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Not that I don't believe you but no one has evidence for or against RMAH - Korea delaying the release so it's pointless to even discuss the reasons for the game not being released.
All we have is the information from Blizzard and they will never ever, even if it was the ONLY reason, say that the game is being delayed due to RMAH-beeing-seen-as-gambling in Korea and they want to resolve that issue.
Even if Mike "the man" Morhaime stepped out of the shadows on a live Twitch.tv broadcast saying "it's not the RMAH in Korea delaying the game" the interwebz would still go crazy about the current situation in Korea and Diablo 3.
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I'm getting fed up with Blizzard. This is like SC2 all over again.
Expect a release late 2008.
sorry no release before christmas 2008
sorry no release in 2009
sorry no release early 2010
and then finally in 2010 almost august we get release :S
It's worth it I guess but the wait is wack
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On January 10 2012 21:47 frontliner2 wrote:
I'm getting fed up with Blizzard. This is like SC2 all over again.
Expect a release late 2008.
sorry no release before christmas 2008
sorry no release in 2009
sorry no release early 2010
and then finally in 2010 almost august we get release :S
It's worth it I guess but the wait is wack
In finance and economics, there's something called the "rational expectations" hypothesis. Loosely speaking, it asserts that investors are rational and take into account all information in making expectations about the future.
If you are a rational agent, taking into account all information about Blizzard's release patterns, you should expect a lot of delays.
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On January 10 2012 22:00 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 21:47 frontliner2 wrote:
I'm getting fed up with Blizzard. This is like SC2 all over again.
Expect a release late 2008.
sorry no release before christmas 2008
sorry no release in 2009
sorry no release early 2010
and then finally in 2010 almost august we get release :S
It's worth it I guess but the wait is wack In finance and economics, there's something called the "rational expectations" hypothesis. Loosely speaking, it asserts that investors are rational and take into account all information in making expectations about the future. If you are a rational agent, taking into account all information about Blizzard's release patterns, you should expect a lot of delays.
You are right, but Im still VERY suprised to see this.
Yes, Blizzard are known for their delays and great work, but they are also professionals in marketing and no matter when they release game or how many times it was delayed you can always saj "GJ well played".
BUT this time around D3 that is nothing but sloppy job. Too early opened beta caused hype that eventually just fade away (first weeks massive streaming, later perry much nothing), beta patches chaning not even available skills from 326% dmg to 325% dmg people are only making fun of, constant messages "we are almost done" followed by "expect game system changes in next weeks" at the same time - this all sure hurts game. I dont care Im fan, but Im just saying that if you compare how much was SC2 campaign attractive for casual player/buyer and how much must be D3 campaign attractive, you can not describe it ain any other word than just "sloppy and bad".
SC2 campaign was amazing. Battle reports + Blizzard making even more glory and hype spreading "Terrible, terrible damage" famous quotes, good beta timing when sttreaming stayed until game release + even some tournaments ended with "Make... no... mistake. War... is... coming" I still have dreams about (:D) but so far D3 campaign failed in everything. I just hope they will have even more amazing teaser video - not that it could ever affect me buying CE, but its always nice to see some THIS amazing job 
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I have a feeling the game changes are going to be fairly minor.
This one is likely to be filled with the changes that blizzard had planned to make the game 1.1
In order to be a deal breaker we would have to see something like "Runestones gone! New talent trees" or maybe "This just in, combat based around collectable cards!"
Nah we will probably see Blizzard commit to a runestone design (they have several fully fleshed out, they just need to choose one, and tell us about it). And a lot of skill revamps and redesigns.
A Blizzard game is never truly done.
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Title is misleading, makes it sound like its going to be delayed worldwide, while it's likely only going to be delayed in Korea.
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It will be released everywhere at once.
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On January 10 2012 21:47 frontliner2 wrote:
I'm getting fed up with Blizzard. This is like SC2 all over again.
Expect a release late 2008.
sorry no release before christmas 2008
sorry no release in 2009
sorry no release early 2010
and then finally in 2010 almost august we get release :S
It's worth it I guess but the wait is wack
I never expected SC2 in 2008 tbh, the game was announced in 2007 Blizzard always takes around 3 years.
What annoys me for D3 is that they were on a roll for a release, launching Beta, shit load of info etc etc. like SC2 and then suddenly they just chose to stop the hype ? What the fuck ? How could they miss their shot so badly.
