I get this from Samsung's point of view.
Still, WCG will fail without Blizzard.
I'm not worried either way, or we'll hear nothing from this again (I think this will happen) and everything will go as last year.
Or for some magical reason samsung gets their way and Blizzard will laugh and there are other tourneys who will gladly catch it and we'll still get the games.
WCG will fail without Blizzard, but Blizzard's games won't fail without WCG.

Al Bundy

7257 Posts

February 25 2011 22:35 GMT

#262

Lol... This is pathetic. I always liked the WCG but without blizzard games, this event means NOTHING to me.

I'm playing Blizzard games using a Samsung monitor... Hopefully my computer won't start acting like a disturbed child and throw a tantrum.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

February 25 2011 22:42 GMT

#263

Samsung sounds like it's just blundering about swinging wildly at anything.
They have a widely popular BW team that's star player Stork is just a fan by everyone and yet they don't want Brood war at WCG..

WCG is nearly wrecked from the economic downturn and Samsung wants it to do it's thing without having more then likely at least 2 of the top three titles at the event. It's like Samsung is just purposely trying to wreck WCG. It makes no sense unless they just want to make sure WCG is delt with.

StarBrift

Sweden1761 Posts

February 25 2011 22:49 GMT

#264

I hope this will kill WCG so one of the new tournaments like IEM or MLG can start taking over the scene. WCG has been shoddily run for years now and only got away with it because they were the only organisation with big corporate backing and they hype every main event. Local WCG tournaments though are often craptastic.

Arcanne

United States1519 Posts

February 25 2011 22:49 GMT

#265

Wow that would be a huge shame. Hope it doesn't happen.

Artosis Mermaid

United States34 Posts

February 25 2011 22:56 GMT

#266

I was in the market for a new phone, but I think I'll avoid a samsung this time around.

LosingID8

CA10830 Posts

February 25 2011 23:03 GMT

#267

so much blind samsung hate in this thread.

Amnesia

United States3818 Posts

February 25 2011 23:05 GMT

#268

Please please please have BW and CS 1.6. Don't care about any other games.

Jugan

United States1566 Posts

February 25 2011 23:11 GMT

#269

On February 25 2011 16:46 MangoTango wrote:

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Made even more perplexing because they sponsor a BW team. Sad.

Being part of KeSPA kinda forces them to take that stance. KeSPA has forced teams to exclude players from the Blizzard-sponsored GOM tournaments. Basically the entire situation is a shitstorm, and WCG was in it the entire time - we just weren't aware of it because there was so much shit in the air.

I wonder how much of the lawsuit is Activision and how much of it is Blizzard... I think both sides are at fault and that the sport and the fans suffer the consequences.

WeRRa

378 Posts

February 25 2011 23:12 GMT

#270

i think the most watched wcg because of bw and if it isnt in i think wcg will die

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

February 25 2011 23:17 GMT

#271

So they are taking out the best two games out of the event...

Without these two, games left in decreasing enjoyment are CS, FIFA (yep, this is the second one now) and bunch of cell phone games.

They need to include at least BW and WC3 as they are the main games. Yeah, the issue about copyright is messy right now. But if they don't include these two games, might as well shut down WCG for this year.

To be honest, how can they get people to come and only watch CS and FIFA...

Terranist

United States2496 Posts

February 25 2011 23:30 GMT

#272

On February 26 2011 08:03 LosingID8 wrote:
so much blind samsung hate in this thread.

i agree. i always loved samsung products and they have sponsored starcraft in its purest form for several years. if there is anyone to hate and point the finger at, it should be blizzard for bullying kespa around and creating this mess.

gk_ender

United States717 Posts

February 25 2011 23:36 GMT

#273

sigh and the fight for ip rights continues
man why cant we just buy blizz games and do what we want with them? I mean I/we did all pay money right? Like unless blizz has a contract when I purchase the game explicitly saying, "when you buy this you can not use this," i have no idea why this is even still an argument

eight.BiT

United States240 Posts

February 25 2011 23:37 GMT

#274

I didn't even know WCG played other games besides the Blizzard games and Counter Strike, lol.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

February 25 2011 23:46 GMT

#275

On February 26 2011 08:36 gk_ender wrote:
sigh and the fight for ip rights continues
man why cant we just buy blizz games and do what we want with them? I mean I/we did all pay money right? Like unless blizz has a contract when I purchase the game explicitly saying, "when you buy this you can not use this," i have no idea why this is even still an argument

It is not about you. The copyright thing has to do with private use only and not generating profit from the game (what WCG is doing).

Dox

Australia1199 Posts

February 25 2011 23:58 GMT

#276

My god that's so awful.

ZaplinG

United States3818 Posts

February 26 2011 00:00 GMT

#277

Blizzard shouldn't wreck kespa or wcg unless they can provide superior services to replace them. As it stands right now, all they have to offer is their poorly constructed battle.net ladder system that fails to deliver the basic necessities needed for determining a players actual ranking (inexcusable things like a repungently stagnant map pool and the inability for cross realm play).

So until then, jog on blizzard, and try not to choke on the fucking billions you've already made. Revolution is in the air for our generation and you are starting to piss us off.

mordk

Chile8385 Posts

February 26 2011 00:13 GMT

#278

On February 26 2011 09:00 ZaplinG wrote:
Blizzard shouldn't wreck kespa or wcg unless they can provide superior services to replace them. As it stands right now, all they have to offer is their poorly constructed battle.net ladder system that fails to deliver the basic necessities needed for determining a players actual ranking (inexcusable things like a repungently stagnant map pool and the inability for cross realm play).

So until then, fuck off blizzard, and try not to choke on the billions of profit you've already made.

I doubt it's about money, remember they placed a 1 (yes, ONE) dollar fee on some legal thing to make this work. It's about private property being used to generate money unauthorized by the copyright owners. This is a crime like, everywhere in the world, except maybe in south america (we love our pirate distributors), but then again companies don't mind what happens here.

That doesn't mean I agree with what they did, I'd need to analyze it further to give an informed opinion, but up to now, with what I've read, it doesn't seem to be about money. Hell, blizz makes much more money than it needs only with wow.

I think blizz doesn't even care, they're starting to advertise other events and the real loser is WCG, especially considering they play in Asia. WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO WATCH WCG ONLY FOR CS???.. I mean.. it's a pretty good game, but blizz' RTSs make the bulk of the action and the viewership. Seems like a pretty shitty desperate move by samsung to try to impose something. It won't work, I don't think Blizz will bite.

Raelgar

104 Posts

February 26 2011 00:17 GMT

#279

you make a contract every time you buy a game.
You might want to read the stuff that you just skip through when you install a game

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

February 26 2011 00:32 GMT

#280

On February 26 2011 08:03 LosingID8 wrote:
so much blind samsung hate in this thread.

it reminds me of the IP rights issue and when sc2 came out, soo much blind SC2 and blizzard hate.