• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:13
CET 16:13
KST 00:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Evil Geniuses - shutting down Liquibets sc2 season 30 Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11361 users

Pre-Release Developments and Issues. - Page 9

Forum Index > Diablo 3
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 16 Next All
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 08 2012 00:21 GMT
#161
On January 08 2012 00:05 CoFran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 19:01 Bulkers wrote:
Theres no way that Diablo 3 will be realeased in February, Bashiok said that they aim for Q1 of 2012 but I doubt thats even possible, maybe really late march but thats bad date since march is Mass Effect 3 month...


It would be a bad date for ME3 not D3...

True, ME. is more for console gamers. But on PC, no one can defeat Blizz and their products.
Gourmand
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada101 Posts
January 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#162
http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1216054p1.html

Haven't seen this yet here.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 08 2012 02:44 GMT
#163
On January 08 2012 09:21 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 00:05 CoFran wrote:
On January 07 2012 19:01 Bulkers wrote:
Theres no way that Diablo 3 will be realeased in February, Bashiok said that they aim for Q1 of 2012 but I doubt thats even possible, maybe really late march but thats bad date since march is Mass Effect 3 month...


It would be a bad date for ME3 not D3...

True, ME. is more for console gamers. But on PC, no one can defeat Blizz and their products.


Not really. Mass Effect was big on the PC too. Not saying that it's bigger than Diablo, but saying Mass Effect is more for console gamers is a bad statement.
Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
January 08 2012 05:23 GMT
#164
Don't worry guys, I'm sure it will be out "Soon"!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 07:10:27
January 08 2012 07:06 GMT
#165
Soon is too soon = blizzard soon cocdptualized

Edit :
concdptualized


Wow drunk posting
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 11:55:39
January 08 2012 11:53 GMT
#166
On January 08 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 08:08 maartendq wrote:
On January 08 2012 03:03 Bulkers wrote:
On January 07 2012 23:14 Valashu wrote:
RMAH/Paying to win is a flawed concept imo and Diablo is based around it

People paying extra money so they have better gear to gain an unfair advantage in both PvE and PvP

Not to break OP rules, I am just frustrated about this, why can't they just sell hats?

I want Diablo 3 to come out this month and I secretly hope RMAH gets worked on.



And how diffirent was diablo 2? RMAH is biggest feature of D3

Which in itself is a rather sad thing, if you ask me. A game should never be about making money but about having fun.


I dont see why the two have to be mutually exclusive.

They have to be mutually exclusive because the RMAH destroys fair competition in PvP and PvE, thereby reducing fun for people who take the game seriously.

It would be equivalent to buying better units with more HP and damage in SC2. Sure, you don't need to do it to win, but if you don't you are less likely to win, and if your a competitive player, such as a GM player, you will be obligated to buy it to stay competitive, or risk playing handicapped.

Then of course there will be people treating this like the share market, running statistical models and trading algorithms, turning the "game" into nothing but an unscrupulous profiteering opportunity.

The only way one can have "fun" in Diablo 3 is if one treated the game as seriously as Super Mario Galaxy with friends, and played it for this reason only.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 08 2012 16:14 GMT
#167
I dunno.

I had a lot of fun trading in Diablo 2.

If there wasnt an AH in the game Im sure I would use a different website to help me out with it anyway. Diablo 2's fun was all in the trading really but so many people were afraid of it. I assure you that if you get used to the feeling of trading items you will enjoy the game more than ever.

twitch.tv/medrea
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 17:53:01
January 08 2012 17:51 GMT
#168
On January 08 2012 20:53 paralleluniverse wrote:
It would be equivalent to buying better units with more HP and damage in SC2. Sure, you don't need to do it to win, but if you don't you are less likely to win, and if your a competitive player, such as a GM player, you will be obligated to buy it to stay competitive, or risk playing handicapped.

No.

You can't get better units on your own, no matter how many games you play. You can play enough Diablo and compete with anyone. If you think that there won't be competitive people who haven't spent a cent, you're delusional.

Blizzard should really just drop Korea from the global release. If they're going to be a huge pain in the ass that's their problem, their release can be separate from everyone else.
lagbzz
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 21:04:43
January 08 2012 21:04 GMT
#169
On January 09 2012 01:14 Medrea wrote:
I dunno.

I had a lot of fun trading in Diablo 2.

If there wasnt an AH in the game Im sure I would use a different website to help me out with it anyway. Diablo 2's fun was all in the trading really but so many people were afraid of it. I assure you that if you get used to the feeling of trading items you will enjoy the game more than ever.


