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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
Interesting stuff from MBC. On the one hand they did what I expected and bought themselves more time. On the other hand they seem determined to go ahead with the proceedings in order to get some sort of precedent ruling (either that or they're just trying to appear ready to go through with things so they have more leverage in the mediation talks). | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:23 chongu wrote: *knocks on wood* btw, is it me... or does those answers sound very badass? : o They are bad ass they are the real MBC game HEROES!!!!! + Show Spoiler [ Obligatory pic] + ![[image loading]](http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7588/4mhj13bzl9rg6.jpg) | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
It's good to know that this keeps getting pushed back. Maybe, maybe, maybe both sides will just decide to drop it one day if progress is this slow. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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cocoa_sg
Singapore296 Posts
On December 10 2010 16:39 infinitestory wrote: It's going to be ridiculously bad PR if Actiblizz does end up killing BW, since they've said they have no intentions of doing so. They're in a big bind right now. They have to win and show dominance over IP rights without crippling the broadcasting companies to the point where BW falters. That's also probably why Actiblizz has not (and will not?) pursue an injunction. I so agree with you on this. Honestly, imo, these lawsuits are so VERY unnecessary. BW and SC2 are running fine together right now, and everyone is talking about great games in between. This only dampens the mood of the fans, like me... Blizzard has to be WILLING to take a compromise on the extent of their IP rights. There can never be an ultimatum if it will only backfire on you in the PR department. Think about that please, ActiBlizzard! At least, we get to see BW for a while longer. =3 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:09 _Quasar_ wrote: And since they said they do not see esports as a source of profit, they should make an agreement (but not only they, MBC and OGN too), so that the Blizzard will be somewhat promoted through these broadcasts so that we'll see that this is not only the product of OGN, but of the developer company too. That would be correct from all points of view #_# You believe the company line? In recent times, Activision Blizzard has been monetizing all sorts of things. Although Microsoft has not directly confirmed it, most industry observers conclude that pressure/leverage from CoD caused MSFT to increase the price on XBox Live, with a portion of that revenue going to ATVI. And that's just one example among many. Also, YEARS ago, before this entire conflict started, Blizzard's branding was prominently displayed in BW leagues. But of course one doesn't continue to promote someone who refuses to offer reasonable licensing terms, and later, sues you. Thanks for the update. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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ArbAttack
Canada198 Posts
Fingers crossed for 5 + years of legal battle, I'd be happy with 17 years of BW. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On December 11 2010 01:55 darmousseh wrote: Blizzard could simply request an injunction to prevent further damages until the trial is over. I'm sure that would cause MBC to negotiate fairly quickly. Not sure if this works in korea. Except they've already said that they wont do an injunction, so it'd be going back on their word. Also it'd show weakness on Blizzard's part seeing that really, "why wouldn't blizzard want a court battle?" MBC Game really did make the right move -- Blizzard assumes that they hold 100% of the property rights, but MBC Game disagrees. The court is the only entity that can decide who owns what clearly. ONLY after that will they be able to negotiate properly. There's a reason this entire thing took 3 frigging years -- i twas a battle over property rights and not much else. If blizzard does indeed own the property rights, then MBC Game cannot lose, but can only gain, from this trial -- since Blizzard acts like they own it anyway, and if the court rules that way, so be it, but there's a chance court can make some interesting decision (the interesting decision, imo, that would be the right one) | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
Blizzard "Mediation!" MBC "OK, but..." So, it sounds to me like they'll agree to agree at some point. MBC is just looking to define the gray area between IP rights and Blizzard owning your soul. | ||
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mmdmmd
