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 HoGiL of Hite Entus is retiring.
Official position is that he's lost interest in Starcraft and he's also reached the age of enlistment(it can be pushed back, but there's a social stigma on those who go late + the later you go, the harder it is).
He's apparently enlisting(not in Ace but in the regular army) soon.
Enlisting in the army, NOT in Ace = safely assume he's quitting BW for good.
Um, and for those who don't know, Hogil isn't suddenly doing something drastic. Roughly 2 years of military service is mandatory for South Korean men.
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ugh do I have to?
sources: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=40145 and the official Hite Entus twitter account(tweeted the news an hour ago)
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Knock out JD then retire.....
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On February 18 2011 12:17 zenMaster wrote:
Knock out JD then retire.....
well its a good enough goal don't you think?
anyways,its sad that so many players are retireing....
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i'm sad and happy at the same time. I don't think i'll miss hogil.
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On February 18 2011 12:26 FakePlasticLove wrote:
Why not Ace....
Because he's lost interest in Starcraft and/or doesn't see it as a career path for him anymore
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Canada5565 Posts
Hogil 
The Hogil Day9 Daily is one of my favorites. I think there might be two of them on Hogil. Anyways, this sucks. I've always enjoyed watching this guy. Wish his mid game had been stronger.
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oh no.. He was developing into a pretty good player too.. This makes me sad.
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Always a shame when a bw player decides to leave the game for good. Best of luck to Hogil in the army and whatever the future holds for him. And hey, at least he can say that in his final OSL match he took down Jaedong with him.
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noooooooooooooo
Too many good players on Hite Entus I guess, harder for him to get playing time
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He was a good player, always there for an interesting match. Best of luck to him. I guess he is taking it really hard since he is enlisting in the army, where as Effort just went to school.
EDIT: I assumed if you were in college you didn't have to go to military, my bad.
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On February 18 2011 12:37 Chimpalimp wrote:
He was a good player, always there for an interesting match. Best of luck to him. I guess he is taking it really hard since he is enlisting in the army, where as Effort just went to school.
Uh.... army service is mandatory in Korea.
He's at the age where most guys chose to go(I know because a lot of my guy friends are leaving either this or next yearㅜㅜ )
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What most guys(who obviously don't have a life like Hogil, but anyways) chose to do is to go to univ for an year or two, then take a leave of absence from school and enlist in the army. After it's done, they go back to school.
Plenty of people do postpone it until after they're done with school(especially if they're going beyond a bachelor's degree), but people say it's a lot harder when you're younger than your superiors.
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and the fat jokes about him on the internet slowly subsides and then completely stops..... : (
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hogiii noooo!!! good luck to his next stage in life.
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Damn you Hogil
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 28 2009 19:00 Day[9] wrote:
out of controlgil
On October 28 2009 19:09 Day[9] wrote:
on a new plateaugil
Good luck in the future Hogil!
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Not only did he go out beating Jaedong, but he participated in one of the most unexpected match results ever, the ZvZ tie!
Sad to see any player leave, best of luck to him.
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eh.. was better than HoeJJa but i thought he played pretty bad ;(
gl to him though
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I will never forget his legendary ZvP v Violet on Heartbreak Ridge. If you haven't seen that game, watch it now.
Good bye Hogil, you will be missed.
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Well at least its not SC2...
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I have fond memories of when he was a member of the 'No Fangirls Club' of rookie/under-loved Sparkeyz players. He'd always be by the back door of OGN's studios carrying the plastic bag of unfinished bottles of soda to take back to the team house.
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Australia7069 Posts
Its sad that hogil doesn't love the game anymore. He always had a very distinctive style, especially his zvp. not to mention how he had a god awful zvz record but still took out some great players haha. The game against zero was hillarious. You'll be missed hogil, even if i didn't really like you
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Wow sad Will be sadly missed as he played some great games, especially that ZvZ tie with ZerO xD
All the best for the future to him!! 
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Entus.
Effort beats Flash into retire.
Hogil beats Jaedong into retire Xd.
But seriously sad news when BWpro retires. though im happy with 1 less hydraabuster.
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On February 18 2011 13:11 etheovermind wrote:
Well at least its not SC2...