God I always had a hard time trading. People just kept waiting and waiting for me to give them more in exchange... That was like talking to a retarded kid about his stupidity... And don't get me wrong I always gave enough stuff in exchange. And I mostly traded low-end gear, so wasting so much more time for a stupid PGM is ridiculous x_x. AH will solve all my problems regarding trading.

Anyway, to the topic. I can't think of any game that was released 2-3 weeks after the release date reveal. And I don't really believe in this whole conspiracy theory about Bashiok being this evil guy, or an uninformed guy.
Midnight release in some shops sounds fishy though, so... after all I hope I'm wrong.
Let us divine :D
appe
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden149 Posts
January 08 2012 22:48 GMT
#170
I hope that isn't the major reason for the game being delayed, since I'll only be playing hardcore mode anyways
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 08 2012 23:29 GMT
#171
On January 09 2012 06:04 lagbzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 01:14 Medrea wrote:
I dunno.

I had a lot of fun trading in Diablo 2.

If there wasnt an AH in the game Im sure I would use a different website to help me out with it anyway. Diablo 2's fun was all in the trading really but so many people were afraid of it. I assure you that if you get used to the feeling of trading items you will enjoy the game more than ever.


God I always had a hard time trading. People just kept waiting and waiting for me to give them more in exchange... That was like talking to a retarded kid about his stupidity... And don't get me wrong I always gave enough stuff in exchange. And I mostly traded low-end gear, so wasting so much more time for a stupid PGM is ridiculous x_x. AH will solve all my problems regarding trading.

Anyway, to the topic. I can't think of any game that was released 2-3 weeks after the release date reveal. And I don't really believe in this whole conspiracy theory about Bashiok being this evil guy, or an uninformed guy.
Midnight release in some shops sounds fishy though, so... after all I hope I'm wrong.


Oh direct trading was awful. You had to do it on forums for sure.

Non forum trading is as retarded as it sounds.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
January 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#172
On January 09 2012 07:48 appe wrote:
I hope that isn't the major reason for the game being delayed, since I'll only be playing hardcore mode anyways



Do not worry, there is a lot more to the delay. The game itself is still being worked on, and we are waiting on the next major patch.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Khaine
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden75 Posts
January 09 2012 04:08 GMT
#173
Isn't this a good thing?

Delays means they're perfecting the game! Be happy o my brothers!
Qpad mk-80 / Logitech G9
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
January 09 2012 04:29 GMT
#174
why are ppl against RMAH i mean i dont like it either but its a better system than stupid D2jsp which is unofficial and a stupid rip-offing website which can ruin the game economy pretty bad.

Without RMAH ppl will turn to D2JSP anyway which is even worse for the game overall imo.
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
January 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#175
On January 09 2012 13:08 Khaine wrote:
Isn't this a good thing?

Delays means they're perfecting the game! Be happy o my brothers!

Why not delay it for a decade and have a perfect game?
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 07:31:06
January 09 2012 07:20 GMT
#176
deleted
74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 07:26:39
January 09 2012 07:23 GMT
#177
On January 05 2012 23:54 Treehead wrote:
I understand that people want to be able to blame the delays on something simple that they can see, but can someone please explain to me how it is that, knowing Starcraft 2 sold nearly 5 milllion copies, and knowing that diablo 3 will likely sell more than that (at $60 a copy that means something probably near $300 million in revenue), the ruling of one rating board in one country would be a sufficient reason for Blizzard's CEO to give their shareholders as to why the game wasn't out for the christmas season where (at least in this country) people tend to shell out a third of their income in a month's time? Again, I understand we want to be upset and don't know what to be upset at (and picking a random thing seems a good outlet for it) - but does this strike anyone else as somewhat ludicrous? I understand the shareholders were told the launch would be global - but if the launch was less than global and still made hundreds of millions of dollars, I doubt the shareholders would flee in droves because the company lied to them.

"Alright guys, I know we've been funding this project for nearly 10 years now, and we're definitely set up to make hundreds of millions of dollars right now - but let's just give Korea another 6 months to a year to make sure they're on board with this."

In a corporate environment where the earnings for the current year (or in some places, the current quarter) tend to be the only item of importance (and also, the main factor in determining bonuses for these executives we seem to want to believe enjoy keeping the game from us), can anyone explain why this idea possibly makes any sense at all?


