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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 04 2010 20:39 GMT
#221
I saw this news last night before going to sleep and its really disappointing. Just when we thought we had BW back.

On November 05 2010 04:39 Waxangel wrote:
Just a reminder, the practical implications of CJ's ownership stakes in OnMedia (the parent company of OGN) and Gretech are still unknown. There has been a lot of speculation, but we have not yet seen an example where CJ's ownership in either company has clearly led to some result.


Hopefully we will see some positive result. Something like what happened with OGN and CJ merging their pro-teams.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
November 04 2010 20:44 GMT
#222
Wow, can't believe OSL might get shut down.

OGN is pretty much screwed as I understand.
Brood War is forever
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 04 2010 20:47 GMT
#223
It's so funny. 99% of Korean netizens support Blizzard and disparage KeSPA. 99% of foreigners here support KeSPA and disparage Blizzard.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
November 04 2010 20:50 GMT
#224
On November 05 2010 05:06 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 04:46 Assymptotic wrote:
I mean shit, practicing 12 hours a day, everyday, but only making about $30,000 USD a year if you're not a Jaedong or Bisu? That sucks.

And if you don't make it, you have very little to fall back on since most of these kids don't go to college or anything. If KesPA fell apart, so many kids would be dumped in a rough spot.

The same is true for SC2

The same is true for sports, music, academia...
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 04 2010 20:53 GMT
#225
First MBC, now OGN? ...le sigh.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Arckan
Profile Joined September 2010
243 Posts
November 04 2010 20:54 GMT
#226
On November 04 2010 21:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer of Blizzard, said 'We asked OGN to either acquire the legal right to broadcast or stop the process of the league, but all we got in return was the already planned schedule of new OSL. This only meant that they'd go forward without our consent.' He also said 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs. However, it is more important that we protect our rights, and it's a shame that we have to sort this out in such a way.'


Blizzard disgusts me
OGN uses Blizzard's game as a medium for their own gain, I see nothing wrong with OGN having to pay royalties to Blizzard. I understand that this came from Blizzard and not a third-party unbiased source, but it certainly doesn't sound like OGN was/is willing to negotiate.
Selith
Profile Joined September 2010
United States238 Posts
November 04 2010 20:58 GMT
#227
On November 05 2010 05:24 hitthat wrote:
As was said 10000000000 times before even if KeSPA are morons and Blizzard has legal rights to such an actions, that still doesnt mean that they are not greedy S.O.B.s.


Truth to be said, all corporations and entities powered by corporations are greedy. Both KeSPA and ActiBlizzard wants $, and they don't want to lose it.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
November 04 2010 21:00 GMT
#228
On November 05 2010 05:47 orgolove wrote:
It's so funny. 99% of Korean netizens support Blizzard and disparage KeSPA. 99% of foreigners here support KeSPA and disparage Blizzard.

That is quite funny.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 21:02:31
November 04 2010 21:01 GMT
#229
Hey, Blizzard, it's really convenient that you're owned by Activision now because it means that the two biggest dickbag companies in video gaming are really one in the same!

Honestly, Blizzard should grow the fuck up. I hope they not only lose this court case but I hope the Korean courts lay down some super ridiculous ruling on Blizzard too to make them wish they never pursued this path.

Sorry, but, without Blizzard's interference BW could easily continue for another decade, maybe even longer. So they really need to just leave the entire scene alone and go back to making MMOs.

edit: Stop bringing up royalties. OGN, MBC, and KeSPA have all said that while they feel they shouldn't have to pay royalties that they'd be okay with doing so. Blizzard doesn't care about that, they want complete control over the scene.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 04 2010 21:02 GMT
#230
On November 05 2010 06:00 0neder wrote:
That is quite funny.

I don't even have any idea what's true and what's not any more TT
None of the sources we have are reliable, it's all propaganda / forumers giving their useless opinions
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 04 2010 21:04 GMT
#231
really surprises me. i thought they only have legal trouble with mbc.

but i guess it doesnt really matter in the end. either ogn/mbc/kespa/whoever win this case against blizz/gretech at the courts or bw will die in less than 4 months...

fuck you blizzard, sc2/gsl is getting rolling anyway, see e.g. boxers huge contract offer.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Borknagarush
Profile Joined February 2009
176 Posts
November 04 2010 21:16 GMT
#232
On November 05 2010 06:02 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 06:00 0neder wrote:
That is quite funny.

I don't even have any idea what's true and what's not any more TT
None of the sources we have are reliable, it's all propaganda / forumers giving their useless opinions



True is that the most people on this site is here to watch good Korean players competing in game which has distinctive micro and positioning and not require HD quality to identify objects in streams and vods.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 21:22:31
November 04 2010 21:20 GMT
#233
On November 05 2010 06:02 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 06:00 0neder wrote:
That is quite funny.

I don't even have any idea what's true and what's not any more TT
None of the sources we have are reliable, it's all propaganda / forumers giving their useless opinions


Frankly, if Koreans really do support Blizzard en masse it's for only two reasons. First, they're used to KeSPA being a bunch of horrible douchebags to their players. Which is why, prior to this, most people on TL didn't like KeSPA. Second, they honestly believe that Blizzard wants Brood War to continue. That Blizzard wants to grow it and keep OGN and MBC playing Brood War.

Brood War is still way more popular than SC2 in South Korea. If South Koreans honestly thought that Blizzard was going to be shutting down or trying to harm the Brood War scene then no one would support them. So I don't now if the South Koreans are simply gullible, if those numbers are totally wrong and people's sentiments are much more divided than we've been hearing, or if Blizzard is reassuring their South Korean fans that they want to keep the BW scene alive while telling us Americans absolutely nothing.

Honestly though, Blizzard's actions do not reflect good intentions of keeping the scene alive. So how anyone could think that Blizzard has Brood War's best interest at heart is completely beyond me. That's why I don't believe this shit about, "most Koreans support Blizzard!"
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
November 04 2010 21:23 GMT
#234
On November 05 2010 00:36 AyJay wrote:
There isn't one million views.

There is 2.7 Million views.

http://ch.gomtv.com/427/28099/391700


Those are VOD downloads, not live viewers.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 04 2010 21:30 GMT
#235
This was too confusing for me.

It says that "OGN has acquired the rights" but then "OGN will air OSL without consent".

1. Isn't it enough to acquire the rights? Doesn't that mean green light?

2. How can Blizzard lose something like this? This isn't like football or anything. This is a product made and own by Blizzard and they have the right to their own game, or?

ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
November 04 2010 21:34 GMT
#236
This rollercoaster knows no bounds.

Blizzard -clearly- does not want to make friends with the Korean media.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 04 2010 21:35 GMT
#237
mmmm I guess this was inevitable, but it's still pretty depressing.I don't see how OGN is going to wiggle itself out of this, so hopefully the damage isn't too harsh.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 04 2010 21:43 GMT
#238
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 04 2010 21:44 GMT
#239
i don't think the situation of kespa being the de-facto licensing body for competitive sc can continue. it does not continue in the non-boring branch of development (blizzard demanding money above profitable operation level for sc broadcasting, tournaments collapse and need to be reorganized under a different structure). that leaves the interesting question of how players are to be organized.

some enterprising guy with legal and labor organization experience might be able to form a union or something to establish some new leagues in cooperation with the sponsor teams.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
November 04 2010 21:52 GMT
#240
I hope this doesn't kill the osl. As badly as blizzard doesn't want bw to live, I'm gonna be pissed if they bring it down like this.
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