On April 20 2009 18:30 jimminy_kriket wrote: if anyone has time could someone try and get a replay of qnwkehltpdy? just like go down his match list and look for people he played terran vs then msg them on icc if their online. id be super happy if someone could actually do this.
On April 20 2009 18:30 jimminy_kriket wrote: if anyone has time could someone try and get a replay of qnwkehltpdy? just like go down his match list and look for people he played terran vs then msg them on icc if their online. id be super happy if someone could actually do this.
thanks
I have , he played terran vs me, dunno if it is his race.
TheStc started to play on acc sumadream, went to a-, played some there, then fell back to B and transferred to [sumadream], where he reached around 8500. Then he transferred to acc sumadreom (starts from around 8500). And a new player started to play on that account. Who might be: sumadreom = [SeoulMilk] = asl-equid.suma = go.go[gsp] I know romad said before that sumadreom is not go.go but i made a little research.
The newest game i found of go.go is against flash but even that one is 1 year old (second in the pic) and it's a tvt while the others are tvp so consider that. You can see hotkeys and spamming matching a LOT 1 cc 2 units 3 barracks->cc 4 5 6 7 fact in all replays. I pointed out some specialties which might seem small but very important. Firstly 2 spam in the beginning is very simiral and secondly there is a little gap after assigning hotkey n5 to second factory. Then a little spam and then sometimes another gap in both 4-5spam. You can actually notice this in a lot of his replays (although not all, however most i found were like from 2006). Now against we have that he doesnt reassign 4-5 (which happened not always but usually), he uses first 8-9 than 0 for scan while he used to use 9-0 at first. But i think these might have changed since old replay or didn't play serious enough to use it like he usually does. Romad's problem might have been that in the asl-equid.suma replay he used 1 and 3 hotkey for units too. But if you go through his replays you can find that he did that occasionally before too. Alright not this many, but what if he used this hotkey setup for only that build before? He had units at 3 different places (timing rush against TellMeWhy]ex[, where he actually loses but he totally stops playing at the end i don't know if he was annoyed or he had to go away).
Where he wins in a macro game (haha he stops playing sometimes, maybe eating, you can see his apm goes down no hotkeys only for units) and he puts command centers next to the remaining protoss nexuses and main!! go.go is famous for doing this! like in this video (end):
And also a rep vs holy]diver where if you remember the chat sumadreom said he is hwasin from stx what is obviously not true, but where did thestc play? At STX. So since we know sumadream because of his famous rep pack, for example go.go might tried to make us think that they use a shared acc at stx to remain unknown which was the purpose of the transfer as he didn't want to ruin up his good stat with [SeoulMilk]. Or he didnt understand the question lol. Or said some random answer. Nevermind.
You can also see in the replays that SeoulMilk used the same (a bit unique) walling (2nd supply other position so that marine can go out) at destination 6oclock 2 times and sumadreom used it too! and: [Seoulmilk] and [sumadream] played 3 offrace games vs each other (zvp etc) which might mean they're friends because they rarely offraced in other game. And not long after those games [sumadream] transferred to sumadreom. So sumadreom probably is [Seoulmilk].
so another probable proof that it's the same player.
I think however that the major proofs are the similarity of the basic hotkey usage and building command centers.
What do you guys think?
i also put replay of sumadreambabo and sumadreem in the pack who are not sumadream or sumadreom either (hotkeys totally different).
Hyun has always been very good outside of live games, and he's starting to win more in leagues/live matches (2-0ed Mind in MSL Offlines) he's obviously decent for a progamer and that translates to being high on iccup ladder.
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
I would really love to see if Hyun is as good as Jaedong, or even better.
Wait, scrap that. I want to watch some of his FPVODs or replays >___>
I mean, how can the difference between playing off-the-air and playing on-air be so big? Seriously.. =.="
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
Are these like the claims that magma is like 70% winrate vs flash and jaedong in practice games and is offline bonjwa?
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
I would really love to see if Hyun is as good as Jaedong, or even better.
Wait, scrap that. I want to watch some of his FPVODs or replays >___>
I mean, how can the difference between playing off-the-air and playing on-air be so big? Seriously.. =.="
Well i mean there is this part where youre playing infront of the entire country and then playing infront of your friends.
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
Are these like the claims that magma is like 70% winrate vs flash and jaedong in practice games and is offline bonjwa?
Wtf seriously?
And I thought Jangbi raping Stork everywhere during practice (before he started to explode like mad) was pretty cool.
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
I would really love to see if Hyun is as good as Jaedong, or even better.
Wait, scrap that. I want to watch some of his FPVODs or replays >___>
I mean, how can the difference between playing off-the-air and playing on-air be so big? Seriously.. =.="
Well i mean there is this part where youre playing infront of the entire country and then playing infront of your friends.
Yeah, but Hyun has been like playing for 2 years already?
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
Are these like the claims that magma is like 70% winrate vs flash and jaedong in practice games and is offline bonjwa?
