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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 03:43:24
November 04 2010 03:39 GMT
#201
Progamers will receive salaries on the level of professional sports when e-Sports starts raking in as much money. No BW programer that I'm aware of has a salary much above ~$300k, so $200k is quite a decent amount.

Any claims that it is a travesty that Boxer's not raking in millions must not understand that sports are a business. It's not like professional baseball/basketball/football/etc. players here in the U.S. receive huge salaries because it is their 'fair share'.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 04 2010 03:45 GMT
#202
On November 04 2010 12:31 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:18 silentreality wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:45 darmousseh wrote:
On November 03 2010 14:00 Selith wrote:
Update:

KeSPA officially announced they retired BoxeR from progamer status. Now he's "Amateur" status.

As a result, BoxeR will not be able to come to any KeSPA-sponsored progames for 3 years, and will not be able to re-acquire progamer status for a year.


Or in other words "F!@# you mongolians.....blizzard"



I think that was a little misleading..

According to the KeSPA website, they did announce the retirement of Boxer from professional status.. however, it says that it was done at the request of the team (SKT1) and the player himself. That's a little different than KeSPA forcing retirement.


Yes, he has to request retirement or else he is still bound by his contract and is expected to sign another contract. In any fashion, this is a kespa rule that applies to everyone and it's a retarded one. It's a way of ensuring a monopoly on the best players.

Hoooray for baseless assumptions that demonise KeSPA!
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
November 04 2010 03:48 GMT
#203
Effort + IloveOov incoming.
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justsomeguy2
Profile Joined November 2010
Albania1 Post
November 04 2010 03:52 GMT
#204
This isn't the right place to post this, but hte Blizzard TOU agreement and suing korean tournaments is locked. I just wanted to say that I think there is a colorable counterclaim against Blizzard for antitrust violations.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 04 2010 04:00 GMT
#205
On November 04 2010 12:45 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 12:31 darmousseh wrote:
On November 04 2010 11:18 silentreality wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:45 darmousseh wrote:
On November 03 2010 14:00 Selith wrote:
Update:

KeSPA officially announced they retired BoxeR from progamer status. Now he's "Amateur" status.

As a result, BoxeR will not be able to come to any KeSPA-sponsored progames for 3 years, and will not be able to re-acquire progamer status for a year.


Or in other words "F!@# you mongolians.....blizzard"



I think that was a little misleading..

According to the KeSPA website, they did announce the retirement of Boxer from professional status.. however, it says that it was done at the request of the team (SKT1) and the player himself. That's a little different than KeSPA forcing retirement.


Yes, he has to request retirement or else he is still bound by his contract and is expected to sign another contract. In any fashion, this is a kespa rule that applies to everyone and it's a retarded one. It's a way of ensuring a monopoly on the best players.

Hoooray for baseless assumptions that demonise KeSPA!

that's the basis of about every argument presented in the threads relating to this whole Kespa/Gom/Blizzard fiasco to date. Just swap around the names at will. :/
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threehundred
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada911 Posts
November 04 2010 04:07 GMT
#206
company I?

intel? lol
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smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
November 04 2010 04:15 GMT
#207
I wonder what would happen if boxer was to win GSL2
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
November 04 2010 04:20 GMT
#208
I wonder what would happen if boxer was to win GSL2
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 04:26:57
November 04 2010 04:25 GMT
#209
EG is picking up boxer!


Tell everyone


+ Show Spoiler +
no?
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
November 04 2010 04:25 GMT
#210
I hope he uses some of the money to make his own team, SC2 could still use a couple more elite level teams, how awesome would it be to have boxer at the head of one of them. (ps: recruit Cella and Phoenix!!!)
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shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
November 04 2010 04:28 GMT
#211
On November 04 2010 13:25 TheGiftedApe wrote:
I hope he uses some of the money to make his own team, SC2 could still use a couple more elite level teams, how awesome would it be to have boxer at the head of one of them. (ps: recruit Cella and Phoenix!!!)


"It is understood that corporation "I" would sponsor BoxeR personally for 200 million won, then use 300 million won for the management of a team, for total of 500 million won used for a StarCraft 2 game team."

Did you not read the article?
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silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
November 04 2010 04:39 GMT
#212
On November 04 2010 12:11 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:12 silentreality wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:49 Hakker wrote:
On November 04 2010 10:39 silentreality wrote:
On November 04 2010 09:49 Hakker wrote:
On November 04 2010 08:49 ultramafia wrote:
You cannot compare the salary of a professional athlete in a billion dollar sport to a progamer. I also would bet that any athlete in Korea is making no where near that amount of money. Sports is one of America's largest money makers. Professional athletes make a million times more than athletes in most other countries.

Maybe he'll sign FoxeR. He seems to really respect his play in interviews. Or maybe he'll only go for big dogs.



Unless I'm vastly overestimating the economic situation of Korea (eg. third-world country-wise), $170,000 is piddly for a national icon and celebrity. Starcraft is the most televised sport in Korea. The industry definitely has the means to pay their players much more than they currently offer. I seriously couldn't even begin to understand the horror of accounting (or stretching of the truth) that must be going on to make Esports an 'Unprofitable Industry' in the words of Kespa.


