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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On July 17 2009 06:08 SilverskY wrote: God I am so sick of these threads... On July 16 2009 23:27 Itachii wrote: god, when these pointless bonjwa discussions will end | ||
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
On July 17 2009 07:06 ForTenPoints wrote: lol Go.go, Hwasin and Zero vs. Flash, Effort and Yarnc....I take the latter three any day, only a blind Bisu fanboy would say that Jaedong's group is way easier. I think it's good that starcraft finishes with no true bonjwa...shows how the game evolved to a state where the top players are constantly bringing each other down...and no one can be truly dominant. Bisu was in the former group so you are kinda contradicting yourself unless I'm misunderstanding you "taking" them.. | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On July 17 2009 07:06 ForTenPoints wrote: lol Go.go, Hwasin and Zero vs. Flash, Effort and Yarnc....I take the latter three any day, only a blind Bisu fanboy would say that Jaedong's group is way easier. I think it's good that starcraft finishes with no true bonjwa...shows how the game evolved to a state where the top players are constantly bringing each other down...and no one can be truly dominant. It's not just who the players are, it's how Bisu/Jaedong would do vs his set of opponents. Bisu had to play go.go on Return of the King which he probably thought was imba therefore did stupid shit, and Zero's ZvP is seriously ridiculous; who would have thought of queens? Plus Zero had already denied Bisu a chance in Lost Saga MSL so I don't get why you would think he's an easy opponent for Bisu. Jaedong, however, had 2 ZvZs which is really easy for him, plus Flash was being really really bad vs Z in that series; did you see how easily he lost? I think Bisu would have done way better if he had a Flash Effort and Yarnc group. Yarnc is sub 50% ZvP (1-3 vs bisu), and Bisu is also 3-0 against Effort. Bisu also played a lot of games vs Flash so he should be familiar with him and his style, and if he played like he did in GOM then he should be able to beat flash again. I would be more surprised if Bisu didn't make out of a Flash Effort and Yarnc group. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On July 16 2009 22:38 Scorch wrote: Bisu and Jaedong would both be bonjwas if it weren't for the existence of the respective other. this man speaks the truth | ||
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PrAsty
Canada21 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
bonjwa = (1)OSL+(3)MSL like July has a golden mouse but isn't bonjwa (isn't even in heritage league) but flash has 2 titles and he is in the race for the title? okay... if the OP didn't have a T1 badge on and if Bisu didn't have such a large number of fanboys, i might have been a bit more convinced. until Bisu wins his OSL, he's not a bonjwa. | ||
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aznanimedude
United States199 Posts
 you guys made a flash next bonjwa thread what happendthen a OMFG JAEDONG IS IMBA BONJWA and look waht happened way to jinx and screw the guy over  | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 17 2009 08:31 redtooth wrote: because bonjwa was so debatable didn't we agree that: bonjwa = (1)OSL+(3)MSL like July has a golden mouse but isn't bonjwa (isn't even in heritage league) but flash has 2 titles and he is in the race for the title? okay... if the OP didn't have a T1 badge on and if Bisu didn't have such a large number of fanboys, i might have been a bit more convinced. until Bisu wins his OSL, he's not a bonjwa. By your logic, Boxer wouldn't qualify as a Bonjwa, which would be disgustingly false. It doesn't matter if Bisu wins this MSL and the next OSL, his dominance has been too fractured -- after his loss to Mind and not even making it to the finals of the next MSL, people didn't even consider him the top of his race, much less of the world. The only person who's got a chance is Jaedong. A lot of people will say Bonjwa if he pulls a Boxer + nada (golden mouse, back to back OSLs), and it'll be hard to argue if he also pulls a Nal_Ra (OSL and MSL win in the same season). These are major ifs, so I don't think we can ever count on someone going bonjwa for quite some time. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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ReCharge
Philippines505 Posts
Mock My Words! He will show you what it REALLY means to be a  Bonjwa | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
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Batibot
Philippines348 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
It's still flash jaedong bisu stork. | ||
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ForSC2
United States580 Posts
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piratebay
United States399 Posts
*edit* not to mention, he isn't a clear standout above the rest of the crowd. he just got knocked out of the osl in one of the easiest brackets, of his making again. is he the favorite in the MSL when jaedong is still alive and kicking? hell no. plus, i dont doubt one of the dark horses knocking him out before he even reaches the finals. u aint a bonjwa till u honestly know in your heart, no matter who this guy goes up against, he comes out victorious. whether it be a 4 pool rush, proxy bunker rushes, proxy dual gates, nething. it doesn't matter. (check savior in his prime and his invinciblity to cheese) but bisu... if he faces flash, jaedong, stork, fantasy, effort or by.hero, it's a coin toss who will come out on top. | ||
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