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GOMTV announces the system of GSL in 2011 - Page 9

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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
December 11 2010 19:29 GMT
#161
Looks like someone had the same idea as me. puzzl's image is better, but here's my attempt, anyhow.
[image loading]
dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 19:31:49
December 11 2010 19:31 GMT
#162
great picture above, seems correct to me


also 8/32 spot of code S at stakes every season is a whoping 25%, keep in mind its relatively a big proportion, code S is meant to provide a feling of relative security to compete at the top for holders
hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 19:31:42
December 11 2010 19:31 GMT
#163
On December 11 2010 16:03 Defacer wrote:
So,

If Huk wanted to qualify he would have to get to the top of the Korean Ladder and take out a Code A player

OR

Win MLG again.

That sounds insanely hard.



If there's going to be a January GSL, wouldn't it make sense to use the 2010 foreign events? If this is true then Huk would have made S class by already winning MLG.

I have a dream, that some day I wouldn't see any imba comments in GSL threads.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 11 2010 19:49 GMT
#164
On December 12 2010 04:31 hidiliho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 16:03 Defacer wrote:
So,

If Huk wanted to qualify he would have to get to the top of the Korean Ladder and take out a Code A player

OR

Win MLG again.

That sounds insanely hard.



If there's going to be a January GSL, wouldn't it make sense to use the 2010 foreign events? If this is true then Huk would have made S class by already winning MLG.


If they used 2010 events, HuK would probably have a high chance of being a seed an A class, he won't be S class.

Also, it was never mentioned in the post that the Ladder competitions have anything to do with qualifying correct? As far as it is written, the bottom 16 Code A spots filled with offline qualifiers in the same way the other 3 open seasons have been.
the farm ends here
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
December 11 2010 20:10 GMT
#165
JINRO/IDRA HWAITING!!!
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 11 2010 20:41 GMT
#166
On December 11 2010 15:02 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
It sounds like a system of Relegation which would be awesome. There isn't hardly any relegation in professional American sports, and it's always been a competitive mechanic I've envied of the Europeans.


That's because our franchise system works differently from European soccer, team relegation wouldn't really work in the nfl, nba or mlb as they currently exist.
:O
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 11 2010 20:45 GMT
#167
I feel like the cycling between Code S and Code A should be much more volatile. There should be 16 Code S spots up for contention each season, not just 8.

It's better for viewers, too. Who wants one of their favorite players to become 'that guy who loses round robin 1-2 but not 0-3, so he stays in Code S'? I'd rather they drop to Code A and watch them crush their way back into Code S next season.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 11 2010 20:47 GMT
#168
On December 11 2010 17:01 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 16:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
However nice it is that they're reserving spots for foreigners, I don't agree with the decision. I am a devoted fan of several foreign players, but if one of them got in solely because he was reserved a spot and not because he earned it himself, I will not cheer him on in the GSL.

Have to say I agree.


The problem is that its impractical and potentially risky for foreigners to try and earn code A. To do so they would have to travel to Korea and live there while they go through offlines and GSL's to work up to code A/S; this gives quality foriegn players that couldn't afford to do all that traveling a reasonable shot at GSL.

Additionally with seemingly more Koreans starting to travel to foriegn tournaments the fields will likely be sufficiently strong to ensure that any qualifying foreigners aren't two notches below the GSL code A skill level.

The impoportant thing to understand here is that it gives forigner players who otherwise couldn't even attempt GSL qualifications (evne if they are good enough) a chance to get in the GSL.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
December 11 2010 20:50 GMT
#169
offline preliminary


offline=LAN? or do you mean they meet up at one place just like this years GSL qualifiers
MiniTsunami
Profile Joined June 2010
United States274 Posts
December 11 2010 20:59 GMT
#170
On December 12 2010 05:50 Versita wrote:
Show nested quote +
offline preliminary


offline=LAN? or do you mean they meet up at one place just like this years GSL qualifiers


Offline just means that it was like the qualifiers of this years GSL. Not that it is LAN as unfortunate as that is.
Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
December 11 2010 21:01 GMT
#171
how much do we have to pay to watch these? seems like GSL preseason just got split up into two different tourneys. is it still a tourney with 64 except code S players play the winners of the code A players?
fuck lag
YoungNeil
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada328 Posts
December 11 2010 21:34 GMT
#172
While I'm no fan of Bo1 matches, I like everything else about this format. It's a little complicated, but it looks fair (besides Bo1) and more interesting than straight single-elim tournaments. Hopefully Gom will reconsider their decision to use Bo1 matches.