Because they still get insane revenue from WoW subs every month... and if I was them, I would be worried about that taking a HEAVY hit when diablo 3 comes out... and that's why 'game ain't ready yet'.... The problem with Korea is a minor bump nothing more.. the real delay is a business decision by blizzard... /tin foil hat on
74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
January 09 2012 07:41 GMT
#178
On January 09 2012 13:08 Khaine wrote:
Isn't this a good thing?

Delays means they're perfecting the game! Be happy o my brothers!


With that attitude they should never release the game. There is always something to perfect.

I'm usually patient with developers and like when they take their time. But diablo 3 has taken this to a whole new level. The game was announced almost 4 years ago. That is way too long ago.

I hope Blizzard will never announce games that early again.

I like that there is no word of Titan out yet despite there is "evidence" that the game has been "worked on to some degree" as of 2007.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
January 09 2012 07:41 GMT
#179
Seeing as how what remains of the Diablo 3 fanbase mostly supports the RMAH dogmatically, it's interesting to see you're getting slaughtered in the following poll I made: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=301467

Feel free to make your opinions known in that thread.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
January 09 2012 07:44 GMT
#180
On January 09 2012 16:23 TheArtOfFugue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 23:54 Treehead wrote:
I understand that people want to be able to blame the delays on something simple that they can see, but can someone please explain to me how it is that, knowing Starcraft 2 sold nearly 5 milllion copies, and knowing that diablo 3 will likely sell more than that (at $60 a copy that means something probably near $300 million in revenue), the ruling of one rating board in one country would be a sufficient reason for Blizzard's CEO to give their shareholders as to why the game wasn't out for the christmas season where (at least in this country) people tend to shell out a third of their income in a month's time? Again, I understand we want to be upset and don't know what to be upset at (and picking a random thing seems a good outlet for it) - but does this strike anyone else as somewhat ludicrous? I understand the shareholders were told the launch would be global - but if the launch was less than global and still made hundreds of millions of dollars, I doubt the shareholders would flee in droves because the company lied to them.

"Alright guys, I know we've been funding this project for nearly 10 years now, and we're definitely set up to make hundreds of millions of dollars right now - but let's just give Korea another 6 months to a year to make sure they're on board with this."

In a corporate environment where the earnings for the current year (or in some places, the current quarter) tend to be the only item of importance (and also, the main factor in determining bonuses for these executives we seem to want to believe enjoy keeping the game from us), can anyone explain why this idea possibly makes any sense at all?


Because they still get insane revenue from WoW subs every month... and if I was them, I would be worried about that taking a HEAVY hit when diablo 3 comes out... and that's why 'game ain't ready yet'.... The problem with Korea is a minor bump nothing more.. the real delay is a business decision by blizzard... /tin foil hat on

If Blizzard is going to lose WoW subscriptions to Diablo 3, I fail to see how they would be able to minimize this loss by delaying the game. Nor is there anything to suggest the reason they are delaying the game is because of this conspiracy theory you've given.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
23:00
Patch Clash S1: Monthly #3
RotterdaM280
TKL 147
SteadfastSC60
Liquipedia
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21:00
Not-Summer Champs Playoffs
WardiTV975
Rex112
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 280
TKL 147
Rex 112
SHIN 100
MaxPax 95
SteadfastSC 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4887
Jaedong 1238
Mini 620
Stork 353
BeSt 316
Light 286
firebathero 222
Soma 211
Hyuk 198
Snow 196
[ Show more ]
Rush 196
Soulkey 153
Barracks 114
ZerO 98
sorry 94
hero 93
Sea.KH 84
Zeus 75
Mong 71
Mind 67
Leta 61
Killer 56
Sharp 52
Bale 44
Hyun 43
ToSsGirL 37
Trap 30
Shine 29
Terrorterran 26
Movie 20
soO 20
Hm[arnc] 19
Rock 18
JYJ 16
zelot 12
Sacsri 11
yabsab 10
Noble 9
Dota 2
qojqva1690
Dendi808
monkeys_forever150
Counter-Strike
markeloff150
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes463
Lowko381
Other Games
B2W.Neo970
hiko764
Beastyqt637
DeMusliM247
Mlord230
Pyrionflax208
Livibee148
Liquid`VortiX96
ArmadaUGS95
Mew2King55
ZerO(Twitch)14
mouzStarbuck7
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL486
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3375
• WagamamaTV343
League of Legends
• TFBlade619
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h 47m
Kung Fu Cup
19h 47m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
The PondCast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
1d 18h
OSC
1d 22h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.