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@ the Gretech employee guy (or so he claimed)
You ask why people think that Kespa has made any contribution to esports? Heres my perspective:
Other than the game that is played (which is merely a tool, mind), Kespa is responsible for everything there is in E-Sport today: televised Leagues, stable-salaried proteams, arena for top players (Leagues) + training ground for young aspirants (training houses, B-teams), celebrity gamers.. Take a look: + Show Spoiler +
It is easy to see why people like me want to have them around, because we clearly see how much they have done, and it matters to us.. They may have screwed up here and there, but from my Point of View, their accomplishments far outshine their shortcomings.
Now on the other hand, looking at what Gretech has done.. Not much, aint it? :/ And now its trying to kill off all said accomplishment, making thousands of people jobless because of a little profit, or a little pride.. Is it still hard to understand our sentiments?
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On October 14 2010 17:51 JunkkaGom wrote:
I am a gretech employee so i wont give any opinion over this. I just dont understand there are some people who believe kespa has made any contribution to esports.
So you're saying Kespa has made no contribution at all to esports?
Geesh.
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Gretech has an obvious slam dunk here if they really wanted to push it, but kespa is using against them the very thing you are talking about, that ANY changes made would only hurt the pro scene. Is this true? We have no idea unless facts are revealed from either side, anything else is just speculation.
I would highly doubt that even in korea kespa would be able to win, because the abuse is obvious to anyone... and korea wont risk too much their relationship with the USA over this. Activision Blizzard isn't just any company afterall.There is zero wiggle room at all for Kespa, beyond that gretech doesn't want to alienate the BW scene. If that factor was taken out this would already be settled in or out of court long ago
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On October 14 2010 19:04 Varth wrote:
Gretech has an obvious slam dunk here if they really wanted to push it, but kespa is using against them the very thing you are talking about, that ANY changes made would only hurt the pro scene. Is this true? We have no idea unless facts are revealed from either side, anything else is just speculation.
I would highly doubt that even in korea kespa would be able to win, because the abuse is obvious to anyone... and korea wont risk too much their relationship with the USA over this. Activision Blizzard isn't just any company afterall.There is zero wiggle room at all for Kespa, beyond that gretech doesn't want to alienate the BW scene. If that factor was taken out this would already be settled in or out of court long ago
American auto industry fail to get into the korean market. The american government had done nothing about it. Meanwhile the korean car makers are gaining market in the american market.
What makes you think the american government would do more for an american gaming company?
At the highest level, american national interest such as their pacific policy are more important than free trade and free access into korea e sport industry.
If this goes to court, I am pretty sure Kespa will find a way to win this. Hell, it may even open a loop hole for sc2 and future games that so that IP right will no longer be respected.
This may be a good thing or a bad thing.
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On October 14 2010 19:04 Varth wrote:
Gretech has an obvious slam dunk here if they really wanted to push it, but kespa is using against them the very thing you are talking about, that ANY changes made would only hurt the pro scene. Is this true? We have no idea unless facts are revealed from either side, anything else is just speculation.
I would highly doubt that even in korea kespa would be able to win, because the abuse is obvious to anyone... and korea wont risk too much their relationship with the USA over this. Activision Blizzard isn't just any company afterall. There is zero wiggle room at all for Kespa, beyond that gretech doesn't want to alienate the BW scene. If that factor was taken out this would already be settled in or out of court long ago
What is there to "risk"? You think the US government would stick their neck out for Activision-Blizzard. Definitely not. And the Korean government knows that.
And btw, Activision-Blizzard is far less important to the US government than SK and all the other chaebols are to Korea. They're not even in the same league.
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I really hope Blizzard will be destroyed in a court. This could teach them what is respect for thousands of people... gamers and fans.
And maybe they'll be forced to improve SC2 to BW gameplay level.
Because like this SC2 is not so epic.... i am already tired of it and i've already stopped laddering 1 week ago.
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On October 14 2010 19:27 alkampfer wrote:
I really hope Blizzard will be destroyed in a court. This could teach them what is respect for thousands of people... gamers and fans.
And maybe they'll be forced to improve SC2 to BW gameplay level.
Because like this SC2 is not so epic.... i am already tired of it and i've already stopped laddering 1 week ago.
Their respect for gamers and fans? WTF are you smoking? They created starcraft 1 and 2.
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On October 14 2010 19:46 stangstang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 19:27 alkampfer wrote:
I really hope Blizzard will be destroyed in a court. This could teach them what is respect for thousands of people... gamers and fans.
And maybe they'll be forced to improve SC2 to BW gameplay level.
Because like this SC2 is not so epic.... i am already tired of it and i've already stopped laddering 1 week ago. Their respect for gamers and fans? WTF are you smoking? They created starcraft 1 and 2.
AHAHAHAHAH so do you think that they created SC2 because of respect ???
They created it for money son... for money ONLY. And they want to kill BW for that also.
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blizzard created Starcraft 1.