+ Show Spoiler [Probably Pointless Speculation] +
So, what foreigners do we think have the best chances of being given Code A spots? If we're going by major tournament winners, I would consider the following the most likely choices:

HuK (MLG Raleigh)
Fenix (IEM American Championships)
MorroW (IEM Cologne)
Namaa (DreamHack)

All other non-Korean winners of major tournaments (as classified by Liquipedia) already have Code A or S. However, I expect Gom to use a more holistic system.
Kiwikaki would be a good choice, seeing as he took 2nd at MLG Raleigh and 4th at MLG DC.
HuK also got 3rd at MLG DC, so that should improve his chances.
SeleCT got 7th at Raleigh and 2nd at DC.
Sjow and Socke also seem to be tearing stuff up in Europe, so maybe one of them?

I would expect to see at least one player of each race chosen. I also expect that nobody who actually played in the GSL will be chosen. So, my prediction are HuK, Kiwikaki, Fenix, and...Dimaga? It was hard to pick a Zerg, but I figured there was going to be at least one European player. On that same note, two Canadian players may seem too much, so perhaps it'll only be one of HuK and Kiwikaki. But I'm apparently a fanboy, so I'm keeping both of them there! Hopefully we'll know the real choices soon.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 11 2010 22:17 GMT
#173
On December 12 2010 06:34 YoungNeil wrote:
While I'm no fan of Bo1 matches, I like everything else about this format. It's a little complicated, but it looks fair (besides Bo1) and more interesting than straight single-elim tournaments. Hopefully Gom will reconsider their decision to use Bo1 matches.

Are you sure you're not thinking of single elimination? That doesn't mean Bo1.
YoungNeil
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 22:27:52
December 11 2010 22:26 GMT
#174
On December 12 2010 07:17 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 06:34 YoungNeil wrote:
While I'm no fan of Bo1 matches, I like everything else about this format. It's a little complicated, but it looks fair (besides Bo1) and more interesting than straight single-elim tournaments. Hopefully Gom will reconsider their decision to use Bo1 matches.

Are you sure you're not thinking of single elimination? That doesn't mean Bo1.


I know that there's a difference between single elimination and Bo1, but people in this thread have been saying that the group stages will use Bo1 matches. It's possible that this isn't true; I certainly hope so. I did forget to specify the group stages in my post, I'm sure that the single elimination stage will use Bo3/5/7, like the current GSL. I don't think Gom has specifically mentioned that, but they'd be crazy to do otherwise.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
December 11 2010 22:30 GMT
#175
I don't think it's out of line to assume the group stages will be bo1. It's supposed to be a bo3, but against your whole group, rather than just against 1 person. Isn't that how group stages work at Dreamhack or in other star leagues?
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
December 11 2010 22:47 GMT
#176
wow 900 min for being code s? Thats awesome, a good gesture to show that they care about all progamers making an effort to be good at sc2.
Tahts halo dont worry
tyme
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada26 Posts
December 11 2010 22:48 GMT
#177
Group stages should be round robin format, you play everyone in your group in a bo1 series and top 2 players who have the highest rating advance.
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
December 11 2010 22:58 GMT
#178
On December 12 2010 01:48 ZeNd0kUn wrote:
I would suggest a best of 2 with a score system .. if 2 players take 1 game each it's a draw and if a player wins both it's a win. And scores should be given according to wins, draws etc. I think this will also decrease the number of ties within a group which itself will be pretty complicated.


I really like that idea.
McMonty
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada379 Posts
December 11 2010 23:15 GMT
#179
First of all: I Like this system!

Secondly: Questions: Can foreigners who are not in the group of 4 reserved spots still try to go through the offline preliminaries? Do they forfeit their spot in the group of 4 if they want to try and qualify? And how do they determine who gets a reserved spot among foreigners?
Sembei
Profile Joined October 2002
Argentina48 Posts
December 11 2010 23:15 GMT
#180
On December 11 2010 19:08 Trumpet wrote:
I'm a little disappointed now that it's happening. I really liked the big open tournaments.

I don't want to watch the same tournament month after month. And I liked knowing that every player in the ro64 had earned his spot by winning, not by invites.

Things like morrow winning the IEM tournament that he wasn't even originally invited to make me wary of all these codes and special qualifiers.

I guess we'll have lots of fan favorites at the very least. I'm also really hoping they change up the maps.

I'll be watching in any case, can't wait to see it when it actually airs =)


I don't know if you are getting it correctly... the tournament is still open. There is an offline preliminary to get into code A and between each tournament will be a decision match between top class vs lower class S to decide the participants in the next class S tournament. 8 players from Code S could lose they rank between each season, that's a lot (25%!). So, it wont be the same tournament over and over.
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