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Sjow applies for foreigner house in Korea - Page 10
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Tiax;mous
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GL SJOW! | ||
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
However it would be a shame if he was unable to go to IEM world championships as he is the EU champion. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 29 2011 08:38 Nokarot wrote: What I'm about to say is not to imply that Sjow doesn't deserve it, because he does, but... Anyone else think that, by his team publicly announcing that he's applied and getting the foreigner scene rallied up for him, they're almost forcing GSL to pick him? edit: derp nevermind. Someone corrected me by saying it wasnt his team who announced it. Still, I think any announcement, publicity and anticipation of a well-known player applying almost forces GSL to pick them, whether it was his own team or not. What are you even talking about? Any player who applies for the GOM house is ofcourse going to announce it. It's standard. Why do you want him in particular to be all quiet about it? That's a little creepy.. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 29 2011 18:44 SwiftSpear wrote: If GOM is smart, they will base the 4 foreigner slots based on who can actually be in Korea rather than on who is technically top ranked at the time. It's pointless to invite 4 players who won't be willing to attend. 4 is not a high number considering how much international interest GOM is getting from fans outside of Korea. You have to apply first anyway, so I doubt it goes to someone who doesn't want the slot. | ||
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torkel
Sweden1 Post
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On January 29 2011 14:59 GreEny K wrote: He will need to learn how to scout though... Those Koreans would tear him apart if they realized he never scouts. But he does scout, just with his first Helion. Unless they proxy it doesn't make a difference for him, it's only lost mining time for him. On January 29 2011 19:38 torkel wrote: 60 APM hero, go sjow! lol, I hope you're not implying that as an insult, his apm peaks at over 200 when he needs it to, apm spamming =/= skill. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
I think he could do really well over there.  | ||
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Jikz
Sweden6 Posts
What im basically trying to say is that the apm issue aint that big of a deal if he plays as good as he did in IEM (didnt spectate all matches sadly), but the not scouting a zerg is for me beyond weird on a pro lvl dont you agree? | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On January 29 2011 20:34 Jikz wrote: By all means if he keeps on playing good but srsly, dunno why he'd openly say in a interview that he "doesnt know" how to scout zerg? Also his apm is discussable even though he wanted to go higher which obviously is something good, but I have to admit that it looks funny with 60 apm ^^ What im basically trying to say is that the apm issue aint that big of a deal if he plays as good as he did in IEM (didnt spectate all matches sadly), but the not scouting a zerg is for me beyond weird on a pro lvl dont you agree? He doesn't have 60 that's a complete exaggeration, he averages about a hundred usually, which is still low compared to most high level players. That's not a big deal when you conside Sjow doesn't spam apm for the first couple of minutes which has a big effect on his overall average. It's not that much lower either, I've seen TLO average 120-140 in some reps, is that really that much greater than 100? I'm sure if he mindlessly spammed apm for the first two minutes to warm up his hands like everyone else he would average 140 or 150. What matters is the effective apm, which isn't a problem because when he's using his actions and not spamming they spike up to 200 at times. | ||
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knf
Sweden282 Posts
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oygp
United States40 Posts
But if Sjow, white-ra, or other players from EU/NA/China/Taiwan feel confident enough to actually travel all the way to Korea to compete and show their skills, then I'm 100% behind them. I see nothing wrong with that at all. Even though Koreans progamers truly are the best at the game at this very moment, things can and will definitely change in the future. (I'm assuming most of you watch the GSL. MVP vs MarineKing was epic, WATCH IT) In the longterm, however, I think the best outcome would be one in which SC2 and esports develops to the point where we can have true international competition and where the best non-Korean players aren't all forced to travel to Korea. It will be a huge sacrifice for Sjow or other European players to have to leave their friends and family behind and move to a strange and foreign land that is Korea (for them of course, I'm actually Korean-American so it's not so strange and foreign to me.) Do you guys think there is any possibility we will see GSL-like prize pools in European or American SC2 competitions in the coming years? | ||
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powerdawg96
United States129 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On January 29 2011 21:00 GP wrote: He doesn't have 60 that's a complete exaggeration, he averages about a hundred usually, which is still low compared to most high level players. That's not a big deal when you conside Sjow doesn't spam apm for the first couple of minutes which has a big effect on his overall average. It's not that much lower either, I've seen TLO average 120-140 in some reps, is that really that much greater than 100? I'm sure if he mindlessly spammed apm for the first two minutes to warm up his hands like everyone else he would average 140 or 150. What matters is the effective apm, which isn't a problem because when he's using his actions and not spamming they spike up to 200 at times. APM spam isnt just in the start. Personally I continue to for instance click several move command with groups of units, spam buildings that you can almost afford, etc. I think most people could slim down their APM quite a bit if they really wanted to. About the scouting part I can agree to a sertain extent. I mean usually with your first scouting worker you just check whether there's a 6 pool incoming, and how many gases are taken. Basically information that won't change your build the first couple of minutes as terran much anyway. Day9 usually says to newer players "dont scout unless you know what you're looking for, don't do it just to get a safe feeling", and that probably applies to Sjow's play as well I guess. | ||
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CRAZY EHH
Canada12 Posts
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ImHuko
United States996 Posts
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Puosu
7034 Posts
On January 30 2011 02:51 ImHuko wrote: I was wondering about this foreigner house. All the foreigners were talking about how much better they got in Korea. I would assume that is because of playing with the Koreans. How are the players going to get (I guess) "better" if they are in a house with the same people they always play (in random tournaments and stuff)? They will no doubt be laddering against the koreans more than playing with each other. Being a few feet away from other high level players can be extremely beneficial for your own game as you can discuss the finer parts of strategy with them whenever, it's also much easier to concentrate on mass gaming when you have multiple people doing the same thing just beside you. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On January 30 2011 02:51 ImHuko wrote: I was wondering about this foreigner house. All the foreigners were talking about how much better they got in Korea. I would assume that is because of playing with the Koreans. How are the players going to get (I guess) "better" if they are in a house with the same people they always play (in random tournaments and stuff)? Didn't Idra say he practise mostly with foreigners? | ||
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LoLIsh
United States81 Posts
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