• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:28
CET 13:28
KST 21:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !9Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Micro Lags When Playing SC2? ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1635 users

[Int] GSL January Code S Final Winner - Page 3

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
86 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Bergem
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway5 Posts
January 30 2011 02:36 GMT
#41
Basicly what happened:

MKP practised alot - like he said he would - on strategies that would counter his style's counter. Let me rephrase that. MKP is known for going heavy on his MMM mobile army in almost every TvT matchup. And he's known for early aggression.

MVP didn't prepare "anything" except the first match - I believe. In that regard MKP relied on MVP to go for a more defensive style - sort of like what Clide did in the groupplay -> Stay at your base with bunkers and let MKP be the on to engange first. And then counterattack him. But instead he basicly followed MKP's "own" builds.

The only time MKP ever really stayed true to his style was on Blister, but by then he was outplayed both mentally and gamewise.

I'm sure going into this matchup MKP was alot more confident in his plan, being the fact that their winratio is basicly 50/50 on the ladderr (according to MKP himself). If he had gone for a more aggressive style - like he did against hopetorture - he could have had a better outcome. This is not to take any glory away from MVP - by all means. The guy is actually the 4th race of SC2 - one whom doesn't have any weaknesses for now. I mean, he predicted every basetradescenario. At one point I was like "wtf" when MKP entered his base (my memory fails on which map) and MVP had an even bigger army there waiting for him, while attacking MKPs base at the same time!

Btw: I'm actually shocked that Nick/Dan didn't notice MKP completly changing up his style until the 4th game - where he actually went for 1rax expo.. lol
SO MAANY BAAAAYLINGS!!!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#42
On January 30 2011 08:58 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
MVP could be an example of what would happen if an A-teamer from BW switched over to Starcraft 2. I wonder what would happen if players like Flash or Jaedong switched.

although bw skills do translate to sc2, the two games may still emphasize different skills. one can argue that build analysis/anticipation and timing is more important for sc2 at this current phase of the game than sheer mechanics or reflex. i think the smarter/sharper players from bw would do better in sc2.

MVP actually comes from the generation of BWpros with insane mechanical ability minimum 400apm and all that jazz.
SweMikey
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden18 Posts
January 30 2011 03:02 GMT
#43
I feel so bad for MKP. Seems like he's just meant to be second place..

The hug at the end was the best part!
I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
January 30 2011 03:13 GMT
#44
Thanks for the translation! I wasn't able to catch the games, but it doesn't seem like I missed all that much.. Though we really need someone who isn't so polite to win and get an interview like this.

PS 1337 post ^^
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 30 2011 03:37 GMT
#45
Another disappointing finals. The matchup was more exciting than last time atleast, with MKP and MVP, but I hoped for some epic back and forth games.
I hope for GSL 5 to have some more excitement to it
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
January 30 2011 03:40 GMT
#46
that was funny.. thats why you should go to GOMtv first..
ja foste
Stymie[SC]
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada10 Posts
January 30 2011 04:55 GMT
#47
Both Code S and Code A finals were won by a Terran. What do you think about that?
▲ I heard that next season, there'll be new maps. I believe the current situation will change when maps change. I do not personally believe that Terran is much stronger than other races.


I think that MVP is right, its not necessarily Terran that is OP, but just the maps. I really hope that the new maps next season will help against the Terran dominance. Watching Tv[insert other race here] got a little boring after a while.
"This Zealot block would not be able to trap a Command Center, were it able to walk!" - Greth
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
January 30 2011 05:13 GMT
#48
Well, Lee Jae-Kyun is such a awesome dude! texting MVP even tho he doesnt play BW anymore!

Congratz to MVP for winning (:
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
January 30 2011 06:14 GMT
#49
Thanks for the interview, I agree that things may change once proper maps get released, congratulations to MVP he deserved it!
I <3 Plexa.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 30 2011 06:58 GMT
#50
Good interview.. glad he won
Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
January 30 2011 06:59 GMT
#51
Not gonna lie, I was cheering for MKP...but man alive! MVP played insanely well! I couldn't believe how well he read MKP.

But in MKP's defense, he's the only one who has been to the finals twice...and that is no small feat.
I kinda miss Idra...
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
January 30 2011 09:07 GMT
#52
On January 30 2011 13:55 Stymie[SC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
Both Code S and Code A finals were won by a Terran. What do you think about that?
▲ I heard that next season, there'll be new maps. I believe the current situation will change when maps change. I do not personally believe that Terran is much stronger than other races.