While I'm totally SC fanboi (getting on in the years now..)..

You're vastly overestimating Boxer's status in mainstream Korean culture.


I'm not going to try and argue with a korean native (according to your status atleast) regarding korean culture, There are not many culuturally relevant people that have DVDs based on their careers, biographies written about them, fan clubs with millions of members and even documentaries being made about them that make less money than the average doctor.

Usually with a certain level of notability also comes an equal level of compensation.


You're right. Boxer had all those things. I hate to play the devil's advocate in this case because I've played starcraft since vanilla and followed e-sports since its infant stages... but Boxer is a famous icon.... in a very niche market. Yes, he is the most famous professional gamer. Yes, many people will have at least heard of him in passing.

However, I still stand by my statement that Boxer's influence on mainstream Korean culture is very limited, and I think most Koreans will agree with me on this.

Nonetheless! The KRW200mn that Boxer will potentially receive pales in comparison to the amount that professional sports stars make in the US.. but it's a sizeable sum by Korean standards. (Unfortunately, our sports culture is a bit lagging.. which is one of the biggest complaints I have about living in Korea. With the possible exception of baseball, all of our focus is on national competitions)


hey you know what would bring sc2 in the main stream.

if kim hyungjun from ss501 joined boxer's team.

/whistles by


LOL. That would definitely help solidify SC2's position as main stream
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
November 04 2010 05:05 GMT
#213
On November 04 2010 12:04 Selith wrote:
Korean professional sports is kind of sad because the associations only support the ones that are popular.

Figure skating has been all but plainly ignored until Kim Yuna showed up. The skating association of Korea never did anything to help Kim Yuna to get to where she is.



And they had the balls to take cuts from her prize money.

;p

Just wanted to comment on this quote. I fully agree about this and how Korea is with sports and anything that's professional. They will typical ignore it until someone famous or worthwhile shows up to be famous and then the association, corporation or Korea in general will then push it to make it even more famous and call it a Korean pride jewel.

That's what happened with figure skating recently in Korea, soccer back in 2002 World Cup (soccer wasn't well known in Korea before then until Korea got 4th place and now it's like the most popular sport), baseball (World Baseball Classic and Olympics), and now Starcraft 2.....

I guess in a way, it's good now that BoxeR was able to bring SC2 to a big media attention since now it's only going to go uphill for SC2...
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
November 04 2010 05:12 GMT
#214
In reality, winning the GSL is not necessarily better than winning the OSL from a monetary point of view. Despite GSL tripled the prize amount, winning an OSL means bonus from the team sponsor and greater leverage in negotiating for the next contract

Just stating the obvious, but for SC2 to move forward, we need to see big sponsors with well known names laying down the big bucks and stay in it with the intention of long term commitment like SKT and KT.

For Boxer to get a sponsorship so quickly, it is good step forward. What Boxer needs to be careful of is how the contract is written and how long the association between "i" and Boxer lasts.
silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
November 04 2010 05:48 GMT
#215
On November 04 2010 14:05 QuickStriker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 12:04 Selith wrote:
Korean professional sports is kind of sad because the associations only support the ones that are popular.

Figure skating has been all but plainly ignored until Kim Yuna showed up. The skating association of Korea never did anything to help Kim Yuna to get to where she is.



And they had the balls to take cuts from her prize money.

;p

Just wanted to comment on this quote. I fully agree about this and how Korea is with sports and anything that's professional. They will typical ignore it until someone famous or worthwhile shows up to be famous and then the association, corporation or Korea in general will then push it to make it even more famous and call it a Korean pride jewel.

That's what happened with figure skating recently in Korea, soccer back in 2002 World Cup (soccer wasn't well known in Korea before then until Korea got 4th place and now it's like the most popular sport), baseball (World Baseball Classic and Olympics), and now Starcraft 2.....

I guess in a way, it's good now that BoxeR was able to bring SC2 to a big media attention since now it's only going to go uphill for SC2...


Baseball was always very popular here and is till this day the most established professional sport in Korea. Soccer is only really popular every 4 years (World Cup... but during the world cup things are *crazy*).

Starcraft2 is still just a video game (albeit a very very famous one).. my hope is that one day it will truly be considered a sport and become main stream.. so that we can have starcraft results shown during the evening news on MBC (or any of the other major channels )
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
November 04 2010 05:52 GMT
#216
I think it would be funny if the corporation "I" was actually AMD.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
November 04 2010 07:10 GMT
#217
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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 07:22:17
November 04 2010 07:11 GMT
#218
200 mil won = $178,987.00

jesus.. and to think Contracted Halo pros get more than that.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
November 04 2010 07:27 GMT
#219
Wow, Boxer is bringing home the bacon without having to win anything. Awesome.
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Vazze
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden279 Posts
November 04 2010 07:33 GMT
#220
On November 04 2010 16:11 zaii wrote:
200 mil won = $178,987.00

jesus.. and to think Contracted Halo pros get more than that.

I'm sorry, what?!
Can you show source to that, thanks?
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