Amen.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On February 18 2011 12:17 zenMaster wrote:
Knock out JD then retire.....
Well I mean EffOrt knocked out Flash then retired?
Thanks for the games HoGiL~
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
awwww hogil!!
ILL MISS YOU!
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Will miss his reactions
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this is sad news.
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On February 18 2011 13:25 NeverGG wrote:
I have fond memories of when he was a member of the 'No Fangirls Club' of rookie/under-loved Sparkeyz players. He'd always be by the back door of OGN's studios carrying the plastic bag of unfinished bottles of soda to take back to the team house.
Awwww... Geez...
We'll miss you Hogil, good luck in the military.
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wish good luck to him.
by the way, thank you for the translating. I'm really appreciate it.
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On February 18 2011 14:05 teamsolid wrote:
Mini July retires =/
err i thought hero was mini july
anyway sad news indeed i hate to see BW players leaving the scene, be it Flash or TheRock
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On February 18 2011 13:39 ShadeR wrote:
Entus.
Effort beats Flash into retire.
Hogil beats Jaedong into retire Xd.
But seriously sad news when BWpro retires. though im happy with 1 less hydraabuster.
Next in line would be hydra then?
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On February 18 2011 14:42 puppykiller wrote:
was this the lefty zerg?
The lefty is Hoejja.
Anyways, good luck to Hogil in the future, he was pretty good, and now Zero has clear paths through the OSL mwahaha 
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United States10328 Posts
:/ aww
I guess Hite has their ace Zerg though... good luck to Hogil in the military!
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is awesome32274 Posts
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i guess hydra made the competition for hite PL spots too fierce for hogil :\
i never really liked hogil's playstyle at all but i cant help but like the guy after him/leta/horang2 were basically the entire hite lineup after the match-fixing scandal. he did help make some fun games, but i still cant get rid of that horrible "turtle on 40 sunkens" zvp style that he did from my mind lol
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oooh damn I had him on my fpl and Ive been reaaaaaaaaaaaally looking towards his play . Oh well time to trade him away . sighs BW is becoming smaller I want to see some new players kick ass.....
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
hmmm,on the bright side looks like Flash won't need to play in the MST next season.![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/devil.gif)
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Best of wishes to Hogil and future plans. He has contributed a great deal to the e-sports community by being a strong progamer, and hopefully he can continue to live a happy and productive life even with his progaming days behind him. It is disappointing to see progamers become frustrated and quit due to the intensity of e-sports, though it is better to live an enjoyable life instead of suffering through a frustrating one. Hope Hogil has success later in life.
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Ehh never really cared about or noticed him specifically so whatever. Would have been hilarious if he had joined ACE to make them into a further joke.
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AWWWW, this is so sad! /sniff But what can we do, military service is compulsory here as well... life goes on. Good luck, Hogil, on whatever you do in future! =3
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GG Hogil! Best of luck in the future!
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Never a good thing when a player retires, but oh well, he was getting overshadowed by Hydra anyways, and the hite lineup is pretty crowded.
Good luck in the military. Best hope there aren't any Jaedong fans in there.
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A picture of him with a huge-ass Sparkeyz jacket is printed into my mind - glad I can now let that image go. Other than that, this is quite sad. Best of luck to him in the future!
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Hmm this is unfortunate. Hope the military treats him well.
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If only he wasn't going to the army, because it would've been nice if he pulled a Guemchi.
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Well he went out with a bang. I guess he can be proud of the way he performed towards the end of his career.
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Although he wasn't a player with a huge list of accomplishments or achievements he was a great player in his own right. HoGiL's ZvP was pretty insane and II willl accredit HoGiL for Snow's advancement in PvZ.
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....Sigh.. I'm rather sad that people leave broodwar but I guess its okay.. Best of luck to Hogil!!
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It's sad to see a BW player leave, especially one with so much notability. He was a very sound player, and would sneak up on 'better' players with some frequency. I'll miss him.
I hope he finds satisfaction in whatever comes after the army.
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I liked his patient style (featured in one of the earlier Day9 dailies btw).