I think that MVP is right, its not necessarily Terran that is OP, but just the maps. I really hope that the new maps next season will help against the Terran dominance. Watching Tv[insert other race here] got a little boring after a while.



you're right, the maps are pretty boring now because they've been figured out completely (it's already 6 months past the first time SC 2 hit the retails). Even in the OSL/MSL they have different maps so that there would be no type of dominance. well, except for Flash that is ^_^
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
January 30 2011 10:17 GMT
#53
On January 30 2011 08:29 deroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:05 devilshootsdevil wrote:
The best thing about this disappointing finals was the trophy. Looks really cool.


That awesome trophy was the model of the assembled artifact from the campaign.

I really kinda wonder why some people did not enjoy these finals. Sure a bit short and not everybody enjoys TvT, but the skill level demonstrated by MVP was out of this world. Literally made my jaw drop on multiple occasions.


Well, if you didnt have anything better to do, it was okey. If you watched the OSL finals after, its like night and day in comparison, like a dream you remember for days after experiencing it.

I love sc2, and in a few years Im sure it will be fun to watch. That is usually not the case right now with the finals we are having. But watching whitera last night was very fun, so it's not the games fault entirely.
Tofa
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom26 Posts
January 30 2011 11:38 GMT
#54
MKP choked, when his new strategy was failing in game one you could see his inexperience with using the new composition of units, after that game it was blatant that his nerves had taken over.
my quote
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 13:12:33
January 30 2011 12:34 GMT
#55
On January 30 2011 08:58 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
MVP could be an example of what would happen if an A-teamer from BW switched over to Starcraft 2. I wonder what would happen if players like Flash or Jaedong switched.

although bw skills do translate to sc2, the two games may still emphasize different skills. one can argue that build analysis/anticipation and timing is more important for sc2 at this current phase of the game than sheer mechanics or reflex. i think the smarter/sharper players from bw would do better in sc2.

Those two are one of the smartest ones in bw + mechanically superior players so they would actually do fine in the new game

and flashes timings/calculations are superb
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 30 2011 13:08 GMT
#56
I srsly didnt think MVP was gunna 4-0 MKP but MVP was the much stronger player on this day. Congrats MVP too bad you didnt win last season cuz you would have gotten so much more money >< but hey, as long as you win a few more GSLs you can gain some more money
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
January 30 2011 13:27 GMT
#57
thanks for the interview
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
January 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#58
I dunno why so many of you are saying it was a disappointing finals, unless it's only because of how 1-sided it was, but that was 100% MvP's merit, he played flawlessly.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
January 30 2011 15:06 GMT
#59
MVP was so solid, glad he won.
Thx for the interview.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 17:53:38
January 30 2011 17:52 GMT
#60
On January 30 2011 03:50 NiMz wrote:
As for the landing mules thing, I don't know why but I really like it. Some other races should do something like that. Spam FF/guardian shields or something. I don't really know what zerg could do besides /dance or whatever that command is.


Morph all your zerglings into banelings in your opponent base.

At home, just patrol the sunkens.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Championship Sunday
Clem vs MaxPaxLIVE!
TBD vs Reynor
Classic vs SHIN
WardiTV1655
ComeBackTV 1442
TaKeTV 456
LiquipediaDiscussion
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #116
ByuN vs KrystianerLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings69
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 134
DivinesiaTV 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 7272
Calm 5637
Rain 2706
GuemChi 1952
Horang2 1520
Shuttle 1511
Soma 559
Stork 471
EffOrt 364
Last 301
[ Show more ]
firebathero 266
Light 249
Sharp 225
Mini 219
Hyun 144
Rush 132
hero 120
ggaemo 100
Barracks 61
Yoon 55
soO 54
Movie 39
Killer 33
Mong 32
910 28
zelot 26
HiyA 24
GoRush 18
Terrorterran 15
SilentControl 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5486
singsing3792
XcaliburYe310
BananaSlamJamma129
League of Legends
rGuardiaN100
Counter-Strike
zeus1174
x6flipin804
edward172
allub78
chrisJcsgo56
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor285
Other Games
B2W.Neo1635
Fuzer 364
Pyrionflax220
RotterdaM182
Mew2King70
MindelVK6
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV601
• lizZardDota279
League of Legends
• Jankos2199
• Stunt691
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
4h 33m
BSL 21
7h 33m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
20h 33m
Wardi Open
23h 33m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 4h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.