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[Int] GSL January Code S Final Winner - Page 3

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Bergem
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway5 Posts
January 30 2011 02:36 GMT
#41
Basicly what happened:

MKP practised alot - like he said he would - on strategies that would counter his style's counter. Let me rephrase that. MKP is known for going heavy on his MMM mobile army in almost every TvT matchup. And he's known for early aggression.

MVP didn't prepare "anything" except the first match - I believe. In that regard MKP relied on MVP to go for a more defensive style - sort of like what Clide did in the groupplay -> Stay at your base with bunkers and let MKP be the on to engange first. And then counterattack him. But instead he basicly followed MKP's "own" builds.

The only time MKP ever really stayed true to his style was on Blister, but by then he was outplayed both mentally and gamewise.

I'm sure going into this matchup MKP was alot more confident in his plan, being the fact that their winratio is basicly 50/50 on the ladderr (according to MKP himself). If he had gone for a more aggressive style - like he did against hopetorture - he could have had a better outcome. This is not to take any glory away from MVP - by all means. The guy is actually the 4th race of SC2 - one whom doesn't have any weaknesses for now. I mean, he predicted every basetradescenario. At one point I was like "wtf" when MKP entered his base (my memory fails on which map) and MVP had an even bigger army there waiting for him, while attacking MKPs base at the same time!

Btw: I'm actually shocked that Nick/Dan didn't notice MKP completly changing up his style until the 4th game - where he actually went for 1rax expo.. lol
SO MAANY BAAAAYLINGS!!!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#42
On January 30 2011 08:58 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
MVP could be an example of what would happen if an A-teamer from BW switched over to Starcraft 2. I wonder what would happen if players like Flash or Jaedong switched.

although bw skills do translate to sc2, the two games may still emphasize different skills. one can argue that build analysis/anticipation and timing is more important for sc2 at this current phase of the game than sheer mechanics or reflex. i think the smarter/sharper players from bw would do better in sc2.

MVP actually comes from the generation of BWpros with insane mechanical ability minimum 400apm and all that jazz.
SweMikey
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden18 Posts
January 30 2011 03:02 GMT
#43
I feel so bad for MKP. Seems like he's just meant to be second place..

The hug at the end was the best part!
I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
January 30 2011 03:13 GMT
#44
Thanks for the translation! I wasn't able to catch the games, but it doesn't seem like I missed all that much.. Though we really need someone who isn't so polite to win and get an interview like this.

PS 1337 post ^^
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 30 2011 03:37 GMT
#45
Another disappointing finals. The matchup was more exciting than last time atleast, with MKP and MVP, but I hoped for some epic back and forth games.
I hope for GSL 5 to have some more excitement to it
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tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
January 30 2011 03:40 GMT
#46
that was funny.. thats why you should go to GOMtv first..
ja foste
Stymie[SC]
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada10 Posts
January 30 2011 04:55 GMT
#47
Both Code S and Code A finals were won by a Terran. What do you think about that?
▲ I heard that next season, there'll be new maps. I believe the current situation will change when maps change. I do not personally believe that Terran is much stronger than other races.


I think that MVP is right, its not necessarily Terran that is OP, but just the maps. I really hope that the new maps next season will help against the Terran dominance. Watching Tv[insert other race here] got a little boring after a while.
"This Zealot block would not be able to trap a Command Center, were it able to walk!" - Greth
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
January 30 2011 05:13 GMT
#48
Well, Lee Jae-Kyun is such a awesome dude! texting MVP even tho he doesnt play BW anymore!

Congratz to MVP for winning (:
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
January 30 2011 06:14 GMT
#49
Thanks for the interview, I agree that things may change once proper maps get released, congratulations to MVP he deserved it!
I <3 Plexa.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 30 2011 06:58 GMT
#50
Good interview.. glad he won
Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
January 30 2011 06:59 GMT
#51
Not gonna lie, I was cheering for MKP...but man alive! MVP played insanely well! I couldn't believe how well he read MKP.

But in MKP's defense, he's the only one who has been to the finals twice...and that is no small feat.
I kinda miss Idra...
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
January 30 2011 09:07 GMT
#52
On January 30 2011 13:55 Stymie[SC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
Both Code S and Code A finals were won by a Terran. What do you think about that?
▲ I heard that next season, there'll be new maps. I believe the current situation will change when maps change. I do not personally believe that Terran is much stronger than other races.


I think that MVP is right, its not necessarily Terran that is OP, but just the maps. I really hope that the new maps next season will help against the Terran dominance. Watching Tv[insert other race here] got a little boring after a while.



you're right, the maps are pretty boring now because they've been figured out completely (it's already 6 months past the first time SC 2 hit the retails). Even in the OSL/MSL they have different maps so that there would be no type of dominance. well, except for Flash that is ^_^
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
January 30 2011 10:17 GMT
#53
On January 30 2011 08:29 deroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:05 devilshootsdevil wrote:
The best thing about this disappointing finals was the trophy. Looks really cool.


That awesome trophy was the model of the assembled artifact from the campaign.

I really kinda wonder why some people did not enjoy these finals. Sure a bit short and not everybody enjoys TvT, but the skill level demonstrated by MVP was out of this world. Literally made my jaw drop on multiple occasions.


Well, if you didnt have anything better to do, it was okey. If you watched the OSL finals after, its like night and day in comparison, like a dream you remember for days after experiencing it.

I love sc2, and in a few years Im sure it will be fun to watch. That is usually not the case right now with the finals we are having. But watching whitera last night was very fun, so it's not the games fault entirely.
Tofa
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom26 Posts
January 30 2011 11:38 GMT
#54
MKP choked, when his new strategy was failing in game one you could see his inexperience with using the new composition of units, after that game it was blatant that his nerves had taken over.
my quote
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 13:12:33
January 30 2011 12:34 GMT
#55
On January 30 2011 08:58 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 08:28 LoLAdriankat wrote:
MVP could be an example of what would happen if an A-teamer from BW switched over to Starcraft 2. I wonder what would happen if players like Flash or Jaedong switched.

although bw skills do translate to sc2, the two games may still emphasize different skills. one can argue that build analysis/anticipation and timing is more important for sc2 at this current phase of the game than sheer mechanics or reflex. i think the smarter/sharper players from bw would do better in sc2.

Those two are one of the smartest ones in bw + mechanically superior players so they would actually do fine in the new game

and flashes timings/calculations are superb
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FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 30 2011 13:08 GMT
#56
I srsly didnt think MVP was gunna 4-0 MKP but MVP was the much stronger player on this day. Congrats MVP too bad you didnt win last season cuz you would have gotten so much more money >< but hey, as long as you win a few more GSLs you can gain some more money
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
January 30 2011 13:27 GMT
#57
thanks for the interview
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
January 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#58
I dunno why so many of you are saying it was a disappointing finals, unless it's only because of how 1-sided it was, but that was 100% MvP's merit, he played flawlessly.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
January 30 2011 15:06 GMT
#59
MVP was so solid, glad he won.
Thx for the interview.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 17:53:38
January 30 2011 17:52 GMT
#60
On January 30 2011 03:50 NiMz wrote:
As for the landing mules thing, I don't know why but I really like it. Some other races should do something like that. Spam FF/guardian shields or something. I don't really know what zerg could do besides /dance or whatever that command is.


Morph all your zerglings into banelings in your opponent base.

At home, just patrol the sunkens.
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