Wtf seriously?
And I thought Jangbi raping Stork everywhere during practice (before he started to explode like mad) was pretty cool.
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
I would really love to see if Hyun is as good as Jaedong, or even better.
Wait, scrap that. I want to watch some of his FPVODs or replays >___>
I mean, how can the difference between playing off-the-air and playing on-air be so big? Seriously.. =.="
Well i mean there is this part where youre playing infront of the entire country and then playing infront of your friends.
Yeah, but Hyun has been like playing for 2 years already?
Idk for sure but there’s been a few times where people have said magmas a beast, just gets really nervous on TV, iirc during last msl group selection he said he allkilled khan and skt in practice games
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
Are these like the claims that magma is like 70% winrate vs flash and jaedong in practice games and is offline bonjwa?
Wtf seriously?
And I thought Jangbi raping Stork everywhere during practice (before he started to explode like mad) was pretty cool.
On April 26 2009 00:43 arb wrote:
On April 26 2009 00:32 konadora wrote:
On April 25 2009 22:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yyyyyyyep hyun is one of the best players around but he plays like ass on tv and his preparation aint so good
if you run into him on a ladder he will destroy you even if you're flash on tv
I would really love to see if Hyun is as good as Jaedong, or even better.
Wait, scrap that. I want to watch some of his FPVODs or replays >___>
I mean, how can the difference between playing off-the-air and playing on-air be so big? Seriously.. =.="
Well i mean there is this part where youre playing infront of the entire country and then playing infront of your friends.
Yeah, but Hyun has been like playing for 2 years already?
Idk for sure but there’s been a few times where people have said magmas a beast, just gets really nervous on TV, iirc during last msl group selection he said he allkilled khan and skt in practice games
Oh wow, wonder why he retir-
Wait, he must have been embarrassed after getting eliminated when he called the 6 dragons 'acorns'.
On April 24 2009 12:54 zimp wrote: Ok my theory based upon reps and account points:
TheStc started to play on acc sumadream, went to a-, played some there, then fell back to B and transferred to [sumadream], where he reached around 8500. Then he transferred to acc sumadreom (starts from around 8500). And a new player started to play on that account. Who might be: sumadreom = [SeoulMilk] = asl-equid.suma = go.go[gsp] I know romad said before that sumadreom is not go.go but i made a little research.
The newest game i found of go.go is against flash but even that one is 1 year old (second in the pic) and it's a tvt while the others are tvp so consider that. You can see hotkeys and spamming matching a LOT 1 cc 2 units 3 barracks->cc 4 5 6 7 fact in all replays. I pointed out some specialties which might seem small but very important. Firstly 2 spam in the beginning is very simiral and secondly there is a little gap after assigning hotkey n5 to second factory. Then a little spam and then sometimes another gap in both 4-5spam. You can actually notice this in a lot of his replays (although not all, however most i found were like from 2006). Now against we have that he doesnt reassign 4-5 (which happened not always but usually), he uses first 8-9 than 0 for scan while he used to use 9-0 at first. But i think these might have changed since old replay or didn't play serious enough to use it like he usually does. Romad's problem might have been that in the asl-equid.suma replay he used 1 and 3 hotkey for units too. But if you go through his replays you can find that he did that occasionally before too. Alright not this many, but what if he used this hotkey setup for only that build before? He had units at 3 different places (timing rush against TellMeWhy]ex[, where he actually loses but he totally stops playing at the end i don't know if he was annoyed or he had to go away).
Where he wins in a macro game (haha he stops playing sometimes, maybe eating, you can see his apm goes down no hotkeys only for units) and he puts command centers next to the remaining protoss nexuses and main!! go.go is famous for doing this! like in this video (end):
And also a rep vs holy]diver where if you remember the chat sumadreom said he is hwasin from stx what is obviously not true, but where did thestc play? At STX. So since we know sumadream because of his famous rep pack, for example go.go might tried to make us think that they use a shared acc at stx to remain unknown which was the purpose of the transfer as he didn't want to ruin up his good stat with [SeoulMilk]. Or he didnt understand the question lol. Or said some random answer. Nevermind.
You can also see in the replays that SeoulMilk used the same (a bit unique) walling (2nd supply other position so that marine can go out) at destination 6oclock 2 times and sumadreom used it too! and: [Seoulmilk] and [sumadream] played 3 offrace games vs each other (zvp etc) which might mean they're friends because they rarely offraced in other game. And not long after those games [sumadream] transferred to sumadreom. So sumadreom probably is [Seoulmilk].
so another probable proof that it's the same player.
I think however that the major proofs are the similarity of the basic hotkey usage and building command centers.
What do you guys think?
i also put replay of sumadreambabo and sumadreem in the pack who are not sumadream or sumadreom either (hotkeys totally different).
gogo assigns his comsats on 0,9 and he doesn't use 1 on units (except for TvZ). Also seoulmilk has different spam in that long replay. imo it's enough to say that it's not gogo
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