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I saw release date 20 March 2012 in store in France today, anybody can confirm ?
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On January 11 2012 21:52 iminh wrote:
I saw release date 20 March 2012 in store in France today, anybody can confirm ?
Until Blizzard posts one, every date is unconfirmed and just a guess.
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it's the biggest electronic store in France(FNAC) so i think it's pretty legit
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On January 11 2012 22:10 iminh wrote:
it's the biggest electronic store in France(FNAC) so i think it's pretty legit
No, it is not. Retailers will know the date when Blizzard announces it publicly. Til then, its just speculation, guesses and baits.
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On January 11 2012 22:26 Overpowered wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 22:10 iminh wrote:
it's the biggest electronic store in France(FNAC) so i think it's pretty legit No, it is not. Retailers will know the date when Blizzard announces it publicly. Til then, its just speculation, guesses and baits.
Yeap spot on . I work for gaming retailer , and i can tell that we dont know the date . We can guess :p by reading etc...
Honesty as i said before , im tired the hype its gone a long time ago .
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On January 11 2012 22:10 iminh wrote:
it's the biggest electronic store in France(FNAC) so i think it's pretty legit
The release date will be revealed as a press release. Why in the world would only FNAC know about the release date and no one else?
There is a lot of things I take with a grain of salt when coming from Blizzard. I do believe that RMAH in Korea is holding up the release.
But if there is one thing I truly believe in is that Blizzard has never ever given any release dates anywhere but in an official press release.
Try to give one example where the release date was known in before Blizzard made an official announcement. You won't find one. Only guesses.
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On January 11 2012 23:38 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 22:10 iminh wrote:
it's the biggest electronic store in France(FNAC) so i think it's pretty legit The release date will be revealed as a press release. Why in the world would only FNAC know about the release date and no one else? There is a lot of things I take with a grain of salt when coming from Blizzard. I do believe that RMAH in Korea is holding up the release. But if there is one thing I truly believe in is that Blizzard has never ever given any release dates anywhere but in an official press release. Try to give one example where the release date was known in before Blizzard made an official announcement. You won't find one. Only guesses.
I work for Fnac :p , they dont know the release date , as i said on my previous post .
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I am kinda sick of these "RMAH or not" debates. Its not a 100 percent or 0 percent thing. No need for extreme standpoints. Korean RMAH can be a large portion for the delay, a delay where they take the opportunity to make some major revisions to the game, which in turns becomes the final cycle that needs to be completed.
But 9 out of 10 people cant comprehend what a development cycle is so they have to dumb it down by not telling us anything.
Retailers can say whatever the fuck they want. Retailers have been telling people that their copy of Diablo 3 is sitting in the store waiting for them so they can hook customers into the store to buy more crap.
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I think Blizzard should simply give up on original RMAH idea in Korea, IMO they have absolutely no chance with real money cash out, real life goods, virtual stuff or anything.
Nobody is saying _D3 is gamble, poker isnt either. Those are games you can play with friends just for fun. Or you can turn it into cash in-luck-cash out (any game or sport/political/whatever event can) scenario and then it has possibility to be used as gambling tool, it just depends on how people use it. But since koreans have so strict politics about it, they will never allow game that can be used as on-line virtual casino even if you could be only winning virtual Blizzcon tickets, even if only 1 out of 10k koreans would use it that way and all others were playing just for fun maybe ocasionally paying for some (in my personal opinion you cant call it gambling unless you are buying items with purpose of making profit from lucky random drops, if you just buy whatever you want to have fun thats totally normal, no difference from paying for ticket to cinema).
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On January 11 2012 22:26 Overpowered wrote:
No, it is not. Retailers will know the date when Blizzard announces it publicly. Til then, its just speculation, guesses and baits.
100% this.
Fans of D3 who keeps up to date with TL.net/Blizzard site, r/diablo, or the diablo twitter, will most likely know the release date as fast as any store will.
So keep you eyes on those 4 and you will know the correct release date the same day as its announced.
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On January 11 2012 02:00 Toppp wrote:
Title is misleading, makes it sound like its going to be delayed worldwide, while it's likely only going to be delayed in Korea.
did you read the post at all? T_T
anyway, finally got a beta through the blizzard twitter contest, quite excited :D
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