Activision Blizzard created SCII and is doing all this shit. so i also hope they get destroyed 
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Yes the blizzard who created SC1 is no more the same company.
In 1997 Blizzard was still a game company made more of dreamers than moneymakers.
Now they have many more responsibilities... shareholders pressure and so on.
Every choice they make now is because of money, it's the world of big corporations.
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On October 14 2010 19:50 alkampfer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 19:46 stangstang wrote:On October 14 2010 19:27 alkampfer wrote:
I really hope Blizzard will be destroyed in a court. This could teach them what is respect for thousands of people... gamers and fans.
And maybe they'll be forced to improve SC2 to BW gameplay level.
Because like this SC2 is not so epic.... i am already tired of it and i've already stopped laddering 1 week ago. Their respect for gamers and fans? WTF are you smoking? They created starcraft 1 and 2. AHAHAHAHAH so do you think that they created SC2 because of respect ??? They created it for money son... for money ONLY. And they want to kill BW for that also.
oh yes. boohoo they created SC2 to make money. and guess what? people seem to like the games blizzard makes.
All the more power to you though. Fight the system! *shakes fist* screw you blizzard for creating these amazing games!
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Is that Leta and Odin in Hite Entus gear? They look siiiick! Storks haircut raises doubt about his sexual preference.
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On October 14 2010 19:59 alkampfer wrote:
Yes the blizzard who created SC1 is no more the same company.
In 1997 Blizzard was still a game company made more of dreamers than moneymakers.
Now they have many more responsibilities... shareholders pressure and so on.
Every choice they make now is because of money, it's the world of big corporations.
Guess what? back in 1997, they were out for money too. thats what a company does. they try to make money.
You mean blizzard is not the same company they were 13 years ago? You mean because they've been successful with what they've been doing that they are now exponentially larger?
:o stop the presses.
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On October 14 2010 20:02 Emon_ wrote:Is that Leta and Odin in Hite Entus gear? They look siiiick! Storks haircut raises doubt about his sexual preference.
Nah, Stork has a long-term gf and they're very lovey-dovey.
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lol people will never understand then continue to blindly support blizzard guys but remember... even the giants fall.
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On October 14 2010 19:59 stangstang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 19:50 alkampfer wrote:On October 14 2010 19:46 stangstang wrote:On October 14 2010 19:27 alkampfer wrote:
I really hope Blizzard will be destroyed in a court. This could teach them what is respect for thousands of people... gamers and fans.
And maybe they'll be forced to improve SC2 to BW gameplay level.
Because like this SC2 is not so epic.... i am already tired of it and i've already stopped laddering 1 week ago. Their respect for gamers and fans? WTF are you smoking? They created starcraft 1 and 2. AHAHAHAHAH so do you think that they created SC2 because of respect ??? They created it for money son... for money ONLY. And they want to kill BW for that also. oh yes. boohoo they created SC2 to make money. and guess what? people seem to like the games blizzard makes. All the more power to you though. Fight the system! *shakes fist* screw you blizzard for creating these amazing games!
It's not about fighting the system. Is about fighting activision Moneyzzard.
So you like sc2 ? You have probably never played BW
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Was a little hard to make out from the first pic. Leta in a CJ shirt. . . I'm at a loss for words.
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On October 14 2010 20:03 stangstang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 19:59 alkampfer wrote:
Yes the blizzard who created SC1 is no more the same company.
In 1997 Blizzard was still a game company made more of dreamers than moneymakers.
Now they have many more responsibilities... shareholders pressure and so on.
Every choice they make now is because of money, it's the world of big corporations. Guess what? back in 1997, they were out for money too. thats what a company does. they try to make money. You mean blizzard is not the same company they were 13 years ago? You mean because they've been successful with what they've been doing that they are now exponentially larger? :o stop the presses.
They have been succesfull yes, and probably they won't ever be as succesfull as in the past.
That's because Activision money hungering bought them and transformed them in another thing.
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On October 14 2010 20:09 alkampfer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 20:03 stangstang wrote:On October 14 2010 19:59 alkampfer wrote:
Yes the blizzard who created SC1 is no more the same company.
In 1997 Blizzard was still a game company made more of dreamers than moneymakers.
Now they have many more responsibilities... shareholders pressure and so on.
Every choice they make now is because of money, it's the world of big corporations. Guess what? back in 1997, they were out for money too. thats what a company does. they try to make money. You mean blizzard is not the same company they were 13 years ago? You mean because they've been successful with what they've been doing that they are now exponentially larger? :o stop the presses. They have been succesfull yes, and probably they won't ever be as succesfull as in the past. That's because Activision money hungering bought them and transformed them in another thing.
Before you continue with your completely irrational argument, I would like to correct you in that Activision did not buy Blizzard Entertainment. Activision merged with Vivendi Games, Blizzard Entertainment was a company under Vivendi Games. The resulting merged company just happens to be called Activision-Blizzard.
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