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On December 11 2010 03:59 mmdmmd wrote: Judging from the recent GSL games, Blizz need to win this more than ever and ASAP. I don't see GSL going anywhere if the games continues to be 4 min all in + random champion every season. Have you watched any of Jinro's games? Or IdrAs? Or ST_Squirtles? Or Nestea v MakaPrime? Have you watched any games at all or are you reading the LR threads and just regurgitating hearsay? There have been plenty of non all-in games, please do not make a rash overgeneralization. Also there have been 3 seasons of GSL Opens so far. Open as in any player who shows up in Korea can play. How can there not be 3 randoms champions? Do you expect FD or Nestea to repeat within a month when there are thousands of players in the initial player pool? It is really a bit ridiculous to think we would have 3 super well-known champs by the end of 3 months. Did anyone know who MarineKing.Prime was before last season? Did YOU know Nestea was KTF Zergbong before he won? The GSL "real" seasons have not even begun, these opens were to determine Code "S" and "A" Players for the 2011 season. Next year with Blizzard Cup, year ending 8 man tourny, that will be known players who win. These opens are for players to prove themselves for next year. Relax, enjoy and about the whine please. | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On December 10 2010 21:24 cocoa_sg wrote: Blizzard has to be WILLING to take a compromise on the extent of their IP rights. As a Multinational Corporation, one of their primary organization objectives (true for almost any MNC) is to protect their IP rights. IP rights protections is a driving force behind Free Trade Agreements such as NAFTA of EU. Compromises on IP rights sets a dangerous precedent for future breaches of IP rights. Litigation is usually the last option as it is expensive, time-consuming and severely hurts the reputation of a Corporation while also having an uncertain outcome. An Entertainment-Media Corporation only have their creative and intellectual property to protect. It is their product, their "good" developed through R&D investment and the vehicle in which they attempt to be profitable. To allow breaches of their IP Rights uncontested is suicidal for future earnings and growth. Why does it seem like everyone forgets that all corporations in every industry protects their IP rights and yet in this case they act as if IP rights do not deserve to be recognized? I love BW myself, but to be perfectly frank MBC has knowingly and purposefully breached the IP rights of Blizzard for quite some time without repercussions. MBC is definitely in a win-win situation, as if they lose the status quo will be unaffected. Blizzard as everything to lose as now they must wait on the decision of the courts to decide their property rights. | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On December 11 2010 04:14 GhoSt[shield] wrote: Have you watched any of Jinro's games? Or IdrAs? Or ST_Squirtles? Or Nestea v MakaPrime? Have you watched any games at all or are you reading the LR threads and just regurgitating hearsay? There have been plenty of non all-in games, please do not make a rash overgeneralization. Yes I have watched. Not everyone but most of what I've seen involves semi all-in, at least the players give up after their first strat/attack fails, most of them don't seem to have a plan B in game. And coming from a long SC/BW pro-scene background. Both the spirit and time of sc2 games feels semi-all ins to me. Also there have been 3 seasons of GSL Opens so far. Open as in any player who shows up in Korea can play. How can there not be 3 randoms champions? Do you expect FD or Nestea to repeat within a month when there are thousands of players in the initial player pool? It is really a bit ridiculous to think we would have 3 super well-known champs by the end of 3 months. Did anyone know who MarineKing.Prime was before last season? Did YOU know Nestea was KTF Zergbong before he won? Yes I do know many player's histories for the reasons stated above The GSL "real" seasons have not even begun, these opens were to determine Code "S" and "A" Players for the 2011 season. Next year with Blizzard Cup, year ending 8 man tourny, that will be known players who win. These opens are for players to prove themselves for next year. Relax, enjoy and about the whine please. In the original post: "Judging from the recent GSL games" I am not going to argue with "what might happen" | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
On December 11 2010 04:22 GhoSt[shield] wrote: As a Multinational Corporation, one of their primary organization objectives (true for almost any MNC) is to protect their IP rights. IP rights protections is a driving force behind Free Trade Agreements such as NAFTA of EU. Compromises on IP rights sets a dangerous precedent for future breaches of IP rights. Litigation is usually the last option as it is expensive, time-consuming and severely hurts the reputation of a Corporation while also having an uncertain outcome. An Entertainment-Media Corporation only have their creative and intellectual property to protect. It is their product, their "good" developed through R&D investment and the vehicle in which they attempt to be profitable. To allow breaches of their IP Rights uncontested is suicidal for future earnings and growth. Why does it seem like everyone forgets that all corporations in every industry protects their IP rights and yet in this case they act as if IP rights do not deserve to be recognized? I love BW myself, but to be perfectly frank MBC has knowingly and purposefully breached the IP rights of Blizzard for quite some time without repercussions. MBC is definitely in a win-win situation, as if they lose the status quo will be unaffected. Blizzard as everything to lose as now they must wait on the decision of the courts to decide their property rights. Are you a member of shield? Or just a Bisu fanboy? Also, I don't understand why ActiBlizz would ever guarantee that they wouldn't kill BW, when their ultimate trump card that they have over all of the broadcasting companies is the ability to kill BW. | ||
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