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
I think his mechanics weren't good enough anymore. Whenever I saw him play he couldn't quite keep pace when it came to Multitasking and Microing. He had good game sense but that can't compensate for everything.
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Japan11286 Posts
So sad to see a pro lose interest in BW. But gl to him in the military.
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noooo ((
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On February 18 2011 12:29 Xxio wrote:Hogil The Hogil Day9 Daily is one of my favorites. I think there might be two of them on Hogil. Anyways, this sucks. I've always enjoyed watching this guy. Wish his mid game had been stronger.
I remember those. I always cheered for him after I saw those
GL in what you choose to do with your future Hogil.
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On February 18 2011 13:44 Grobyc wrote:Amen.
what is this supposed to mean? do you feel betrayed inside when a player chooses SC2 over BW ?
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On February 18 2011 16:45 Teogamer wrote:
Ehh never really cared about or noticed him specifically so whatever. Would have been hilarious if he had joined ACE to make them into a further joke.
The current ACE lineup is the strongest it's ever been...
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Very surprised. Hogil's born in 1991, still a few more years before he reaches the age when progamers usually enter military service.
It might have something to do with the fact that he wasn't started even once during Winner's League. The CJ environment is so cutthroat.
Anyway, good luck to him in the future!
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Never liked Hogil, but losing BW players isn't good as the scene already have lost tons of players.
I wish him good luck in his future though.
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Shit happens when the nation comes knocking on your door(or in this case, Hogil knocking their door).
Good luck, Hogil.
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I remember a game he played against Flash last year or so, just when god young ho started to show dominant play. I always though he had some potential but never really used it along his progamer career.
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aww laem!!! I always liked HogiL as a person but didnt like his play (except when he beat JD).
And two years of military service is mandatory and normal... Here you have about 1 year and I know a friend in Sweden and there they have no mandatory military service. You can like fake a injury or something or just say you dont want to go and almost all the times you dont need to.
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I'm really sad . His defensive management oriented style really contributed to the developement of the zerg race especially in ZvP and to lesser extent in ZvT . People here might call it just boring turtling , but in reallity it is pretty hard to pull of . His game against free in the day9 daily showed how good Hogil can be at defending and taking control of the map without overextending himself and really not giving a fuck if protoss will get more bases and equall yours , because he can take them down with lategame management and well executed attacks .
This will surely hurt CJ , maybe not in their lack of players in the line-ups in PL , but their performance in it , because Hogil has been no doubt a good practise partner for the team if anything . Well thats how it is in CJ probably the most competitive players can get within a team . There are always younger players who are striving to surpass their superiors , but that is also why i like them the most .
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Hogil
Sad to see him leave.
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Never really found him particularly fun to watch or astonishing (except when he beat Jaedong recently), but abrupt retirement is sad news regardless. Best of luck to him.
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Dang... crowded Entus lineup is taking it's toll...
I will remember Hogil as a decent ZvP player, even if his policy was always to turtle and bring it to the lategame. There is a one or two games (one was against Free on some Twilight map), where he really brought the best non-Jaedong game sense Zerg can show in the matchup.
I'd love to see him transferred to some other team or even as an Air Force ACE conscript, but now...
GG Hogil, GL on your future life.
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Too bad that he had to quit altogether... he would've been a boon for KT or OZ.
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On February 18 2011 20:43 Ryo wrote:
Very surprised. Hogil's born in 1991, still a few more years before he reaches the age when progamers usually enter military service.
It might have something to do with the fact that he wasn't started even once during Winner's League. The CJ environment is so cutthroat.
Anyway, good luck to him in the future!
I think the fact that he's going at the normal age for "normal people" means that he's going to live a "normal" life like other people.... After he finishes his two years, I'm guessing that he's going to study for univ.
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Sad news fo BW.
Well, in 2 years you'll see him playing SC2 just like every ex-BW progamer =p (i hope!)
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This sucks... I remember when he beat Flash last year. That was awesome. A really clever zerg. I guess he didn't feel like competing with Hydra.
that military thing must suck so much for koreans. I can't imagine losing two years like that.
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at least he'll come out of service knowing what it's like to be in shape.
