authority too and say that his contract was on the line ! I won't provide additional info, I'll just speak like I know it and hope my post was impressive enough for people to not ask how I could possibly know that.
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