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[Spoiler] Our Last SC1 Bonjwa - Page 3

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StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
July 16 2009 14:21 GMT
#41
^^ nice article
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 16 2009 14:27 GMT
#42
god, when these pointless bonjwa discussions will end
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 16 2009 14:30 GMT
#43
On July 16 2009 23:27 Itachii wrote:
god, when these pointless bonjwa discussions will end

When we start playing Starcraft 2 and have actual, undisputable Bonjwas again.
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Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
July 16 2009 14:37 GMT
#44
Our last real Bonjwa was sAviOr... Then currently the one closest to it would probably be jaedong Bonjwa's have been awarded for not life time performance but more like dominance over a period solid of time. Bisu, jaedong and Flash are just Semi-Bonjwa as their dominance during any time has been short lived maybe stiff competition between the 3, i really though this would have been a jaedong post.

On July 16 2009 22:45 minus_human wrote:
hmmm... bisu - bonjwa? never

it feels good to be a hater


In all seriousness, Bisu's chances of winning the MSL are not that great, and Jaedong has a staggering lead on him in the Kespa rankings. His lead is almost worth a 1000 points, that's the same as sAviOr scored when he was in his prime, against the #2 KesPa at the time, Nada.

This is probably a better mark when you lead by a huge amount over number 2 ranked player, we adding little quarks to make it superstitious later like 3 msl 1 osl along with things like toppled the one before him etc.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
July 16 2009 14:59 GMT
#45
I am so glad you made this thread, now Bisu will go into slump mode and JD can proceed to take both leagues. Thanks!

Oh, and when are people finally going to start acknowledging the fact that Flash is starting to slip out of the top 3 due to fantasy playing so well? Right now people should be saying there can't be a bonjwa because of the JD/bisu/fantasy trio. Flash is playing terrible atm.
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 16 2009 15:05 GMT
#46
can't wait the ProLeague final. he will show his best, really sure!! gogo~
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Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
July 16 2009 15:17 GMT
#47
The competition is just so thick right now, it's very hard to be a bonjwa for these guys even if they reach and surpass the level of previous bonjwas. Both Bisu and Jaedong are best at their races for quite a while, but they can't just run over everything. Map making and discovery of all the new build orders simply made the game so much more balanced and competitive then ever, if that even sounds possible.
Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
July 16 2009 15:39 GMT
#48
He's not a bonjwa. Jaedongs better.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 16 2009 16:13 GMT
#49
jaedong and bisu both dont consistently dominate each other, so neither of them can be a bonjwa. and even as a bisu fan i must admit that from an objective point of view bisu and jaedong both possess about the same amount of "greatness".
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 16 2009 16:19 GMT
#50
On July 17 2009 01:13 Black Gun wrote:
jaedong and bisu both dont consistently dominate each other, so neither of them can be a bonjwa. and even as a bisu fan i must admit that from an objective point of view bisu and jaedong both possess about the same amount of "greatness".


It's not necessarily on their record vs. each other. It's easy to see that Jaedong is better overall - he's done better in the individual leagues, and there's no doubt to that. And don't give me this "curse" BS and all this crap about "map dependencies" because at the end of the day it's the man that is playing better that walks away from a BOx match. Neither of them are Bonjwas, but Bisu has no chance to be now, and JD is the only one with a chance. He may be able to do it, but he needs to keep his form up and continue dominating.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 16 2009 16:25 GMT
#51
On July 17 2009 01:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
It's not necessarily on their record vs. each other. It's easy to see that Jaedong is better overall - he's done better in the individual leagues, and there's no doubt to that. And don't give me this "curse" BS and all this crap about "map dependencies" because at the end of the day it's the man that is playing better that walks away from a BOx match. Neither of them are Bonjwas, but Bisu has no chance to be now, and JD is the only one with a chance. He may be able to do it, but he needs to keep his form up and continue dominating.

He's not dominating right now even. He's doing better than anyone else, but not by a wide enough margin for the term "dominating" to be appropriate.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 16 2009 16:29 GMT
#52
as far as im concerned the last bonjwa was savior
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 16 2009 16:37 GMT
#53
First off, Bisu wasn't a Bonjwa. He was on a 3 month streak, hardly bonjwa. Bonjwa's winning streaks have to be linked or else Julyzerg would be considered a Bonjwa. Second off, Fantasy has been better then Flash for quite some time now.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 16 2009 16:43 GMT
#54
You know what's a real shame about this thread?

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Spoiler] +

He never took into account that Iris is going to rape the piss out of Bisu
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 16:51:10
July 16 2009 16:50 GMT
#55
Didn't the 'Bisu Bonjwa' thing get knocked out already? To be a bonjwa you have to be virtually invencible for a certain amount of time, isn't it? Even if he gets an OSL win...
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 16 2009 17:11 GMT
#56
On July 17 2009 01:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
You know what's a real shame about this thread?

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Spoiler] +

He never took into account that Iris is going to rape the piss out of Bisu



lol? bisu can practice with fantasy, pretty much the strongest tvp player out there right now. i really dont see bisu being defeated by iris. im rather afraid of zergs as the zvp metagame seems to be shifted quite far towards z atm.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
July 16 2009 17:20 GMT
#57
Still remember that while Savior was destroying everyone in the MSL a few years back, he still uberly failed in the OSL, getting stuck in prelims and survivor stages for quite a while. Everyone still considered him bonjwa though cause he was destroying everything in MSL.


Yeah, but what we remember is that he did eventually take the gold in OSL towards the end of his dominance.
And at the same time he looked scary in the superfights in a couple of ways:

1) He was number one and killed Boxer, which was expected, in the hyped Superfight.
His win was expected, but the fact the match took place was a testimony to his prowess.
(poor boxer. I was so sad.)

2) NaDa, whose nuts I was hanging onto so tightly, ended up falling in the Superfight 3 (I think) and in the OSL to Savior.
(It was a good thing he did get the revenge though in the Masters.)

3) Savior all-killed the Superfight 'Ace' tournament basically.

It was all happening so fast and almost congruent.
He had trashed MSL, qualified and won OSL, and won those special exhibitions.

True though, there was a time when he couldn't take OSL, but there was also a time when he was in the finals and was winning.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 17:22:48
July 16 2009 17:21 GMT
#58
Lol, what's with all the 3s?
On July 17 2009 02:11 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2009 01:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
You know what's a real shame about this thread?

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Spoiler] +

He never took into account that Iris is going to rape the piss out of Bisu



lol? bisu can practice with fantasy, pretty much the strongest tvp player out there right now. i really dont see bisu being defeated by iris. im rather afraid of zergs as the zvp metagame seems to be shifted quite far towards z atm.

I don't see how anyone could miss that.
Arf
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 16 2009 17:25 GMT
#59
I think the meaning of bonjwa is fading into ignorance.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
July 16 2009 17:34 GMT
#60
On July 16 2009 23:27 Itachii wrote:
god, when these pointless bonjwa discussions will end


never
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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