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On February 18 2011 23:21 Elroi wrote:
This sucks... I remember when he beat Flash last year. That was awesome. A really clever zerg. I guess he didn't feel like competing with Hydra.
that military thing must suck so much for koreans. I can't imagine losing two years like that.
Beat Flash? What are you talking about? O_o
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On February 18 2011 23:46 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 23:21 Elroi wrote:
This sucks... I remember when he beat Flash last year. That was awesome. A really clever zerg. I guess he didn't feel like competing with Hydra.
that military thing must suck so much for koreans. I can't imagine losing two years like that. Beat Flash? What are you talking about? O_o
He probably mixed up hogil with hyun
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Eliminate JD from OSL and leave? LOL, I should set a new topis on TL, called "Season of the trolls". Hogil would be a no1 troll with this one. Anyway, wish you best luck in your future life.
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I will miss his ZvZ. Although he wasn't successful, he will be remembered by me as the Drone killer.
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Stop retiring . BW scene can't fade out yet!
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On February 19 2011 00:25 EchoZ wrote:Stop retiring . BW scene can't fade out yet!
Lol who said anything about it fading out? This is a fairly typical event(a pro gamer retiring.)
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Hoagie nooooooooo!
Best of luck to him.
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While I'm not advocating the idea of retiring select Brood War players in general, I'm kind of sick of seeing players from the Entus crew drop out of the scene as they tend to produce some of the greatest players ever (even though HoGiL was initially a Sparkyz player, I still consider him to be a part of Entus with the merger); it's just a shame as being a member of any Entus-related faction really helps players reach their potential and become amazing players (compared to how rookies tend to stagnate in T1/KT).
Good luck to him for the future, wherever he chooses to go.
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On February 19 2011 01:38 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
While I'm not advocating the idea of retiring select Brood War players in general, I'm kind of sick of seeing players from the Entus crew drop out of the scene as they tend to produce some of the greatest players ever (even though HoGiL was initially a Sparkyz player, I still consider him to be a part of Entus with the merger); it's just a shame as being a member of any Entus-related faction really helps players reach their potential and become amazing players (compared to how rookies tend to stagnate in T1/KT).
Good luck to him for the future, wherever he chooses to go.
What? It's our homegrown players who are doing well: Flash, Stats, Violet and our imports that have stagnated: Luxury, ForGG, Action.
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Sparkyz is almost gone now just Horang2 and Leta. So long Hogil.
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=< Hogil whyyyy.
Well i didn't like him that much. but i still feel sad.
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On February 18 2011 12:58 Byzantium wrote:
Not only did he go out beating Jaedong, but he participated in one of the most unexpected match results ever, the ZvZ tie!
Sad to see any player leave, best of luck to him.
Wow, how many of ties has been there in the history of starcraft ? TV progaming shows that is ?
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Even though I didn't follow him it's always sad to se someone go. GLHF in the army!
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On February 18 2011 15:02 prototype. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 13:39 ShadeR wrote:
Entus.
Effort beats Flash into retire.
Hogil beats Jaedong into retire Xd.
But seriously sad news when BWpro retires. though im happy with 1 less hydraabuster. Next in line would be hydra then?
For some reason, beating great and then retiring just doesn't have the same glamour to it.
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On February 19 2011 00:25 EchoZ wrote:Stop retiring . BW scene can't fade out yet!
This is a Hite Entus merger problem rather than a BW scene problem.
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United States10155 Posts
Thank you HoGiL!!! I remember when he faced FlaSh on El Nino.. and got butt raped. i think that was the first match i watched of him.
Thanks for beating JD though!!!!
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I just remember seeing his game vs Mind on Katrina and thought his zvt had promise. I always thought he showed at times really remarkable minimap usage where he would catch dropships anytime they passed an overlord. Don't know about his other mu's because I only watched his zvt but still sad to see him go .
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Shame, but I guess the poor guy was pretty much left jobless with the rise of Hydra. Pretty understandable he would call it quits right now.
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Sad to see HoGiL go but then agian Hite Entus already got good zergs like Hydra and others but i wish him the best of luck
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Now who's gonna fill the void of the fat zerg?
