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jimminy_kriket
Canada5500 Posts
Maria_kates vs leeseul both A level | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 10 2009 00:49 unk. wrote: i believe that arguing in internet is like winning a special olympics. even if you will manage to win you are still retarded, so i am avoiding talking with guys like you, therefore there is no point in my speech, i am just having fun watching your reaction. if you don't get it - that is your own problems. Talking about the vast majority of communication: besides the fact you don't have any numbers behind your words while i am, the vast majority is in some kind of "iccup language", like "D/D+msg me". p.s. ah and feel free to fix my spelling//grammar, you want to show that you are smart so much that missed the point of this dialog =) He doesn't need specific numbers because it's quite evident that the majority of people that file complaints on Iccup do so in two languages... Korean and English. This means you should look for 3 types of admins specifically. Those who can speak both Korean and English fluently (obviously preferred), those who can speak very fluent English, and those who can speak very fluent Korean. The problem with language translations is that some things get missed and you get unreasonable banning for a misunderstanding. A person who has very scratchy English or Korean shouldn't be handling complaints from a language they won't get the full meaning from. English admins should stick with English complains, Korean admins stick with Korean ones. The ones that can do both serve as the much needed bridge. Iccup is the one server that's being played like it is on SC so I can't imagine it would be that difficult to find the people to do this. You guys are reasonably professional and you run a very good organization... just know that you are attempting to communicate predominantly to two different languages and it just needs to be accounted for. | ||
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
im sure many player in iccup would be happy if you give them the chance . | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
On May 10 2009 00:32 iamtt1 wrote: iccup main admin = unk and yelloant, yello is awesome but cheloman is just.. ^-^ Just what?. Just because I ban your hacker account TT1 following the rules?. Come on. | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
On May 11 2009 03:38 PaeZ wrote: Cheloman is pretty active, well at least he banned a couple of friends because they complained as well, maybe someone can link this thread to him so that he can at least know wtf is going on, Iccup NEEDS programers and Top korean amateurs, losing them would be stupid and irresponsible. Language barrier? hire people that can help... and unk STOP damnit -_-. I just thinking when you will shut your mouth up mate. Unbeliveble that you are claiming all the fucking time about why the admins are following the rules, in the same way that you think they are abusing. I would like to hear complains about the rules, no about why the admins FOLLOW that rules. Bring me ideas about adjust to rules and we will discuss in our private forums. But please, stop cry. | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
On May 09 2009 23:18 GTR wrote: if only the administration of PGT remained..... WHAT? iccup has the same leaders than PGTour. The difference is that iccup we have about 10x more games and 20x more complaints and about 1/2x admins working for free. The tech crew works about 50x more than PGTour, and you have a lot better gamming experience. Please, stop compare it. I would like to see what would happen if PGTour gets about 400 complaints daily as iccup has. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On May 11 2009 20:10 LG)cheloman wrote: WHAT? iccup has the same leaders than PGTour. The difference is that iccup we have about 10x more games and 20x more complaints and about 1/2x admins working for free. The tech crew works about 50x more than PGTour, and you have a lot better gamming experience. Please, stop compare it. I would like to see what would happen if PGTour gets about 400 complaints daily as iccup has. theyd reply 'sorry this game was marked as hack i cant do anything about it' 400 times? | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On May 11 2009 21:28 ret wrote: romad plz msn.. i have so many reps that need checked out X.X Ret's replays are going to do for hotkeys what the Rosetta Stone did for hieroglyphics! | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On May 11 2009 20:00 LG)cheloman wrote: I just thinking when you will shut your mouth up mate. Unbeliveble that you are claiming all the fucking time about why the admins are following the rules, in the same way that you think they are abusing. I would like to hear complains about the rules, no about why the admins FOLLOW that rules. Bring me ideas about adjust to rules and we will discuss in our private forums. But please, stop cry. I don't know why everyone's flaming cheloman here. Let's cool down this situation a bit. Cheloman realizes the rules aren't optimal, but till they're changed he has to strictly follow them. Cheloman, you were asking for ideas. Did you read the following (imo, very good) idea: On May 11 2009 03:27 eXigent. wrote: They should change the rule from Games against another player, to points gained from another player. This would really balance things out for the top players who play 20-30 games against each other and go 15-15 or something close to that. It would also prevent people from cheating at lower ranks vs another player, and would probably be a better alternative. Just for example: D/D+ you cannot take more than 780 pts from 1 player (6 games straight wins) C-/C/C+ you cannot take more than 1170 pts from 1 player (9 games straight wins) B-/B/B+ you cannot take more than 1560 pts from 1 player (12 games straight wins) A- and up you cannot take more than 1950 pts from 1 player (15 straight wins) anyway, with that system, A/A+ players could play each other 30 times, and 1 player would only gain 1000 pts, which would still be legal. This would solve all the problems imo. | ||
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
dldmdtkd = fbh lovesjh = suny[fou] | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
@ Idra: The games "marked as hack" are games that our launcher can´t handle it, by x reason. Hacks, connection problems, etc. With this filter, we avoid to solve about 30 complaints daily, which they need to be hard investigated. Unfair: Obviously.The system cant be perfect when it works with the free contribution of people inside this community. Maybe if they were payed, we could push them to solve every single complaint. But, sadly, is not the case. With no more than 6 admins, we have to solve 400 complaints. None can do it. Honestly, we dont want to be totally fair. We want to be as fair as our resources let us do it. Everything what we do, is for gamers, for the good of this game, of this ladder. We don´t ignore complaints just because you are ugly (yeah, we could!), but we do it to solve more complaints and give a real answer. Most of time, games marked as hacks, requires that we have to trus in the word of complainer: Word against word. (Not always, but a lot of time). Belive me, give me 20 admins, or the enough number so they only need to spend 2 hs daily, and you will have all your complaints solved, so you can earn your very-important-to-keep-living 100 pts. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28630 Posts
 is that message also written in korean for koreans tho? | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On May 11 2009 22:50 LG)cheloman wrote: Belive me, give me 20 admins, or the enough number so they only need to spend 2 hs daily, and you will have all your complaints solved, so you can earn your very-important-to-keep-living 100 pts. ya mock your player base for caring about your ladder pretty good idea | ||
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
On May 09 2009 12:07 zimp wrote: looks like KT.MGW)Notice reps of him(?): http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/11833 http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/18921 http://www.ygosu.com/?m=replay&idx=43212 one more rep of NamGiDong. ![[image loading]](http://www.repdepot.net/img/thumbs/12430.jpg) can anyone confirm? +roMAD have you checked all the reps i sent? forum and pm. if classic and fbh nice job! its so misleading cause he didn't spam 5 that much. | ||
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
its really not a good way to get suggestions when you call people fucking idiots and mock your player base btw | ||
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LG)cheloman
Argentina159 Posts
And about the "mock", is the way I considerer the importance that some people gives to 100 pts lost it by an admin decision, (fair or unfair), and forget everything else, well done by the same staff. Seems that everyone else its allowed to talk shit about my staff and because I mock of 100 pts, someone feels offended... Well... enough time here. Keep on the topic. Forget this discussion. | ||
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