Our last real Bonjwa was sAviOr... Then currently the one closest to it would probably be jaedong Bonjwa's have been awarded for not life time performance but more like dominance over a period solid of time. Bisu, jaedong and Flash are just Semi-Bonjwa as their dominance during any time has been short lived maybe stiff competition between the 3, i really though this would have been a jaedong post.

On July 16 2009 22:45 minus_human wrote:
hmmm... bisu - bonjwa? never

it feels good to be a hater

In all seriousness, Bisu's chances of winning the MSL are not that great, and Jaedong has a staggering lead on him in the Kespa rankings. His lead is almost worth a 1000 points, that's the same as sAviOr scored when he was in his prime, against the #2 KesPa at the time, Nada.

This is probably a better mark when you lead by a huge amount over number 2 ranked player, we adding little quarks to make it superstitious later like 3 msl 1 osl along with things like toppled the one before him etc.

Fr33t

United States1128 Posts

July 16 2009 14:59 GMT

#45

I am so glad you made this thread, now Bisu will go into slump mode and JD can proceed to take both leagues. Thanks!

Oh, and when are people finally going to start acknowledging the fact that Flash is starting to slip out of the top 3 due to fantasy playing so well? Right now people should be saying there can't be a bonjwa because of the JD/bisu/fantasy trio. Flash is playing terrible atm.

GoSu

Korea (South)1773 Posts

July 16 2009 15:05 GMT

#46

can't wait the ProLeague final. he will show his best, really sure!! gogo~

Smu

Serbia164 Posts

July 16 2009 15:17 GMT

#47

The competition is just so thick right now, it's very hard to be a bonjwa for these guys even if they reach and surpass the level of previous bonjwas. Both Bisu and Jaedong are best at their races for quite a while, but they can't just run over everything. Map making and discovery of all the new build orders simply made the game so much more balanced and competitive then ever, if that even sounds possible.

NonFactor

Sweden698 Posts

July 16 2009 15:39 GMT

#48

He's not a bonjwa. Jaedongs better.

Black Gun

Germany4482 Posts

July 16 2009 16:13 GMT

#49

jaedong and bisu both dont consistently dominate each other, so neither of them can be a bonjwa. and even as a bisu fan i must admit that from an objective point of view bisu and jaedong both possess about the same amount of "greatness".

Stratos_speAr

United States6959 Posts

July 16 2009 16:19 GMT

#50

On July 17 2009 01:13 Black Gun wrote:
jaedong and bisu both dont consistently dominate each other, so neither of them can be a bonjwa. and even as a bisu fan i must admit that from an objective point of view bisu and jaedong both possess about the same amount of "greatness".

It's not necessarily on their record vs. each other. It's easy to see that Jaedong is better overall - he's done better in the individual leagues, and there's no doubt to that. And don't give me this "curse" BS and all this crap about "map dependencies" because at the end of the day it's the man that is playing better that walks away from a BOx match. Neither of them are Bonjwas, but Bisu has no chance to be now, and JD is the only one with a chance. He may be able to do it, but he needs to keep his form up and continue dominating.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 16 2009 16:25 GMT

#51

On July 17 2009 01:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
It's not necessarily on their record vs. each other. It's easy to see that Jaedong is better overall - he's done better in the individual leagues, and there's no doubt to that. And don't give me this "curse" BS and all this crap about "map dependencies" because at the end of the day it's the man that is playing better that walks away from a BOx match. Neither of them are Bonjwas, but Bisu has no chance to be now, and JD is the only one with a chance. He may be able to do it, but he needs to keep his form up and continue dominating.

He's not dominating right now even. He's doing better than anyone else, but not by a wide enough margin for the term "dominating" to be appropriate.

sung_moon

United States10110 Posts

July 16 2009 16:29 GMT

#52

as far as im concerned the last bonjwa was savior

Railz

United States1449 Posts

July 16 2009 16:37 GMT

#53

First off, Bisu wasn't a Bonjwa. He was on a 3 month streak, hardly bonjwa. Bonjwa's winning streaks have to be linked or else Julyzerg would be considered a Bonjwa. Second off, Fantasy has been better then Flash for quite some time now.

vx70GTOJudgexv

United States3161 Posts

July 16 2009 16:43 GMT

#54

You know what's a real shame about this thread?

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Spoiler] +

He never took into account that Iris is going to rape the piss out of Bisu

Clow

Brazil880 Posts

July 16 2009 16:50 GMT

#55

Didn't the 'Bisu Bonjwa' thing get knocked out already? To be a bonjwa you have to be virtually invencible for a certain amount of time, isn't it? Even if he gets an OSL win...

Black Gun

Germany4482 Posts

July 16 2009 17:11 GMT

#56

On July 17 2009 01:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
You know what's a real shame about this thread?

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Spoiler] +

He never took into account that Iris is going to rape the piss out of Bisu

lol? bisu can practice with fantasy, pretty much the strongest tvp player out there right now. i really dont see bisu being defeated by iris. im rather afraid of zergs as the zvp metagame seems to be shifted quite far towards z atm.

jeddus

United States832 Posts

July 16 2009 17:20 GMT

#57

Still remember that while Savior was destroying everyone in the MSL a few years back, he still uberly failed in the OSL, getting stuck in prelims and survivor stages for quite a while. Everyone still considered him bonjwa though cause he was destroying everything in MSL.

Yeah, but what we remember is that he did eventually take the gold in OSL towards the end of his dominance.
And at the same time he looked scary in the superfights in a couple of ways:

1) He was number one and killed Boxer, which was expected, in the hyped Superfight.
His win was expected, but the fact the match took place was a testimony to his prowess.
(poor boxer. I was so sad.)

2) NaDa, whose nuts I was hanging onto so tightly, ended up falling in the Superfight 3 (I think) and in the OSL to Savior.
(It was a good thing he did get the revenge though in the Masters.)

3) Savior all-killed the Superfight 'Ace' tournament basically.

It was all happening so fast and almost congruent.
He had trashed MSL, qualified and won OSL, and won those special exhibitions.

True though, there was a time when he couldn't take OSL, but there was also a time when he was in the finals and was winning.