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NO DONT QUIT YOU HO.....GIL
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just watched his day9 episodes really didnt know that much about him
besides seeing him on ras oldboy series in the sparkys house
hope he enjoys his decision and have a happy life out of the sc world :D
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Thinking about it I wonder if the lack of Sparkyz players was also part of the reason he retired. Certainly loss of interest can happen when you have to play SC for a living, but Hogil also lost a lot of his teammates and possible friends that he knew for a long time. First the scandal then the merger, both which cut down the Sparkyz members.
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On February 18 2011 12:29 Xxio wrote:Hogil The Hogil Day9 Daily is one of my favorites. I think there might be two of them on Hogil. Anyways, this sucks. I've always enjoyed watching this guy. Wish his mid game had been stronger.
Yeah, Hogil was on a lot of Dailies. I loved those games.
Well, good luck to Hogil ^^
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Maybe after the army service he'll pop into the SC2 scene =)
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On February 18 2011 12:17 zenMaster wrote:
Knock out JD then retire.....
This was my thought exactly haha. Well, best of luck to him!
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The enlistment thing is a bit weird imo
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On February 18 2011 12:39 yoonyoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 12:37 Chimpalimp wrote:
He was a good player, Always there for an interesting match. Best of luck to him. I guess he is taking it Really hard since he is enlisting in the army, where as EffOrt just went to school. Plenty of people do postpone it until after they're done with school(especially if they're going beyond a bachelor's degree), but people say it's a lot harder when you're younger than your superiors.
Is that part of the reason players like  Nal_rA and  NaDa didn't enlist - and still haven't enlisted - until their 30's in Korean age (assuming NaDa will eventually enlist within the next few years)?
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On February 19 2011 19:32 ReaperX wrote:
The enlistment thing is a bit weird imo
Mandatory enlistment? It makes a decent amount of sense when you're a country that shares a border with a crazy-ass dictator-led country that occasionally randomly attacks your shit.
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Hopefully he comes back to SC maybe SC2 at some point. Great player.
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On February 19 2011 22:41 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 19:32 ReaperX wrote:
The enlistment thing is a bit weird imo Mandatory enlistment? It makes a decent amount of sense when you're a country that shares a border with a crazy-ass dictator-led country that occasionally randomly attacks your shit.
I believe Switzerland make it an obligation too.
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he knocked out the end boss.
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On February 18 2011 12:39 yoonyoon wrote:
Plenty of people do postpone it until after they're done with school(especially if they're going beyond a bachelor's degree), but people say it's a lot harder when you're younger than your superiors.
dude i think you got confused there (or typed wrong), it's a lot harder for you when you're older than your superiors, not younger. obviously there'd be nothing wrong with being younger than your superiors (because that reinforces the age hierarchy in korean society, whereas younger superiors goes against that that)!
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It's always sad to see players go =\. Hope the best for him!
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On February 20 2011 09:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 22:41 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 19 2011 19:32 ReaperX wrote:
The enlistment thing is a bit weird imo Mandatory enlistment? It makes a decent amount of sense when you're a country that shares a border with a crazy-ass dictator-led country that occasionally randomly attacks your shit. I believe Switzerland make it an obligation too.
You are correct "able-bodied" Swiss men must enlist when they reach the age of majority.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Switzerland
Enlistment makes alot of sense but me reasoning most of it would derail this thread
I once watched a daily with Hogil in it, was quite good. Time for him to move on I guess...
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Sigh, really sad Hogil has been my favorite Zerg player for quite some time, not because he was very good, but I always liked how he managed to somewhat overcome his mechanical weaknesses with a superb management play. + Hes always been a player with his own distinct play style, even when everybody else was doing the 3hatch into 5hatch whatever builds, you could still see Hogil doing things like placing his 3rd hatch at his natural. Just a really smart player in general (even if some would call his play style boring)
People who have not watched his old games, should check out some of these.
vs Violet @ Heartbreak ridge, as others have mentioned this is a legendary game.
vs Kal @ Heartbreak ridge, Picks Kal apart with perfect troop movement and unit composition.
vs Sangho @ Heartbreak ridge, absolutely perfect game from Hogils side, gets crushed on BO, but comes back by playing flawlessly (with a little help from sangho playing poorly some might say)
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