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dolpiff
France300 Posts
also 8/32 spot of code S at stakes every season is a whoping 25%, keep in mind its relatively a big proportion, code S is meant to provide a feling of relative security to compete at the top for holders | ||
hidiliho
Canada685 Posts
On December 11 2010 16:03 Defacer wrote: So, If Huk wanted to qualify he would have to get to the top of the Korean Ladder and take out a Code A player OR Win MLG again. That sounds insanely hard. If there's going to be a January GSL, wouldn't it make sense to use the 2010 foreign events? If this is true then Huk would have made S class by already winning MLG. | ||
PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On December 12 2010 04:31 hidiliho wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2010 16:03 Defacer wrote: So, If Huk wanted to qualify he would have to get to the top of the Korean Ladder and take out a Code A player OR Win MLG again. That sounds insanely hard. If there's going to be a January GSL, wouldn't it make sense to use the 2010 foreign events? If this is true then Huk would have made S class by already winning MLG. If they used 2010 events, HuK would probably have a high chance of being a seed an A class, he won't be S class. Also, it was never mentioned in the post that the Ladder competitions have anything to do with qualifying correct? As far as it is written, the bottom 16 Code A spots filled with offline qualifiers in the same way the other 3 open seasons have been. | ||
IAttackYou
United States330 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On December 11 2010 15:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote: It sounds like a system of Relegation which would be awesome. There isn't hardly any relegation in professional American sports, and it's always been a competitive mechanic I've envied of the Europeans. That's because our franchise system works differently from European soccer, team relegation wouldn't really work in the nfl, nba or mlb as they currently exist. | ||
Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
It's better for viewers, too. Who wants one of their favorite players to become 'that guy who loses round robin 1-2 but not 0-3, so he stays in Code S'? I'd rather they drop to Code A and watch them crush their way back into Code S next season. | ||
L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On December 11 2010 17:01 0neder wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2010 16:29 Chairman Ray wrote: However nice it is that they're reserving spots for foreigners, I don't agree with the decision. I am a devoted fan of several foreign players, but if one of them got in solely because he was reserved a spot and not because he earned it himself, I will not cheer him on in the GSL. Have to say I agree. The problem is that its impractical and potentially risky for foreigners to try and earn code A. To do so they would have to travel to Korea and live there while they go through offlines and GSL's to work up to code A/S; this gives quality foriegn players that couldn't afford to do all that traveling a reasonable shot at GSL. Additionally with seemingly more Koreans starting to travel to foriegn tournaments the fields will likely be sufficiently strong to ensure that any qualifying foreigners aren't two notches below the GSL code A skill level. The impoportant thing to understand here is that it gives forigner players who otherwise couldn't even attempt GSL qualifications (evne if they are good enough) a chance to get in the GSL. | ||
Versita
Canada1032 Posts
offline preliminary offline=LAN? or do you mean they meet up at one place just like this years GSL qualifiers | ||
MiniTsunami
United States274 Posts
On December 12 2010 05:50 Versita wrote: offline=LAN? or do you mean they meet up at one place just like this years GSL qualifiers Offline just means that it was like the qualifiers of this years GSL. Not that it is LAN as unfortunate as that is. | ||
ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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YoungNeil
Canada328 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Probably Pointless Speculation] + So, what foreigners do we think have the best chances of being given Code A spots? If we're going by major tournament winners, I would consider the following the most likely choices: HuK (MLG Raleigh) Fenix (IEM American Championships) MorroW (IEM Cologne) Namaa (DreamHack) All other non-Korean winners of major tournaments (as classified by Liquipedia) already have Code A or S. However, I expect Gom to use a more holistic system. Kiwikaki would be a good choice, seeing as he took 2nd at MLG Raleigh and 4th at MLG DC. HuK also got 3rd at MLG DC, so that should improve his chances. SeleCT got 7th at Raleigh and 2nd at DC. Sjow and Socke also seem to be tearing stuff up in Europe, so maybe one of them? I would expect to see at least one player of each race chosen. I also expect that nobody who actually played in the GSL will be chosen. So, my prediction are HuK, Kiwikaki, Fenix, and...Dimaga? It was hard to pick a Zerg, but I figured there was going to be at least one European player. On that same note, two Canadian players may seem too much, so perhaps it'll only be one of HuK and Kiwikaki. But I'm apparently a fanboy, so I'm keeping both of them there! Hopefully we'll know the real choices soon. | ||
Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On December 12 2010 06:34 YoungNeil wrote: While I'm no fan of Bo1 matches, I like everything else about this format. It's a little complicated, but it looks fair (besides Bo1) and more interesting than straight single-elim tournaments. Hopefully Gom will reconsider their decision to use Bo1 matches. Are you sure you're not thinking of single elimination? That doesn't mean Bo1. | ||
YoungNeil
Canada328 Posts
On December 12 2010 07:17 Redmark wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2010 06:34 YoungNeil wrote: While I'm no fan of Bo1 matches, I like everything else about this format. It's a little complicated, but it looks fair (besides Bo1) and more interesting than straight single-elim tournaments. Hopefully Gom will reconsider their decision to use Bo1 matches. Are you sure you're not thinking of single elimination? That doesn't mean Bo1. I know that there's a difference between single elimination and Bo1, but people in this thread have been saying that the group stages will use Bo1 matches. It's possible that this isn't true; I certainly hope so. I did forget to specify the group stages in my post, I'm sure that the single elimination stage will use Bo3/5/7, like the current GSL. I don't think Gom has specifically mentioned that, but they'd be crazy to do otherwise. | ||
Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
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tyme
Canada26 Posts
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sc2olorin
292 Posts
On December 12 2010 01:48 ZeNd0kUn wrote: I would suggest a best of 2 with a score system .. if 2 players take 1 game each it's a draw and if a player wins both it's a win. And scores should be given according to wins, draws etc. I think this will also decrease the number of ties within a group which itself will be pretty complicated. I really like that idea. | ||
McMonty
Canada379 Posts
Secondly: Questions: Can foreigners who are not in the group of 4 reserved spots still try to go through the offline preliminaries? Do they forfeit their spot in the group of 4 if they want to try and qualify? And how do they determine who gets a reserved spot among foreigners? | ||
Sembei
Argentina48 Posts
On December 11 2010 19:08 Trumpet wrote: I'm a little disappointed now that it's happening. I really liked the big open tournaments. I don't want to watch the same tournament month after month. And I liked knowing that every player in the ro64 had earned his spot by winning, not by invites. Things like morrow winning the IEM tournament that he wasn't even originally invited to make me wary of all these codes and special qualifiers. I guess we'll have lots of fan favorites at the very least. I'm also really hoping they change up the maps. I'll be watching in any case, can't wait to see it when it actually airs =) I don't know if you are getting it correctly... the tournament is still open. There is an offline preliminary to get into code A and between each tournament will be a decision match between top class vs lower class S to decide the participants in the next class S tournament. 8 players from Code S could lose they rank between each season, that's a lot (25%!). So, it wont be the same tournament over and over. | ||
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